How much of Pakistani culture is Indian?

[Sashan]

@ ajtr

There are flags of both india and Pakistan with your username

Are you Muslim or a hindu b***h ??

What a dimwitted question. Hope mods are watching.

 

[vsdoc]

Whats that..........?

A female dog.

Cahnge your flag please.

 

[Don Jaguar]

I dont think there was anything particularly proud in fighting somebody else's war under orders from foreign masters.

There was nothing to be proud of in saying Ji Alanpanah and giving your life to some Afghan or Turco-Mongol..

Muslim saints were killed by hindus before muslim invasion we needed protection and we got it.

But in general invaders were there for their greater goal. Islam was just one point.

 

[Bhairava]

Muslim saints were killed by hindus before muslim invasion we needed protection and we got it.

But in general invaders were there for their greater goal. Islam was just one point.

Is this the justification you guys invent for working under foreign invaders ?

But I agree with you - the invaders were here for many purposes - looting, killing, rapine and also for spreading Islam.

 

[INDIC]

Pakistani culture is the copy of India culture.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Your argument that Islam is about arab culture does not hold water. Only one-eighth of the muslim population worldwide is Arab. And there is not much historical evidence to support your assertion that islam was spread by force in the sub-continent.
That is because Islam is a global religion and has attracted followers and converts from all over the world. Islam is compatiable with every culture and land.
Hinduism is more of a regional religion and has not attracted followers anywhere outside the sub-continent with the only exception of hare krishnas, who are very small in number. Throughout history, people have always converted out of hinduism and hinduism shares similarities with paganism.

Almost the entire history that the hindus claim as their own happened in the land called Pakistan. The Indus valley civilization almost in it's entirety was in Pakistan.

It pains the hindus when they see that the land of such historical and cultural significance to them is now in muslim hands FOREVER. Now hindus are less than 2% of Pakistan's population and in a few more decades there will be no trace of hinduism left in Pakistan!!

One more ignorant expert. Can you explain the the Upanishads, the Puranas, and the epics in terms of their origins in what is now Pakistan? Or the Buddha and the sites of his preaching? Or Mahavira? Do you also believe that the Sungas, Kharavela, the Satavahanas, the Guptas, Lalitaditya, the Maukharis, the Vakatakas, the Chalukyas, their successors the Hoysalas, the Kakatiyas, the Yadavas, and the Kalachuri, the Rastrakutas, the Gurjara-Pratiharas, the Palas, the Senas, and the Chola, the Pallava before them, the Pandyas, the Cheras were relics of Pakistani history? Has Pakistan got anything to do with Patanjali? or with ANY of this list?

Aryabhata
Bhaskara I
Brahmagupta
Mahavira
Pavuluri Mallana
Varahamihira
Shridhara
Bhaskara II
Hemachandra
Pingala
Panini

Or do you claim any of these authors?

Shudraka
Bhasa
Asvaghosha
Kalidasa
Dandin
Sriharsha

Or oF these in the passage below? Did you know that the One Thousand Nights and One Night was modeled on this style. Of a story within a story within a story? Or that Aesop's Fables, the Adventures of Reynard, were derived from the Panchatantra?

The two most important collections are Panchatantra and Hitopadesha; originally intended as manuals for the instruction of kings in domestic and foreign policy, they belong to the class of literature which the Hindus call nīti-śāstra, or "Science of Political Ethics".
Other notable prose works include a collection of pretty and ingenious fairy tales, with a highly Oriental colouring, the Vetāla-panchaviṃśati or "Twenty-five Tales of the Vetāla" (a demon supposed to occupy corpses), the Siṃhāsana-dvātriṃçikā or "Thirty-two Stories of the Lion-seat" (i.e. throne), which also goes by the name of Vikrama-charita, or "Adventures of Vikrama" and the Śuka-saptati, or "Seventy Stories of a Parrot". These three collections of fairy tales are all written in prose and are comparatively short.
Somadeva's Kathā-sarit-sāgara or "Ocean of Rivers of Stories" is a work of special importance: composed in verse and of very considerable length, it contains more than 22,000 shlokas, equal to nearly one-fourth of the Mahābhārata. Like Kshemendra's Brhatkathamanjari and Budhasvamin's Bṛhatkathāślokasaṃgraha, it derives from Gunadhya's Brihatkatha.

 

[Don Jaguar]

werent the kings before mughals muslim-slave dynasty,lodhi,etc.

Yes it was but we got what we wanted their internal fight doesn't matter.

So............?

He demanded a name of any king from present day Pakistan who ruled india i gave him two.

 

[ajtr]

Muslim saints were killed by hindus before muslim invasion we needed protection and we got it.

But in general invaders were there for their greater goal. Islam was just one point.

This is what called manufactured rage.Happened during burma riots right here on pdf.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Yes you are right.

Hinduism is an ancient Pakistani religion.

How do you come to that conclusion? All the texts, all the scriptures were written on the slopes of the Himalayas, and the banks of the Ganges. Is that now part of Pakistan?

 

[Don Jaguar]

Is this the justification you guys invent for working under foreign invaders ?

Sort of.

But I agree with you - the invaders were here for many purposes - looting, killing, rapine and also for spreading Islam.

Expanding empire their greater goal, saints got a platform lucky for us.

Looting : No way they made india the biggest economy of their time.

Raping : Not needed they got lots of harems.

 

[KRAIT]

One more ignorant expert. Can you explain the the Upanishads, the Puranas, and the epics in terms of their origins in what is now Pakistan? Or the Buddha and the sites of his preaching? Or Mahavira? Do you also believe that the Sungas, Kharavela, the Satavahanas, the Guptas, Lalitaditya, the Maukharis, the Vakatakas, the Chalukyas, their successors the Hoysalas, the Kakatiyas, the Yadavas, and the Kalachuri, the Rastrakutas, the Gurjara-Pratiharas, the Palas, the Senas, and the Chola, the Pallava before them, the Pandyas, the Cheras were relics of Pakistani history? Has Pakistan got anything to do with Patanjali? or with ANY of this list?

Or do you claim any of these authors? Shudraka Bhasa Asvaghosha Kalidasa Dandin
Sriharsha

Or oF these in the passage below? Did you know that the One Thousand Nights and One Night was modeled on this style. Of a story within a story within a story? Or that Aesop's Fables, the Adventures of Reynard, were derived from the Panchatantra?

Identity crisis takes a toll Joe Sir. Hindus population decreasing in Pakistan is something they feel proud of. The whole world knows about Upanishads and Vedas but for some it doesn't matter. They call themselves IVC holder, Muslims that ruled India and what not.

Ask any Arab or Persian and they can answer what the reality is. In this land of India, Jainism and most importantly Buddhism flourished.

 

[ajtr]

Yes it was but we got what we wanted their internal fight doesn't matter.

Who were "we" and who were "they"

He demanded a name of any king from present day Pakistan who ruled india i gave him two.

but pakistan istelf was india then.........big deal..........

 

[Joe Shearer]

Your argument that Islam is about arab culture does not hold water. Only one-eighth of the muslim population worldwide is Arab. And there is not much historical evidence to support your assertion that islam was spread by force in the sub-continent.
That is because Islam is a global religion and has attracted followers and converts from all over the world. Islam is compatiable with every culture and land.
Hinduism is more of a regional religion and has not attracted followers anywhere outside the sub-continent with the only exception of hare krishnas, who are very small in number. Throughout history, people have always converted out of hinduism and hinduism shares similarities with paganism.

Almost the entire history that the hindus claim as their own happened in the land called Pakistan. The Indus valley civilization almost in it's entirety was in Pakistan.

It pains the hindus when they see that the land of such historical and cultural significance to them is now in muslim hands FOREVER. Now hindus are less than 2% of Pakistan's population and in a few more decades there will be no trace of hinduism left in Pakistan!!

It should pain the Pakistanis more considering that this represents a gross betrayal of the promises and commitments made by Jinnah to the minorities at the time of forming Pakistan.

 

[Don Jaguar]

How do you come to that conclusion? All the texts, all the scriptures were written on the slopes of the Himalayas, and the banks of the Ganges. Is that now part of Pakistan?

And some of your fellows separating IVC from hinduism see previous pages.

DesertFox explained this very properly but i am unable to find that thread.

 

[KRAIT]

Sort of.
Expanding empire their greater goal, saints got a platform lucky for us.
Looting : No way they made india the biggest economy of their time
Raping : Not needed they got lots of harems.

They didn't made India the biggest economy. India was already before the invasion. They just looted and took it under their control.

BTW $ 20 billion worth treasure was found in Southern temple, which remained safe from Muslim invaders and Britishers. Its 5 times your defense budget. So they came for the wealth of this Indian subcontinent not that they brought wealth along with them,

Raping: Well we all know who were the culprit. It was always a mean to convert or create new generation of their blood just like 71 war. Remember the reason behind it.