How Modi's quiet, firm diplomacy with Mohan Bhagwat is reining in RSS

[Prometheus]

Already started discriminating. Why should a convert necessarily be any worse than you? If they have come freely, you must respect their choice.

freely yes ..............but with bribes???

let me tell you mate a story of a guy who lives near my home.........he converted to christianity when he was offered that all his debts will be payed and he will be given a job in the chruch ............and he did .......converted all his family ......got lots of money from Chruch ..........fine with the locals ....his choice what we can say ....

now RSS is offering him money convert back .......and he probably do it again ...........and spend all money on drugs "again"

this is what happening

What are you talking about ?
Who told you the Christians vote for Badal ?
I have got some news for Mr."Punjab politcs expert"
Nothing could further be from truth.
Christian vote en masse for Congress everytime, so much so that Congress has never lost a general election from Ludhiana EVER.

lol...............the biggest percentage of Christians is in Gurdaspur ( my city) .........Badal even fielded a christain candidate here once.............

no dout many christian organisations are pro - congress.............but majority chooses Badal in gurdaspur........

and go throu my post again.................i said majority of these ghar wapsi is happening in my area...................not in ludhiana.

and thanks for the title of Mr. Punjab politics expert"

once a Bhakt named "JHA" here wanted to became expert in punjab affairs and told me to stfu because his JAITLEY has won from amritsar..........

These Bhakts are so cute and confused ...........and try to become expert in everything..............u can see Mr."JHA " giving his expert opinions on everything..........he is a expert ...........and bhakts will clap on his expert opinions

 

[Bombermanx1]

Badal is upset because Christians are his vote bank ........

Sikhism is a free religion ................just now when SGPC tried to hire preachers when RSS was doing "THEIR" work ......they got negative reactions from sikh organisations worldwide...........Actually sikhism does not seek converts or reconverts .....anyone can come and go ....it doesnot matter............as per sikh rahit maryada ....sikhs are not supposed to do anything except if the conversions are done forcefully ............sikhs are not supposed to get upset and "problem" with that.
I am from the region where RSS is doing ghar wapsi of chritians ........i tell you missionaries here are very active..............new chruches are coming up in every locality .....a signal of growing number of christains in my city.......but whatever......lets not go haywire on anything......those who left Sikhism probably went for money or something else........and now RSS is paying them again money .....to do ghar wapsi........now what kinda sikhs they will be ??? #justasking




whatever helps you sleep at night

Modi is not controlled by remote.............actually RSS got many of its people elected as MP and posted at high levels in BJP....to directly press switches of MODI without a remote

Well Badal needs to worry more about his duty to his religion than his vote bank.
Of course it is a free religion just like all Sanatana dharma and Indic faiths.
This not supposed to do anything nonsense is what is the main drawbacks of all Indic faiths,even God doesn't help those who don't help themselves,You lost your holy shrine in Nankana sahib, you were driven out from Pakistan and even now many come for asylum why because you didnt do anything while others were steadily chipping away at your religion and making you a minority.
This sort of attitude needs to be shed and a proactive approach needs to be taken.
Its all about Attrition in Religion now.
Yesterday you were a majority in Punjab,today you are still,Tomorrow you will be a Minority in Punjab, at the rate the christian conversions and churches are popping up as you say,tomorrow you will be forced to leave your bastion and look elsewhere, this is the fate of those who don't do anything.

 

[Prometheus]

Well Badal needs to worry more about his duty to his religion than his vote bank.
Of course it is a free religion just like all Sanatana dharma and Indic faiths.
This not supposed to do anything nonsense is what is the main drawbacks of all Indic faiths,even God doesn't help those who don't help themselves,You lost your holy shrine in Nankana sahib, you were driven out from Pakistan and even now many come for asylum why because you didnt do anything while others were steadily chipping away at your religion and making you a minority.
This sort of attitude needs to be shed and a proactive approach needs to be taken.
Its all about Attrition in Religion now.
Yesterday you were a majority in Punjab,today you are still,Tomorrow you will be a Minority in Punjab, at the rate the christian conversions and churches are popping up as you say,tomorrow you will be forced to leave your bastion and look elsewhere, this is the fate of those who don't do anything.

dont u worry mate............Sikhs has been driven to extinction many times in its small history.

for you kind info - Sikhism is not part of snatan Dharma .

those who wishes to join are free to join............those who wishes to leave are free to leave.

one shall not leave principles declared in "SIKH RAHIT MARYADA" ....just to increase the number of Sikhs......Sikhism doesnot seek converts and doesnot believe in preaching its religion on others.........the reason why plan of SGPC to hire preachers in wake of ghar wapsi backfired by "RADICAL" as well non-radical organisations alike.

If people are leaving Sikhism , its there wish ................but there are few who are learning the Sikh Rahit maryada...........and that too a very orthodox one .....which even Punjabis dont follow.

here find a Punjab sikh...............

 

[Bombermanx1]

dont u worry mate............Sikhs has been driven to extinction many times in its small history.

for you kind info - Sikhism is not part of snatan Dharma .

those who wishes to join are free to join............those who wishes to leave are free to leave.

one shall not leave principles declared in "SIKH RAHIT MARYADA" ....just to increase the number of Sikhs......Sikhism doesnot seek converts and doesnot believe in preaching its religion on others.........the reason why plan of SGPC to hire preachers in wake of ghar wapsi backfired by "RADICAL" as well non-radical organisations alike.

If people are leaving Sikhism , its there wish ................but there are few who are learning the Sikh Rahit maryada...........and that too a very orthodox one .....which even Punjabis dont follow.

here find a Punjab sikh...............

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They been driven to extinction yes, but they fought back didn't they? or did you show the other cheek when slapped upon like Gandhi did?

Sikhism is dubbed as part of Sanatan Dharma along with all Indic faiths, because they share so many similarities that is why you see people consider and pray to your gurus etc.
While it's not the same in case of Abrahamic religions who we consider as Alien to this land.

It is unfortunate that SGPC faced flak for hiring preachers.

By posting a few White Amritadhari sikh pics won't change the fact that your population is diminishing.
and Christinaity has beset you in your place Punjab, it is only a matter of time, you will see more Christians than sikhs.Eventually, they will swallow you.
If you don't resist you risk losing your identity and everything you built ,against aggressive prosetlysing religions.Moral high grounds won't matter when you are the only one left alone,while others around you have been converted.
Look at the case of Buddhism.

 

[Prometheus]

They been driven to extinction yes, but they fought back didn't they? or did you show the other cheek when slapped upon like Gandhi did?

Sikhism is dubbed as part of Sanatan Dharma along with all Indic faiths, because they share so many similarities that is why you see people consider pray to your gurus etc.
While it's not the same in case of Abrahamic religions who we consider as Alien to this land.

It is unfortunate that SGPC faced flak for hiring preachers.

By posting a few White Amritadhari sikh pics won't change the fact that your population is diminishing.
and Christinaity has beset you in your place Punjab, it is only a matter of time, you will see more Christians than sikhs.Eventually, they will swallow you.
If you don't resist you risk losing your identity and everything you built ,against aggressive prosetlysing religions.Moral high grounds won't matter when you are the only one left alone,while others around you have been converted.
Look at the case of Buddhism.

doesnot matter...................real sikhs are already in minority in Punjab ............now idiots like me prevails in Punjab............and ofcourse not to mention a large some of drugies and people like Badals who are using religion for personal gains......they represent everything that is forbidden by SIKH RAHIT MARYADA" .........people are becoming followers of deras .........some are fighting with others on the name of religion............this is not sikhism....

Guru Gobind prohibited sikhs from using drugs / tobbacco..............how many punjabi sikhs follow him???....its better for them to leave Sikhism then doing something that is regarded as Blasphemy in Sikhism.

Repeating again...Sikhism is not part of Snatam dharma .....end of that discussion.

even Akal Thakt has been taken over by wrong people..............no one is to be blamed , but so called "SIKHS" are to be blamed................

and about that Picture mate........they are not amritdhari sikhs................they are just students in a local schools which is popular with Sikhs of non-Punjabi origin ...( a small Sikh acadamy where non-Punjabi sikhs send their children to learn values of Sikhism, which people of Punjab have forgotten).

Well Badal needs to worry more about his duty to his religion than his vote bank.
Of course it is a free religion just like all Sanatana dharma and Indic faiths.
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a nice article which sums up the condition in Gurdaspur / Amritsar preety well


Majha (Punjab) - A tale of Changing Faiths | SikhNet

most of the Ghar wapsi is done in Majha area not ludhiana ....as someone was saying here

and another thing......this website (SIKHNET) is run by a non-punjabi sikhs and mostly deals with issues of non-punjabi sikhs ( so there are a little more then few as u were saying mate)

 

[Bombermanx1]

doesnot matter...................real sikhs are already in minority in Punjab ............now idiots like me prevails in Punjab............and ofcourse not to mention a large some of drugies and people like Badals who are using religion for personal gains......they represent everything that is forbidden by SIKH RAHIT MARYADA" .........people are becoming followers of deras .........some are fighting with others on the name of religion............this is not sikhism....

Guru Gobind prohibited sikhs from using drugs / tobbacco..............how many punjabi sikhs follow him???....its better for them to leave Sikhism then doing something that is regarded as Blasphemy in Sikhism.

Repeating again...Sikhism is not part of Snatam dharma .....end of that discussion.

even Akal Thakt has been taken over by wrong people..............no one is to be blamed , but so called "SIKHS" are to be blamed................

and about that Picture mate........they are not amritdhari sikhs................they are just students in a local schools which is popular with Sikhs of non-Punjabi origin ...( a small Sikh acadamy where non-Punjabi sikhs send their children to learn values of Sikhism, which people of Punjab have forgotten).



a nice article which sums up the condition in Gurdaspur / Amritsar preety well


Majha (Punjab) - A tale of Changing Faiths | SikhNet

most of the Ghar wapsi is done in Majha area not ludhiana ....as someone was saying here

and another thing......this website (SIKHNET) is run by a non-punjabi sikhs and mostly deals with issues of non-punjabi sikhs ( so there are a little more then few as u were saying mate)

If you chose to distance yourself from Sanatana Dharma then so be it.
Likewise,If you want to close your eyes when the world around nay your house is burning then so be it,what can anyone do in such case.
you are blaming sikhs for disbanding their faith,while you are not doing anything to stop this and chose to be a mute spectator and do nothing about why this is happening and what should be done in this regard.
Nobody in the world cares about Yezidi plight, all Usa does is do routine bombings for namesake,nor are they worried about protecting some minority.
Same will be your fate if don't fight back.

 

[Prometheus]

If you chose to distance yourself from Sanatana Dharma then so be it.
Likewise,If you want to close your eyes when the world around nay your house is burning then so be it,what can anyone do in such case.
you are blaming sikhs for disbanding their faith,while you are not doing anything to stop this and chose to be a mute spectator and do nothing about why this is happening and what should be done in this regard.
Nobody in the world cares about Yezidi plight, all Usa does is do routine bombings for namesake,nor are they worried about protecting some minority.
Same will be your fate if don't fight back.

fight back against whom???? fight for what????

you know last time sikhs did "FIGHT" for sikhism they were labelled as "Khalistanis" .........they were killed in the national capital by the Govt.
but lets leave that topic for some other time..

I know why the conversions to christainity is happening in my city......its more of socio-economic thing .....rather then a religious thing........people of lower socio-economic status are lured by money etc to convert..........

Frankly I have lost the hope of "Rangla Punjab" coming back anytime soon back to my Punjab thanks to Badal -BJP combo.......all good in Punjab is getting destroyed. ......and when some sane youth and intellectuals tried to bring change .....they were labbeled as "AAPTARDS and ANti-national"

Sikhism is not going anywhere mate..........dont you worry..................if Bhuddism reduced in India.......it increased in other parts of the world........so Chill mate............young Sikhs are leaving Punjab at a fast rate then ever before.........even if anyone dont convert..........population of Sikhs is bound to decrease in Punjab ............just check last few census.......that will make my point clear............in my city alone .........a whole generation of people of my elder brother's age ...just transfered out of India.................

And why do u want me to fight against Chruches?????? are you recuiting for RSS ?????

 

[Bombermanx1]

fight back against whom???? fight for what????

you know last time sikhs did "FIGHT" for sikhism they were labelled as "Khalistanis" .........they were killed in the national capital by the Govt.
but lets leave that topic for some other time..

I know why the conversions to christainity is happening in my city......its more of socio-economic thing .....rather then a religious thing........people of lower socio-economic status are lured by money etc to convert..........

Frankly I have lost the hope of "Rangla Punjab" coming back anytime soon back to my Punjab thanks to Badal -BJP combo.......all good in Punjab is getting destroyed. ......and when some sane youth and intellectuals tried to bring change .....they were labbeled as "AAPTARDS and ANti-national"

Sikhism is not going anywhere mate..........dont you worry..................if Bhuddism reduced in India.......it increased in other parts of the world........so Chill mate............young Sikhs are leaving Punjab at a fast rate then ever before.........even if anyone dont convert..........population of Sikhs is bound to decrease in Punjab ............just check last few census.......that will make my point clear............in my city alone .........a whole generation of people of my elder brother's age ...just transfered out of India.................

And why do u want me to fight against Chruches?????? are you recuiting for RSS ?????

I can only say, Good whatever rocks your boat!

 

[SledgeHammer]

whatever helps you sleep at night

Modi is not controlled by remote.............actually RSS got many of its people elected as MP and posted at high levels in BJP....to directly press switches of MODI without a remote

Did they manage to press switches in Gujrat? What happened to Togadia and his VHP in Modi's Gujrat? Modi will take 2-3 years to deliver on some of his promises and consolidate his position, after that the scene will be completely different, already the 'ghar wapsi' guy doing high-pitched drama has been cut to size.

 

[Tshering22]

But why did Modi ji do that? Why is it that no voices are raised when foreign funded missionaries and dawah loaded clerics convert people to islam and christianity with false promises of prosperity?

Why no 'secular' voice is raised when an illegal act as per the Indian Constitution is done openly?

Oh by the way, for those who were saying that VHP is a menace to all 'minorities', here is another heartburner:

No Havan, Ghar Wapsi for Buddhist converts: VHP - The Times of India

TOI has used wrong words. Hindus don't 'convert' to Buddhism. They simply consider another branch of the same Dharmic philosophy.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Mr. Modi may be trying hard to curb bad mouthing elements of his party & RSS but as you can see guys like Yogi Adiyatnath & Sakhshi Maharaj are still out of control. VHP controversy regarding Kareena Kapoor is another latest example.
Well scams were distractions for the UPA govt. Is it going to be Religious intolerance for modi Govt.?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

But why did Modi ji do that? Why is it that no voices are raised when foreign funded missionaries and dawah loaded clerics convert people to islam and christianity with false promises of prosperity?

Why no 'secular' voice is raised when an illegal act as per the Indian Constitution is done openly?

Oh by the way, for those who were saying that VHP is a menace to all 'minorities', here is another heartburner:

No Havan, Ghar Wapsi for Buddhist converts: VHP - The Times of India

TOI has used wrong words. Hindus don't 'convert' to Buddhism. They simply consider another branch of the same Dharmic philosophy.

You are breaking the 'secular' fabric of our country.

Mr. Modi may be trying hard to curb bad mouthing elements of his party & RSS but as you can see guys like Yogi Adiyatnath & Sakhshi Maharaj are still out of control. VHP controversy regarding Kareena Kapoor is another latest example.
Well scams were distractions for the UPA govt. Is it going to be Religious intolerance for modi Govt.?

Your username is very communal.

 

[Echo_419]

But why did Modi ji do that? Why is it that no voices are raised when foreign funded missionaries and dawah loaded clerics convert people to islam and christianity with false promises of prosperity?

Why no 'secular' voice is raised when an illegal act as per the Indian Constitution is done openly?

Oh by the way, for those who were saying that VHP is a menace to all 'minorities', here is another heartburner:

No Havan, Ghar Wapsi for Buddhist converts: VHP - The Times of India

TOI has used wrong words. Hindus don't 'convert' to Buddhism. They simply consider another branch of the same Dharmic philosophy.

Stop breaking the secular fabric of our country

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Your username is very communal.

I want to become a communal but I failed to become loyal to even my own community .

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I want to become a communal but I failed to become loyal to even my own community .

You are communal. Know from where the word juggernaut comes from?