How many aircraft carriers does the Islamic world have?

[TalkToMe:D]

Are you a fool or are you joking? An LST is NOT an LPD nor an LHD! India has the most illiterates in the world, and this forum is flooded by them.

What do you want Amphibious capable mobility or mobile helicopter landing ability or just a chest thumping label of LPD/LHD?

In addition to its primary role of Amphibious Operations carrying Battle Tanks, Troops and vehicles to hostile coasts, the Ship also forms a potent assault platform with Rockets and Chaff launchers, Anti-aircraft guns, shoulder launched Surface to Air Missiles and an integral Sea King or an Advanced Light Helicopter.

 

[buddyboyyash]

1. Jinnah and Admiral HMS Chaudhury, first Pakistani PN Chief designate, had booked HMS Hercules for RPN, as it was called then. RPN HQ was the only Service HQ at Karachi and Jinnah had taken a liking for Chudhury who was a fine officer. However, after Jinnah's death Pakistan had cancelled the deal and RIN quickly obtained her and named it RINS Vikrant. Siddiq Chaudhury had developed differences with the Army dominated ML administration which was interested to allot more funds to PA. In disgust this man of vision took voluntary retirement in 1959.

2. Nigeria, Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and Indonesia should have carriers. Requires political will free from external pressure. If Nasser was alive, or Gen Zia or Sukarno, then their nations would already be sailing carriers.

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1. Jinnah and Admiral HMS Chaudhury, first Pakistani PN Chief designate, had booked HMS Hercules for RPN, as it was called then. RPN HQ was the only Service HQ at Karachi and Jinnah had taken a liking for Chudhury who was a fine officer. However, after Jinnah's death Pakistan had cancelled the deal and RIN quickly obtained her and named it RINS Vikrant. Siddiq Chaudhury had developed differences with the Army dominated ML administration which was interested to allot more funds to PA. In disgust this man of vision took voluntary retirement in 1959.

2. Nigeria, Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and Indonesia should have carriers. Requires political will free from external pressure. If Nasser was alive, or Gen Zia or Sukarno, then their nations would already be sailing carriers.

there are no IFs and BUTs in international arena...either u have it or dont....

i can quote thousands of "IFs" about how india could have been "IF..."

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During Sukarno's time, Indonesian navy was said to be the fourth strongest in the world behind Soviet, American and British navy and even ahead of Chinese navy. The Soviets provided Indonesian navy with a lot of weaponry.

u arent answering my questions...WHY??

 

[Banglar Lathial]

an "illiterate" is a person who cant even write his own name....so people who can type on this forum are ILLITERATES??...wat a logic

the guy u quoted is asking if it is NECESSARY for the ship to be LPD OR LHD to prove india's tech??

yeah we are just fools who only read wikipedia...maybe u can enlighten our minds by giving us proper sources...

That definition of "illiterate" is used in India, but most Indians are functionally illiterate and possess little to no critical thinking ability (same as many other poor countries).

If India could not even design or develop one single LPD/LHD yet, while Indonesia, already operates at least 5 and can procure, design and build more if necessary, does it not prove India is inferior to certain countries in the Muslim world?

You seem more amenable to logical discussion that is why I have responded, hoping for a logical answer. Most of your country men in this forum are complete ignoramuses with no shred of logic. Their only source is Wikipedia!

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What do you want Amphibious capable mobility or mobile helicopter landing ability or just a chest thumping label of LPD/LHD?

There are dozens of countries that can probably build LSTs. Nothing surprising about it. If Indonesia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia or other countries were really after chest-thumping, they would have built bigger, longer range vessels like aircraft carriers. That suits Indians while India has the most illiterate and hungry in the world.

Indonesia actually needs more LPDs and has designed 35,000 tonne helicopter carrier. This is beyond the present capabilities of India.

 

[Skull and Bones]

During Sukarno's time, Indonesian navy was said to be the fourth strongest in the world behind Soviet, American and British navy and even ahead of Chinese navy. The Soviets provided Indonesian navy with a lot of weaponry.

So a Muslim country procuring arms from a communist country? Isn't it a shame for a muslim country like Indonesia after being superior from the rest in terms of technology.

 

[TalkToMe:D]

That definition of "illiterate" is used in India, but most Indians are functionally illiterate and possess little to no critical thinking ability (same as many other poor countries).

If India could not even design or develop one single LPD/LHD yet, while Indonesia, already operates at least 5 and can procure, design and build more if necessary, does it not prove India is inferior to certain countries in the Muslim world?

You seem more amenable to logical discussion that is why I have responded, hoping for a logical answer. Most of your country men in this forum are complete ignoramuses with no shred of logic. Their only source is Wikipedia!

OK Mr. Enlightened tell me the benefit of LPD/LHD, amphibious troops and weapon mobility? we have it mobile helipad? we are building a better one anything more please enlighten me, and lol with your personal attacks

 

[Henry]

India has none of that.

Planning, Building, Assembling and Launching the Spaceprobes.

Months of Cruise in the Hohmahns Transfer Orbit and Putting into Orbit around the Planet is the entire program.

Considering Islamic World has not even started.

You people are to Illiterate to understand it.

More like crash landing.

That was Hard Landing Achieved.

Chandrayaan 2 is Soft Landing with a Rover!

No Indian Manned spaceflight yet.

Again We are in the Midst of the Programme.

No indigenous Indian SSBN yet.

Arihant Class.

No indigenous Indian Aircraft Carriers yet.

Vikrant Class

1. Indonesia already built 5 LPDs, can build aircraft carriers if wealthy Muslim countries pay up.
2. Iran already has IRBM/MRBM, and SLV. Less Western pressure on them, and they can possibly scale up to build an ICBM easily.3. Indonesia built, designed dozens of civilian aircrafts, while Indians are boasting about their fantasies of possible future Indian aircrafts.

Helplessness of the Poor *******.

4. India can not even design a single engine on its own. Your TATA and others sought help from numerous foreign countries for Indian "national engine" What a joke!

Kaveri Engine achieved Thrust of 82Kn with Afterburner.

The First Jet Engine was built in 1902.

India has already covered 80-90 Years Gap by achieving 80 Kn+ which West achieved in the 80s.

While the Islamic World is 100 Years Behind.

5. Malaysian SCOMI Engineering Bhd. provides your poor country with Monorails and exports them to Brazil as well. Where the f*ck is India in that?

That is Chinese Malays who made.

Not *******.

Chinese and Indian work hard.

While the ******* enjoy Free Money.

And the list can continue ad infinitum. The question is, how can poor illiterate Indians even pay anybody for reducing their ignorance and illiteracy? That is why India and India's neighbours contain so many illiterates.

That was ad hominem Idiocy on your Part!

 

[buddyboyyash]

That definition of "illiterate" is used in India, but most Indians are functionally illiterate and possess little to no critical thinking ability (same as many other poor countries).

If India could not even design or develop one single LPD/LHD yet, while Indonesia, already operates at least 5 and can procure, design and build more if necessary, does it not prove India is inferior to certain countries in the Muslim world?

You seem more amenable to logical discussion that is why I have responded, hoping for a logical answer. Most of your country men in this forum are complete ignoramuses with no shred of logic. Their only source is Wikipedia!

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There are dozens of countries that can probably build LSTs. Nothing surprising about it. If Indonesia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia or other countries were really after chest-thumping, they would have built bigger, longer range vessels like aircraft carriers. That suits Indians while India has the most illiterate and hungry in the world.

Indonesia actually needs more LPDs and has designed 35,000 tonne helicopter carrier. This is beyond the present capabilities of India.

yaar developing something doesnt make a country superior or inferior...india sent mission to moon...made its own supercomputer....tested words 3rd and asias most powerful rocket booster...an indian company made a microcomputer at the same time as apple (HCL)...although apple took global lead and HCL is still just a 6 billion dollar enterprise...

india has a HUGE IT industry and lots of other companies with billion dollar assets (dont temme all this came without any kinda tech)

india is building its own aircraft carrier...

so??

does that make india superior?? or it doesnt...

look at the world forum...at least officially...india has the same say as somalia as all the countries are treated equally (at least officially)

 

[CarbonD]

zero . zero

0.0

I got your joke

 

[Banglar Lathial]

So a Muslim country procuring arms from a communist country? Isn't it a shame for a muslim country like Indonesia after being superior from the rest in terms of technology.

What? Rewrite your question. It doesn't make any sense.

 

[buddyboyyash]

I got your joke

i got it after reading ur post

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

1. Indonesia already built 5 LPDs, can build aircraft carriers if wealthy Muslim countries pay up.

2. Iran already has IRBM/MRBM, and SLV. Less Western pressure on them, andthey can possibly scale up to build an ICBM easily.

Now who is fantasizing

3. Indonesia built, designed dozens of civilian aircrafts,

OK

while Indians are boasting about their fantasies of possible future Indian aircrafts.

We already have Indian aircrafts

4. India can not even design a single engine on its own. Your TATA and others sought help from numerous foreign countries for Indian "national engine" What a joke!

National Engine? Tata? what nonsense?

5. Malaysian SCOMI Engineering Bhd. provides your poor country with Monorails and exports them to Brazil as well. Where the f*ck is India in that?

I have no problem admitting that Malaysia has decent base in infrastructure and India doesn't.
Perhaps you might wanna check which ethnic group owns larger portion of Malaysian economy

And the list can continue ad infinitum.

Please do so.

The question is, how can poor illiterate Indians even pay anybody for reducing their ignorance and illiteracy?

Why do poor Indians have to pay someone for reducing illiteracy? , thats the Govts job.

That is why India and India's neighbours contain so many illiterates.

Weird logic.

India is nowhere near the Islamic world in science and technological development level.

If you consider the above as examples of progress in science then you are kinda ignorant, there is more to science than those above. I can post many other Indian developments which none of the above nations posses , but i won't claim that as scientific superiority.

But from a science and Islamic world perspective, post golden age of Islam and Mongol invasion , until today, i hardly recall any invention that has global impact from the Islamic world, .Post Renaissance period and Industrial revolution the West has dominated the theater of science . In fact in entire Asia , i see only Japan capable of matching the West, and China catching up.
So atleast let us agree on this.

India also has the largest number of illiterates in the world, explaining your hysterical laughter.

India also has more literates than the entire subcontinent (excluding India)

Also i concur India doesn't have LPD/LHD

 

[buddyboyyash]

What? Rewrite your question. It doesn't make any sense.

he means..as u quoted islamic world is far far ahead y is indonesia buying from soviets....

 

[Banglar Lathial]

yaar developing something doesnt make a country superior or inferior...india sent mission to moon...made its own supercomputer....tested words 3rd and asias most powerful rocket booster...an indian company made a microcomputer at the same time as apple (HCL)...although apple took global lead and HCL is still just a 6 billion dollar enterprise...

india has a HUGE IT industry and lots of other companies with billion dollar assets (dont temme all this came without any kinda tech)

india is building its own aircraft carrier...

so??

does that make india superior?? or it doesnt...

look at the world forum...at least officially...india has the same say as somalia as all the countries are treated equally (at least officially)

You have a good point that making one thing or another does not necessarily make the country superior or inferior. But about supercomputers, don't you know that Iran has built them already?

Muslim companies are actually much bigger and widespread than Indian companies. The simple reason is that Muslim world has a much larger economy. As for space programme and so on, it is because most Muslim countries do not have leaders who would like to unite. That is the Muslims problem, not the lack of technology, scientists or engineers. After all, India has the most number of illiterates in the world.

There are millions of talented Muslims all over the world who get no opportunity to display their talents because of incompetent, secular governments that actually work for Americans and other Westerners.

 

[Henry]

That definition of "illiterate" is used in India, but most Indians are functionally illiterate and possess little to no critical thinking ability (same as many other poor countries).

If India could not even design or develop one single LPD/LHD yet, while Indonesia, already operates at least 5 and can procure, design and build more if necessary, does it not prove India is inferior to certain countries in the Muslim world?

You seem more amenable to logical discussion that is why I have responded, hoping for a logical answer. Most of your country men in this forum are complete ignoramuses with no shred of logic. Their only source is Wikipedia!

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There are dozens of countries that can probably build LSTs. Nothing surprising about it. If Indonesia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia or other countries were really after chest-thumping, they would have built bigger, longer range vessels like aircraft carriers. That suits Indians while India has the most illiterate and hungry in the world.

Indonesia actually needs more LPDs and has designed 35,000 tonne helicopter carrier. This is beyond the present capabilities of India.

India Bombed the Islamic World with Aircraft Carriers!

Based on Naval Intelligence reports that the Pakistan Navy intended to break through the Indian Naval blockade using camouflaged merchant ships, the Sea Hawks struck shipping in the Chittagong and Cox's Bazar harbors, sinking or incapacitating most ships in harbor. On the morning of 4 December 1971, the eight Sea Hawk aircraft on the Vikrant launched an air raid on Cox's Bazaar from 60 nautical miles (110 km) offshore. On the evening of 4 December, the air group struck Chittagong Harbor. Later strikes targeted Khulna and Port of Mongla. A PTI report of 4 December read, "Chittagong harbour ablaze as ships and aircraft of the Eastern Naval Fleet bombed and rocketed. Not a single vessel can be put to sea from Chittagong." Air strikes continued until 10 December 1971 with not a single Sea Hawk lost.

INS Vikrant (R11) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


That's Called Capability.

 

[Banglar Lathial]

he means..as u quoted islamic world is far far ahead y is indonesia buying from soviets....

If that is the case, then you should know that Soviets do not exist any longer. Indonesia purchased weapons from the Soviets in the past, not today, that was because Indonesia was a leader of the NAM movement at the time.

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That's Called Capability.

That's called Wikipedia. No wonder for the illiterates it is the only source of information. If you want, then compare Muslim aviation industry with India's non existent aerospace/aviation industry.