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How long will Israel exist?

We have seen big powers and empires collapsing throughout our history... So undoubtedly USA will not be an exception here Insha Allah....

Undoubtedly Israel can't be destroyed unless US is there.. but Holy Prophet (SA) have told us about the destruction of Dajjal , who is a False Jewish Messiah , by Hazrat Isa (AS) .. So before Israel's destruction, it is a definite thing that USA will collapse as the ruling state in the world... Then only Israel will be destroyed by the Army from Khorasan (land that consists of Parts of Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan in today's world map)..

Quite a possibility.USA might disintegrate into thin air some day.Nothing is permanent.But so far as just possibilities are concerned,the same goes for India,Pakistan,China,Paraguay,this World,solar system,milky way galaxy.......
 
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Some of the people here are not able to understand that israel is an artificial state with arabs all around it. The western superiority in military and economy is keeping it there As soon as the west gets a bit weak israel is a goner.
 
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Do Islam religious texts actually talk about Israel ?? Just curious to know...

Yes .. Islam talks about Israel... In Quran Allah have quoted Jews as "Bani Israel" meaning the sons of Israel at every place where Allah talks about jews.... one of Prophet of Allah was Hazrat Yaqub (AS) who was also Known as Israel at that time about 4500 years ago.... So "Bani" means "sons" , so " Bani Israel " means "sons of Yaqub (AS)"..

Basically the state that was created by Hazrat Daud and Hazrat Suleman (AS) for the jews was called "state of Israel" at that time.... the state of Israel at that time is the same that is on the world map today....
 
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if u are quoting islamic verses to predict the future of israel (rather than economical , political or military reasons ) then this topic does not deserves to be dicussed in a military forum like PDF rather u should discuss this in some religious forums .
by the way i'v also heard similar prophecies about india by some ppl . gazwa-e-hind u must be knowing . we cant help but laugh off such prophecies . get real . :cheers:
 
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Some of the people here are not able to understand that israel is an artificial state with arabs all around it. The western superiority in military and economy is keeping it there As soon as the west gets a bit weak israel is a goner.

ask this to netanyahu,he will say we drive america.
 
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See dont get me wrong buddy, you believe in your faith and so you hold this belief of destruction of Dajjal. Correct me if i am wrong, Islam is only religion which gives prophecies, and i have seen attitude of muslim people that they FIRMLY BELIEVE A PROPHECY and than put hand on hand and remain seated, waiting for things to just HAPPEN. In this sense i find other religions like JAINISM and SIKHISM too good which put alot of emphasis on doing work one self and carving out their destiny the way one wants.

you are wrong that only Islam have prophecies...

Judaism have a prophecy of a Messiah to whom we Muslims consider as Dajjal/Antichrist ... Christians have a believe of Return of Jesus (Hazrat Isa AS) in which we believe to be true because he is our Messiah also.. both these religions also have their prophecies and signs that will indicate that the arrival of Messiah is near (which Many Islamic scholars believe is very near).

By the way None of these three religions (Islam, Judaism and Christianity) are just sitting idol and doing nothing... every religion is preparing for their Messiah.. the only thing is that few are doing it openly while MANY are not doing it openly... So its completely wrong that nothing is being done....

lastly, I really can't comment on the other religions you have stated because I have no knowledge of them. but i want to say that Islam have never told us to just sit down and wait for someone to come and help you.... Islam have told us to struggle and work hard and make your life good, but it gives us restrictions which we can't cross...

Islam have told us to make our destiny better , but it means afterlife.. So everything we do , right or wrong , every human being will be held accountable in the life after death for what he/she did in the life...

So your claim that other religions are better than Islam is completely wrong...
 
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Jews have survived persecution over a period of 4000 years from various groups: Pharaohs,Christians,Muslims,Nazis ......

Whats makes you believe that they"ll die out now,especially unlike in the past today they have the upper hand in Middle-east?

Besides,why are Pakistanis so anti-Semitic in general?
while on one hand you people praise the Ottoman empire for being the greatest Muslim state in history,and posses every knowledge of its victories over European states,:blah:

while on the other hand being completely ignorant about Ottoman empire's tolerance for Jews and promotion of their economic development.:hitwall:
 
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You are right. But can you give this reason to a Non Muslim? How will you convince them about the end of Israel by giving religious references? Hope you get my point.


I cannot force you to believe in what I believe.

You can have your opinion.
 
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Yes .. Islam talks about Israel... In Quran Allah have quoted Jews as "Bani Israel" meaning the sons of Israel at every place where Allah talks about jews.... one of Prophet of Allah was Hazrat Yaqub (AS) who was also Known as Israel at that time about 4500 years ago.... So "Bani" means "sons" , so " Bani Israel " means "sons of Yaqub (AS)"..

Basically the state that was created by Hazrat Daud and Hazrat Suleman (AS) for the jews was called "state of Israel" at that time.... the state of Israel at that time is the same that is on the world map today....

Now that was enlightening,some thing I didn't know before..Thank you..
 
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Just one question...

Let us say,just for argument's sake,that one fine morning, the state of Israel disintegrates.So what may be the possible aftermath??Considering the past and present relation of Israel with its good ol' neighbours and given to their reputation in the region,I think that I would not be mistaken if I assume that widespread violence will follow with mainly the jews being in the receiving end.Now that is undesirable in my opinion,as I am against unnecessary bloodshed.Any thoughts???
 
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Some of the people here are not able to understand that israel is an artificial state with arabs all around it. The western superiority in military and economy is keeping it there As soon as the west gets a bit weak israel is a goner.

What people dont seem to understand Israel has a Doctrine called the Samson Doctrine. The phrase the “Samson Option” is used to describe Israel’s strategy of massive nuclear retaliation against “enemy” nations should its existence as a Jewish state be jeopardized through military attack.

So the correct answer is that Isreal will last as long as the middle east lasts. Present targets for Israel Nuclear weapons.

Cairo, Alexandria, Baghdad, Tehran,, Beirut, Casablanca, Damascus, Istanbul, Dubai, Riyad, Mecca and 200 other cities. Is getting rid of Israel worth it. you decide.
 
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What people dont seem to understand Israel has a Doctrine called the Samson Doctrine. The phrase the “Samson Option” is used to describe Israel’s strategy of massive nuclear retaliation against “enemy” nations should its existence as a Jewish state be jeopardized through military attack.

So the correct answer is that Isreal will last as long as the middle east lasts. Present targets for Israel Nuclear weapons.

Cairo, Alexandria, Baghdad, Tehran,, Beirut, Casablanca, Damascus, Istanbul, Dubai, Riyad, Mecca and 200 other cities. Is getting rid of Israel worth it. you decide.
Dude Pakistanis are well aware of this type of doctrine - We also have similar doctrine wrt nuclear weapons Thanks to the big enemy in the east with huge armed forces.
 
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This is irrelevant to Pakistan whatever happens to Israel. We do not host Palestinian refugees and neither we have any trade relation with Israel. Israel does not owe us money and neither we owe any money to Israel. How many Pakistanis know what do Knesset or Shekel mean ? Neither most Pakistani know what Talmud is . I believe that the right question should be what the future of Pakistan is in a Pakistani defence forum than about a country which has nothing to do with Pakistan.
 
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What people dont seem to understand Israel has a Doctrine called the Samson Doctrine. The phrase the “Samson Option” is used to describe Israel’s strategy of massive nuclear retaliation against “enemy” nations should its existence as a Jewish state be jeopardized through military attack.

So the correct answer is that Isreal will last as long as the middle east lasts. Present targets for Israel Nuclear weapons.

Cairo, Alexandria, Baghdad, Tehran,, Beirut, Casablanca, Damascus, Istanbul, Dubai, Riyad, Mecca and 200 other cities. Is getting rid of Israel worth it. you decide.

Yup...their whole nuclear doctrine is based on collective punishment for the entire Middle East.If Israel falls the whole of ME will be in a Mushroom cloud.
 
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