How LCA-Tejas MK1A stakes up against JF-17 and Gripen-E in terms of Affordability?

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

OK we give the exclusive right to chinese to become blue water navy with Ukraine carrier .

& They challenge usa with it . what about you ? Oh catching poor srilankan fishermen .

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Thanks for proving my point. Those are still IAF operated birds. The ones in production aren't prototypes.

Tejas fighters, however, won't be used for operations now. They will undergo test flights to resolve certain flaws. The clearance for operations is expected in December.???


The Tejas still has 19 unresolved issues - including nose wheel vibrations, high noise level in the cockpit -- which need to be sorted out. "The HAL (the manufacturer, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited) and IAF are working closely to sort out these issues, we expect them to go through it quickly," the commander said.

For now, the Air Force will start the training and induction of pilots. Also, test pilots manning the squadron will work closely with HAL to "deal with the niggling issues," he added.

Despite its flaws, the Air Force had agreed to induct the aircraft to keep the Tejas programme alive and bolster its flagging squadron numbers. The Air Force is down to 33 fighter squadrons against the required 42. Each squadron has 14 to 16 jets. Over the next few years, the IAF will lose another 14 squadrons comprising the aging Russian-made MiG-21 and MiG 27s.

To make up the numbers the Air Force has ordered 80 more Tejas fighters, and their total number will be 120 -- the delivery will depend on HAL's production capacity.

The first batch 20 fighters produced by HAL will not have the capacity to refuel on air - a critical quality during operations.

"That, a better radar , and the ability to fire missiles beyond the visual range will be incorporated in the second batch of 20 fighters," the officer said. India is hoping to use Israeli radars.

 

[HariPrasad]

& They challenge usa with it . what about you ? Oh catching poor srilankan fishermen .

Lioning is mot fit for even training and they challenged US with lioning? I think you must have listen this story from any chinese.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Tejas fighters, however, won't be used for operations now. They will undergo test flights to resolve certain flaws. The clearance for operations is expected in December.???


The Tejas still has 19 unresolved issues - including nose wheel vibrations, high noise level in the cockpit -- which need to be sorted out. "The HAL (the manufacturer, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited) and IAF are working closely to sort out these issues, we expect them to go through it quickly," the commander said.

For now, the Air Force will start the training and induction of pilots. Also, test pilots manning the squadron will work closely with HAL to "deal with the niggling issues," he added.

Despite its flaws, the Air Force had agreed to induct the aircraft to keep the Tejas programme alive and bolster its flagging squadron numbers. The Air Force is down to 33 fighter squadrons against the required 42. Each squadron has 14 to 16 jets. Over the next few years, the IAF will lose another 14 squadrons comprising the aging Russian-made MiG-21 and MiG 27s.

To make up the numbers the Air Force has ordered 80 more Tejas fighters, and their total number will be 120 -- the delivery will depend on HAL's production capacity.

The first batch 20 fighters produced by HAL will not have the capacity to refuel on air - a critical quality during operations.

"That, a better radar , and the ability to fire missiles beyond the visual range will be incorporated in the second batch of 20 fighters," the officer said. India is hoping to use Israeli radars.

Did you prove me wrong? They're still not prototypes, still it's IAF operated. The first MKI sqd was also near it's production line for the same reasons. Work out any possible issues that may happen, etc. And that's already a design that's certified and operated by Russia. The first couple of MKIs coming out, regardless were also IAF operated as well. No different to the Tejas coming out of production right now.

As far as the BVR. The 20 bird's composite nose cone will be replaced by the new quartz one. It's previous composite cone was interfering with the radar. Even air to air probe from the next 20 could be fitted.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Lioning is mot fit for even training and they challenged US with lioning? I think you must have listen this story from any chinese.

I mean PLAN mr . hanuman cheyna ram raj ki staphna waley .

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Did you prove me wrong? They're still not prototypes, still it's IAF operated. The first MKI sqd was also near it's production line for the same reasons. Work out any possible issues that may happen, etc. And that's already a design that's certified and operated by Russia.

As far as the BVR. The 20 bird's composite nose cone will be replaced by the new quartz one. It's previous composite cone was interfering with the radar. Even air to air probe from the next 20 could be fitted.

LOL.. Okay

 

[Abba_Dabba_Jabba]

Ok let me correct it for you :

JF Blk 3>>> JF Blk 2 >>> JF Blk 1 >>>>> F22

Fine ??

 

[Water Car Engineer]

LOL.. Okay

Right good one.

These were the first 2 handed over.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Right good one.

No BVR... Jet prone with unresolved issues... no operational missions..undergoing tests and 2 in service... wah ..

Ok let me correct it for you :

JF Blk 3>>> JF Blk 2 >>> JF Blk 1 >>>>> F22

Fine ??

Tejas fighters, however, won't be used for operations now. They will undergo test flights to resolve certain flaws. The clearance for operations is expected in December.???


The Tejas still has 19 unresolved issues - including nose wheel vibrations, high noise level in the cockpit -- which need to be sorted out. "The HAL (the manufacturer, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited) and IAF are working closely to sort out these issues, we expect them to go through it quickly," the commander said.

For now, the Air Force will start the training and induction of pilots. Also, test pilots manning the squadron will work closely with HAL to "deal with the niggling issues," he added.

Despite its flaws, the Air Force had agreed to induct the aircraft to keep the Tejas programme alive and bolster its flagging squadron numbers. The Air Force is down to 33 fighter squadrons against the required 42. Each squadron has 14 to 16 jets. Over the next few years, the IAF will lose another 14 squadrons comprising the aging Russian-made MiG-21 and MiG 27s.

To make up the numbers the Air Force has ordered 80 more Tejas fighters, and their total number will be 120 -- the delivery will depend on HAL's production capacity.

The first batch 20 fighters produced by HAL will not have the capacity to refuel on air - a critical quality during operations.

"That, a better radar , and the ability to fire missiles beyond the visual range will be incorporated in the second batch of 20 fighters," the officer said. India is hoping to use Israeli radars.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

No BVR... Jet prone with unresolved issues... no operational missions.. and 2 in service... wah ..

You do know those 20 models can get the new quartz radome and be BVR capable, right? It was the original composite cone which was interfering with it's radar.

Here's an older LSP with the new cone trialing with BVR. Even the refueling probe can be retrofitted.

About operational mission, these birds have just been inducted. IAF airmen are playing around with the birds as we speak. Again, even with operating the regular Su30s, the MKIs coming out of HAL were stationed near Nasik in Maharashtra for the very reasons stated in the article.

 

[Tehari_Haleem]

I thank dessault aviation for their help in designing the tejas airframe.

Why no love for Air Chief Marshal Idris Hassan Latif ?

Ok let me correct it for you :

JF Blk 3>>> JF Blk 2 >>> JF Blk 1 >>>>> F22

Fine ??

Finally Somebody from India gets it right Kudos

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You do know those 20 models can get the new quartz radome and be BVR capable, right? It was the original composite cone which was interfering with it's radar.

Here's an older LSP with the new cone trialing with BVR. Even the refueling probe can be retrofitted.

About operational mission, these birds have just been inducted. IAF airmen are playing around with the birds as we speak. Again, even with operating the regular Su30s, the MKIs coming out of HAL were stationed near Nasik in Maharashtra for the very reasons stated in the article.

Hope you do know that you are posting video of a prototype?

Hope you also know that to build 20 it would take India 2 years with your current production rate ?

And for that too happen India would first have to resolve the issues with LCA? And than you may think about producing first 20 and than the other batch of 20 which will be capable of firing BVR ? And that alone would take years .



And now tell your countrymen to stop embarrassing themselves by comparing a jet that has over 70 units in service over 20,000 operational flying hours ... Including combat operations and several international airshows and export orders ... And whose block III has already started production .. Aswell as a twin seater version that will fly this year?

 

[Dazzler]

You do know there are Tejas operated by the IAF, right? Those aren't prototypes, or LSP, but actual IAF owned, operated models.

http://1.1.1.2/bmi/www.tejas.gov.in/images/Republic-Day-Tejas.jpg


The last 4 are IAF owned, manned, operated models. Not prototypes.

These manned, owned and operated aircraft will go through a long testing and evaluation stage. Ever heard of Test and Flight Evaluation process? Before that, they are NOT ready for active duty which means that LCA is still not officially in service.

 

[Dazzler]

No, they wont. They want a twin engine fighter along the lines of a Rafale, F18 Super Hornet.

The IN always thinks long term, but the fact they even took in Tejas from the beginning was something no one expected them to do. They are still supporting it as a TD for the eventual N-AMCA.

So, is your LCA naval version a twin engine fighter?

 

[hussain0216]

The only thing keeping the LCA programme running is EGO