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How Could India’s IITs Do so Badly in a Global Ranking of Engineering Schools?

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How Could India’s IITs Do so Badly in a Global Ranking of Engineering Schools? - India Real Time - WSJ

How Could India’s IITs Do so Badly in a Global Ranking of Engineering Schools?
12:23 pm IST
Oct 13, 2015
Education
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Indian engineering students during a competition organized by the Department of Electronic Systems Engineering and the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore, Apr. 2015.
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They have nurtured some of Silicon Valley’s leading lights but Indian institutions feature just eight times among a recently-compiled list of the world’s top 250 engineering schools.

The highest ranked, the Indian Institute of Technology in Delhi, came in at 103rd place on the U.S. News and World Report ranking published last week.

The league table put China’s Tsinghua University top, ahead of Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Stanford University.

The others from India — all IITs apart from the Indian Institute of Science Bangalore and Jadvapur University in Kolkata – placed between 169th and 229th.

Universities were graded on 12 indicators, including the number of academic research papers produced, citations given and Ph.D.s awarded. This is the first year Indian schools have been included in the engineering-specific rankings.

The Indian engineering schools have produced some stellar engineering graduates. For instance, IIT Kharagpur, ranked 171, counts Google CEO Sundar Pichai among its metallurgical engineering graduates.

Satya Nadella, Microsoft CEO, earned his electrical engineering degree from Manipal Institute of Technology, which didn’t make it into the rankings.

So why don’t these schools do better internationally?

Experts attribute the low rankings to a lack of focus on research and the high student-to-faculty ratio among other things.

In the Quacquarelli Symonds’ global university rankings, published in September, Indian schools gained ground this year — IIT Delhi climbed 56 spots to the 179th rank and the Indian Institute of Science ranked 147th—but they were the only ones to make it into the top 200.

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Indian institutes also lose ground in rankings because they enroll only a small cohort of foreign students, mostly in post graduate and research programs, and also have very small international faculties.

In IIT Delhi, for instance, the size of international faculty was only about 1% of its total teaching staff of more than 400. At MIT, which led the QS ranking, international staff members made up more than 55% of the total faculty. At the National University of Singapore, the top-ranking Asian university on the QS list, more than 60% of the staff were international.

IIT Chennai, in south India, enrolled its first international student in an undergraduate program last year.

Despite these advances, some, including Narayan Murthy, founder of Infosys Ltd., one of India’s largest outsourcing firms, remain skeptical of the quality of education at domestic institutions. Mr. Murthy is an alumnus of IIT Kanpur.

“Let us pause and ask what the contributions of Indian institutions of higher learning particularly IISc (Indian Institute of Science) and IITs, have been over the last 60-plus years to make our society and the world a better place,” Mr. Murthy was reported as saying during a speech in July at the Indian Institute of Science.

“Is there one invention from India that has become a household name in the globe? Is there one technology that has transformed the productivity of global corporations?” he said. “Folks, the reality is that there is no such contribution from India in the last 60 years.”

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I have been always puzzled why with all these Indian much lauded Engineering schools and with the name of IT superpower, they perform poorly in any high level world coding or hacking competitions, like GCJ, Topcoder, ICPC, etc. Those competitions are dominated by Chinese, Russians, Americans. Are they really as good as they think they are?
 
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All IITs would rank among top 10 in the world if only under grads are considered. IITs are able to attract and get the best talents for under graduate courses who eventually land up working in financial institutions. But that is not the idea of a technological institute. The contribution of IITs in research and innovation is negligible compared to top ranked universities in the world.
 
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I have been always puzzled why with all these Indian much lauded Engineering schools and with the name of IT superpower, they perform poorly in any high level world coding or hacking competitions, like GCJ, Topcoder, ICPC, etc. Those competitions are dominated by Chinese, Russians, Americans. Are they really as good as they think they are?

Because talented youths do their job first, instead of attending competitions..
 
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I have been always puzzled why with all these Indian much lauded Engineering schools and with the name of IT superpower, they perform poorly in any high level world coding or hacking competitions, like GCJ, Topcoder, ICPC, etc. Those competitions are dominated by Chinese, Russians, Americans. Are they really as good as they think they are?
lol...They become CEOs of top companies
 
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Youths focus on education and jobs and not to attend some fancy competition and that's why facebook,google etc..even paying very high salary for just 20 and 21 year old talented graduates on campus selection.
 
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lol...They become CEOs of top companies


How dose that help India?

Youths focus on education and jobs and not to attend some fancy competition and that's why facebook,google etc..even paying very high salary for just 20 and 21 year old talented graduates on campus selection.


Well, if that's all Indian talents are looking for, there is not more I can say.
 
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How dose that help India?
how does those quiz will help anyway? In India no one gives a damn about participating in such useless quizzes but rather are concentrated in getting best job possible...Indians and IITians in particular are getting top positions all across the globe

@Mr.Nair kindly post more pics of these campuses, the architecture is amazing. Can you open a separate thread for dedicated to Indian IT campuses?
 
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This is not a drive towards some international airport but indian IT campus

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