What's new

How China’s leading the world in nuclear fusion research

Why can't we bulild our own Fusion Engineering Test Reactor? just because it is bigger than ITER? we default the money on ITER we should pay for? that’s ridiculous.

These son of a b!tch envy we have spare resourse and money building another one.
I was wondering the same thing. Why do we need to team up with SOBs who don't want us there other than our capital?
 
I was wondering the same thing. Why do we need to team up with SOBs who don't want us there other than our capital?
Hehe, this is so-called Internaltional cooperation, sound good, but under the table, everyone is selfish, want learn something from these, but of course hope other give more, include money.
 
Why can't we bulild our own Fusion Engineering Test Reactor? just because it is bigger than ITER? we default the money on ITER we should pay for? that’s ridiculous.

These son of a b!tch envy we have spare resourse and money building another one.
Its already happen. Treat this nuclear thing like our Beidou 2 vs Galileo. The European think they are smart to shut us out after investing USD200million into their project. It happen our Beidou 2 has achieved whole Asian continent operation while Galileo has achieved none so far.
 
Last edited:
China the only country that conducted the first thermonuclear weapon test by air dropping(combat ready, fully practicable), It was a fully functional, full-scale, three-stage H bomb, weighed only 8 tons, tested 32 months after China had made its first fission device. China thus produced the shortest fission-to-fusion development known in history.
The time between the U.S.'s first atomic test and its first hydrogen bomb test was 86 months, for the USSR it was 75 months, for the UK 66 months and later for France, 105 months. US's first thermonuclear test in 1954 was just an experiment,the device weighed over 60 tons and was detonated on a tower.
De Gaulle was pissed after hearing china had H bomb before France.
 
China the only country that conducted the first thermonuclear weapon test by air dropping(combat ready, fully practicable), It was a fully functional, full-scale, three-stage H bomb, weighed only 8 tons, tested 32 months after China had made its first fission device. China thus produced the shortest fission-to-fusion development known in history.
The time between the U.S.'s first atomic test and its first hydrogen bomb test was 86 months, for the USSR it was 75 months, for the UK 66 months and later for France, 105 months. US's first thermonuclear test in 1954 was just an experiment,the device weighed over 60 tons and was detonated on a tower.
De Gaulle was pissed after hearing china had H bomb before France.

But the U.S. had no need to rush. Even the Russians didn't explode an atomic bomb until over 50 months after the first atomic test.
 
But the U.S. had no need to rush. Even the Russians didn't explode an atomic bomb until over 50 months after the first atomic test.
My point was the French thermonuclear technology is not very impressive, i don't know why they are so keen on leading the ITER project and other projects such as Hadron Collider, why ITER was even built in France.
 
China developing fast reactors that will be cheaper than coal

May 16, 2015


China has a long range plan to develop nuclear power that is cheaper than coal. China will develop its own commercial scale fast reactor in 2023 with a more advanced version in 2030. They will then scale up production as part of a build up to around 400 gigawatts of nuclear power by 2050. This would be four times more than the nuclear power currently in the USA.

China will build a lot more hydro power, wind power and solar power but there are limitations based on running out of rivers to dam and how much solar and wind can be integrated into the electrical grid.


















Conditions to Deploy Fast Reactors

• The scale of PWR is large enough which could provide initial fuel loading and refueling fuel to FR
• Uranium becomes expensive enough.
• Safety level has been validate and could be built at inland site.
• Cost is lower than coal power plant.

• China Nuclear Phase 1:
– Reprocessing plant of PWR spent fuel (provide Pu to FR).
– MOX fuel plant
– Breeding FR (BR≈1.2)
– Reprocessing plant of FR spent fuel

• China Nuclear Phase 2:
– Metal fuel plant
– Pyroprocessing plant
– High breeding FR with metal fuel (BR>1.2) while the nuclear grow fast, and
– Low breeding ratio (BR≈1) while nuclear energy maintain a fixed level.

Next Big Future: China developing fast reactors that will be cheaper than coal
 
China developing fast reactors that will be cheaper than coal

May 16, 2015


China has a long range plan to develop nuclear power that is cheaper than coal. China will develop its own commercial scale fast reactor in 2023 with a more advanced version in 2030. They will then scale up production as part of a build up to around 400 gigawatts of nuclear power by 2050. This would be four times more than the nuclear power currently in the USA.

China will build a lot more hydro power, wind power and solar power but there are limitations based on running out of rivers to dam and how much solar and wind can be integrated into the electrical grid.


















Conditions to Deploy Fast Reactors

• The scale of PWR is large enough which could provide initial fuel loading and refueling fuel to FR
• Uranium becomes expensive enough.
• Safety level has been validate and could be built at inland site.
• Cost is lower than coal power plant.

• China Nuclear Phase 1:
– Reprocessing plant of PWR spent fuel (provide Pu to FR).
– MOX fuel plant
– Breeding FR (BR≈1.2)
– Reprocessing plant of FR spent fuel

• China Nuclear Phase 2:
– Metal fuel plant
– Pyroprocessing plant
– High breeding FR with metal fuel (BR>1.2) while the nuclear grow fast, and
– Low breeding ratio (BR≈1) while nuclear energy maintain a fixed level.

Next Big Future: China developing fast reactors that will be cheaper than coal

Coal is the main culprit that is causing the majority of pollution in China. While waiting for Thorium reactors to materialize, why is China not building more nuclear power plants and remove coal plants in the meantime? A small country like France has 23 nuclear power plants.
 
China spends big on nuclear fusion as French plan falls behind | New Scientist

dn27944-1_800.jpg


China’s will be bigger and better
(Image: David Parker/SPL)

The world’s largest nuclear fusion machine, currently being built in France, is unlikely to produce more energy than it consumes until the early 2030s, warned the UK’s head of fusion research this week. That is five years later than planned – by which time China could be ahead of everyone.

Nuclear fusion involves heating a plasma of hydrogen isotopes so that they fuse into helium, releasing a large amount of energy in the process. Many physicists see it as the holy grail for producing cheap zero-carbon energy. But initiating the fusion reactions requires temperatures 10 times as hot as the core of the sun. And decades of experiments have yet to produce self-sustaining fusion reactions – known as “burning plasma” – that generate the energy required to produce such temperatures.

The International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER), a $20 billion machine being built in Cadarache, France, should get there. “We are confident that it will,” Steven Cowley, director of the Culham Centre for Fusion Energy in Oxfordshire, told the science and technology committee of the UK’s House of Lords on Tuesday. But it is taking time and money.

Burning plasma

Constructing ITER has already cost three times as much as budgeted, and completion has slipped from 2016 to 2019, with the first plasma experiments the following year. Cowley told the committee: “ITER says 2020, but I believe the first plasma will be [generated] in 2025.” Burning plasma is unlikely before “the early 2030s”, he said. He likened the moment when burning plasma is achieved to the moment in the early 1940s when the first “critical” nuclear fission reactions were produced.

Only then will the international researchers, many of whom have been working together for decades, move on to building a new plant that could generate continuous power – the forerunner for what they hope will be commercial nuclear fusion by late in the century. “But the biggest investment now is in China,” says Cowley. China is a collaborator on ITER, along with the European Union, the US and others. But it is investing heavily in building its own reactor, the China Fusion Engineering Test Reactor, which will be bigger than ITER and may be finished by 2030, he said.

Cowley disclosed that some partners had discussed whether to continue collaboration with China or shut them out. “We decided to continue to collaborate.” Shutting China out “would only slow them down by a few months”, he told the Lords, who are investigating whether the UK government is getting value for money in its fusion investments. Fusion currently accounts for 14 per cent of UK government spending on energy research, Sharon Ellis of the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills told the committee.
 
China overtakes Germany to make nuclear fusion breakthrough: Reactor creates conditions THREE times hotter than the sun
  • Test was conducted on a magnetic fusion reactor known as EAST
  • Chinese team were able to maintain 50 million°C for 102 seconds
  • The breakthrough that could someday make fusion power a reality
  • Last week Germany used 2 megawatts of microwave radiation to heat hydrogen gas to 80 million°C for a quarter of a second
PUBLISHED: 21:41 GMT, 5 February 2016 | UPDATED: 13:20 GMT, 6 February 2016

Chinese engineers have managed to create hydrogen gas that is three times hotter than the sun.

The team were able to maintain 50 million°C for 102 seconds – a breakthrough that could someday make fusion power a reality.

It follows news last week that Germany used 2 megawatts of microwave radiation to heat hydrogen gas to 80 million°C for a quarter of a second.


Check the news China overtakes Germany to make nuclear fusion breakthrough | Daily Mail Online
 
Congratulations, this is a big achievement indeed. I believe the biggest jump for nuclear fusion will come with the discovery of room temperature super conductors, where you can hold these high energy plasma in a magnetic field very easily.

@ultron and @senheiser ;)

Anything to add to it?
 
Last edited:

Latest posts

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom