How can the U.S. dare lecturing China about Rights of the Muslims?

[HannibalBarca]

Both countries are in the wrong... Next.

 

[beijingwalker]

Mao didn’t give Chinese people anything but misery and destruction.

We Chinese are the judge for what Mao gave us, not Australians, Mao gave China what China wanted the most, a unprecedentedly united nation. and we all know what Mao gave to the west, a bloody nose.

 

[DavidsSling]

Mao didn’t give Chinese people anything but misery and destruction. It was American capital, American factories, American technology, American market access, American managerial expertise, American University access for Chinese students that have made China into what it is today. If America didn’t help China, Chinese people would still be riding bicycles and starving to death.

They hate America and call Americans ‘racist’, but it was America that gave them everything they have now including things like veto power at the UNSC and allowed them to compete at the Olympics.

If America was ‘racist’, they would never have given China any of these things in the first place. This is why you never trust the CCP. Despite everything that America has done to help them, they are still ungrateful people.

The Chinese government is just a shitty weak government, no wonder Google, Youtube, etc are banned in China the government is too scared to allow free speech.

And they want to take over Taiwan they can't even stop students and senior citizens in HK, they have wiped committed cultural genocide in Tibet and they try to bully small countries like the Philippines, etc, yet they are scared shitless about Japan LOL.

Some of my friends have been to China they tell me the people are nice but there is a lot of crime, violence is rife in China, no one wants to help anyone, you can see that when Chinese tourist go aboard, they way Chinese behave is disgusting.

We should be proud when they call us racist because its all they have left to throw at us, Chinese along with India are the most racist in the world.

 

[gambit]

We Chinese see things in a big picture,...

No, you do not. The Chinese people, despite repeated claims here of 'superior' DNAs, are no different than the rest of the world.

 

[beijingwalker]

No, you do not. The Chinese people, despite repeated claims here of 'superior' DNAs, are no different than the rest of the world.

When did I claim the Chinese have superior DNA? I believe all humans are the same, we are just one single species.

 

[kankan326]

Don't forget the Great Leap Backwards, lol 70 million people killed and these Chinese still worship the dirty, scummy, fat bald man Mao as a god.

Chinese history and culture wiped out lol at the Chinese.

Where you got the number 70 million? China's total population was 700 million by then. If you are in China, you can randomly ask people in street this question:"Do you have any relative who died in Mao age because of stavation or persecution?" You will be very lucky if you can meet one who says "yes".

 

[gambit]

When did I claim the Chinese have superior DNA? I believe all humans are the same, we are just one single species.

YOU may not, but past Chinese members of this forum had. Superior Chinese genes and IQ.

 

[Dungeness]

Can we say the same for Mao and his clique? Intelligent but gullible towards Soviet propaganda?

Sure, you can brush off the atrocities of Mao and his revolutionaries as 'honest mistakes', but you can do from the safety and comfort of today, and from the same safety and comfort you can easily call those who pointed out those atrocities as lessons as 'victims' of propaganda. But the charge can just as easily turned to you as well.

Yeah...The atrocities of Unit 731 were also 'honest mistakes', no?

No，I am not saying that "from the safety and comfort of today". I said that because two generations of my family went through those Mao's brutal revolutions as the subjects, and suffered a great deal at personal level, including being deprived from personal farm land and properties, being subject to humiliations and physical harms in those years. Personally, I hated Mao and his gang to core, that's until I lived overseas long enough and China transformed itself enough.

Today, I can accept more the fact that Chinese went through the hardship that CPC imposed to them, especially so when I know more about what India is all about.

The more I heard the story about 30, 40, 70, or even 90 millions Chinese being killed by Mao and CPC, that more I developed mistrust of propaganda of corporate press, and the level of intelligence of audience being targeted. Though I still don't trust CPC's propaganda fully, they are more credible that MSM these days. By reading both sides of stories, I am, in definition, less biased than you.

Using "Unit 731" as analogy to CPC, just showed how little people like you actually know about China and its history. You have to do away the fixation of your cold war ideology, if you want to grasp the logic of China today, and understand that scope of challenge that China presents to the current world order. To be honest, none in the current administration is up top the task. They haven't shown the sophistication, the insight and intellectual depth required to handle the middle kingdom. Sure, you can bomb, but you can't win.

China is what it is today is not by accident, and Xi is not someone that a real estate developer can handle.

 

[DavidsSling]

Where you got the number 70 million? China's total population was 700 million by then. If you are in China, you can randomly ask people in street this question:"Do you have any relative who died in Mao age because of stavation or persecution?" You will be very lucky if you can meet one who says "yes".

Lol, thats right I forgot China bans everything, even history.

 

[beijingwalker]

Lol, thats right I forgot China bans everything, even history.

Funny to see this Israeli jumping up and down crying for Muslim rights, lol..

 

[kankan326]

Lol, thats right I forgot China bans everything, even history.

It's funny some people believe they know China more Chinese themselves. I'm Chinese but I never met anyone who has family members starved or persecuted to die in Mao age. And you as a foreigner told me Mao killed 1/10 Chinese and tried so hard to make me believe it. How ridiculous is that?

 

[gambit]

You have to do away the fixation of your cold war ideology,...

This is where you guys are wrong.

A sort of 'cold war' always exists whenever there are ideological conflicts, even when such a conflict exists only on the theoretical plane. If anything, awareness of the differences and internally created scenarios of 'for' and 'against' means a personal cold war is underway. What we know today of the 'Cold War' is scaled up of many personal internal conflicts.

There is no 'fixation' here, only an understanding of timeless politics and psyches.

if you want to grasp the logic of China today, and understand that scope of challenge that China presents to the current world order. To be honest, none in the current administration is up top the task. They haven't shown the sophistication, the insight and intellectual depth required to handle the middle kingdom. Sure, you can bomb, but you can't win.

Please...

From what I have seen so far, it has been the Middle Kondom that have been unable to 'handle' what comes. You were surprised by the Euros, then the partition and exploitation of your country, then WW II, then a civil war, then the collapse of the ideological foundation of your country, then you were forced to change. In the meantime, the US remains steady.

 

[Dungeness]

This is where you guys are wrong.

A sort of 'cold war' always exists whenever there are ideological conflicts, even when such a conflict exists only on the theoretical plane. If anything, awareness of the differences and internally created scenarios of 'for' and 'against' means a personal cold war is underway. What we know today of the 'Cold War' is scaled up of many personal internal conflicts.

There is no 'fixation' here, only an understanding of timeless politics and psyches.

Since you admitted "cold war" always exists, therefore the standard of "right or wrong" is dependent of one's political point of view. There will be no convergent, at national or personal level.

Please...

From what I have seen so far, it has been the Middle Kondom that have been unable to 'handle' what comes. You were surprised by the Euros, then the partition and exploitation of your country, then WW II, then a civil war, then the collapse of the ideological foundation of your country, then you were forced to change. In the meantime, the US remains steady.

Look who is talking?

Sure, the US remains steady, all is good, except China is fast rising, to the point that the US has to threat its allies every single opportunity it gets, just to screw China up. As old saying goes, if you can't compete with them, screw them. You see, the US can't even square off Taliban in 18 years, or NK or Iran, what makes you think it can force China to kowtow？

Honestly, this country has been in political in-fight for so long, and it has never developed a strategy to counter China until recently, but the problem is it's really about 20 years too late. Someone in the white house should really come up with a way to think "out of box".

 

[rott]

YOU may not, but past Chinese members of this forum had. Superior Chinese genes and IQ.

Compared to you, yes!