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HOW ARE INDIAN MUSLIMS TREATED IN INDIA

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you can talk about my country and write about whatever you want but when its a repeated offense just to incite hate then its crap and nothing more than that. Putting things in red font or all caps does not make what is wrong right. Many Indians have been banned over this so I dont understand why those rules do not apply on Pakistanis as well. And please watch your language, if its a free forum your not allowed to tell me to shut up as well as long as I am not breaking any forum rules.

Its a free forum but its still a pakistani forum. I dont know why you indians obsessed with pakistan on a friday night decide to come on here. We come cos we are pakistanis. You want to be pakistani?
 
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You incredible indians really dont have to come on p-a-k-i-s-t-a-n-i forum if you dont like the rules?

and how many rules you follow??
you bring always china in india threads??
where that rule goes at that time??:lol:
 
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those who wanted to leave,can surely go.. and leave us alone.

understood..??
So now you are showing your true colors........... So much for largest democracy :lol:...... pity
 
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Indian Muslims feel backlash:

The hostility between India and Pakistan could be fuelling dangerous divisions within Indian society.

As tension escalates, many Indian Muslims say they feel under constant suspicion, increasingly alienated from the Hindu majority.

Their sense of unease comes just three months after anti-Muslim violence in Gujarat, some of the worst Hindu-Muslim riots in recent history.

Concern is also growing about the anti-Muslim agenda of ultra-right Hindus.

Dr Rizwan Qaiser, a Muslim and academic focusing on inter-community relations, showed me his Muslim neighbourhood.

He says the area is about 90% Muslim. The remainder are Hindus who have lived here for centuries.

The concept of separate Muslim areas isn't new - but as the threat of war with Pakistan grows, many, like Dr Qaiser, say social divisions and ghettoisation are growing too.

"If I as a Muslim look for a house in mixed locality and approach a property agent, the moment he hears name of Muslim, he would say, 'Sorry, no room for you'," Dr Qaiser tells me.

"Number one you are not given access, number two you fear, number three you're not culturally comfortable - so these are the factors which finally go into making what you call ghettoisation and I'd call clustering together for a sense of security."

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Muslims say the current climate of hostility between Delhi and Islamabad has created a climate of suspicion amongst even close friends.

They feel under constant pressure to prove they're loyal to India, not Pakistan.

"It hurts me a lot, a lot," says Aftab Tayyab, a science student. "I cannot explain to you - it creates a sense of being alienated in this land."

He feels uneasiness from Hindu friends he's known since childhood.

"Whenever there is a cricket match between India and Pakistan - they always think we're supporting Pakistan and not India. Why so? We're as much Indian as they are.

Dr Mukarram Ahmed Mufti "When the tension escalates then this type of question comes more frequently - such as 'Do you support Pakistan?', 'You're going to have a war, what's your opinion about this?'

"I will always support India, why will I support Pakistan? This is our motherland."

His brother, Shadab, says he feels the same suspicion from friends.

"Some of my friends ask me: 'Do you have any relatives in Pakistan? We'll bring them back to India so we can attack Pakistan.'

"This sometimes makes me feel I do not belong to this country or I've been alienated by my friends."


Muslims 'tense'

At Fatehpuri Mosque, in the narrow, chaotic streets of the old city, thousands of Muslims come to worship and to study at the religious school.

But the community is tense.

Dr Mufti Mukarram Ahmed, the imam at the mosque, says he hears constant reports of harrassment by the Hindu majority - which have steadily worsened since the war on terrorism.

"They complain when we are passing through the Hindu areas.

"They say things like: 'Bin Laden is going', 'Bin Laden will be demolished', 'Bin Laden will be no more and the Muslims will be taught lessons'."

The vicious anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat three months ago sparked fresh fear.

Hindu mobs accused Muslims of being pro-Pakistan and ordered them to go back home.

The pleas of Muslims that India is their home are constantly questioned by the Hindu ultra-right.

'Alienation'

Dr Qaiser says the allegations and violence have sent shockwaves through Muslim communities.

"Muslims are terribly shocked, they've developed a strong sense of alienation and they're also fearful about the future.

Muslims have been shouting from the rooftop that we belong to the land as much as they do.

"We are in the process of integration but each time developments like Gujarat take place their sense of belonging to the land, and the system and to the wider society suffers a terrible setback."

That struggle to belong isn't helped by a lack of support from the central government, led by the pro-Hindu BJP.

It's refused to criticise the government in Gujarat - despite a series of independent reports accusing it of complicity in the killings.

For many Indian Muslims, the threat of war with Pakistan is just compounding a growing sense of insecurity and unease.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | India's Muslims feel backlash
 
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and how many rules you follow??
you bring always china in india threads??
where that rule goes at that time??:lol:

Get back on topic. Minorities are incredibly abused in india. what a shame
 
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Then they claim they are the biggest democracy and a secular state...
 
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@pakistanis,

if you want to pick up the nut cases then there are million issues in paksitan which are related to minorities,same goes for india.
 
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Let this be clear, Those who cannot stomach critique should refrain from dishing it out as well.
Who am I to talk about Big B's private life.. but you cant stop me from talking about it here.. as long as the rules arent broken.
Telling me I have no right to do so, is the cheapest display of low self esteem.

Not ONE post in this thread by Indians defended the status of Indian Muslims by proof.
All of you resorted to dragging in Pakistan, or indulging in personal critique of the member .. then even had the tenacity to question his right to post about it.
Why?
Are things REALLY that bad for Muslims in India.. I dont think so.. I had opened this thread to post a counter to the thread starter.. infact I found a disheartening display of low blows by the supposed senior members.

Desiman.. you think we treat you with bias.. why dont you ask my countrymen the number of messages they send me over how lenient we are.. because we wish to keep this forum fair.
Give me an alternate forum run by your esteemed countrymen that is even 1/100th this FaIr.
 
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i m not intersted in leaving forum:)
and its not your property..i spend my money on internet ..understood???

I dont know how to spell it but I can say the word baikarat applies to this guy. Back to topic Indians treat untouchable hindus badly as well so its not just muslims christians and sikhs
 
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Its a free forum but its still a pakistani forum. I dont know why you indians obsessed with pakistan on a friday night decide to come on here. We come cos we are pakistanis. You want to be pakistani?

He told us he comes on here to meet up with his Indian friends on here? What a sado!! He comes onto PDF to socialize with his Indian friends - of course he would be unable to meet his friend ANYWHERE else but PDF. What a clown. Now he wants to call the shots? I love Indians being on here and im sure Indians on the whole love being on here. I love a bit of banter and love debating but the constant slagging off of the host country established by desiman is not on. We should all take time out and calm down. PDF is a great place to be and is great fun - enjoy and stop slagging off the host then you will find no mud thrown back at you.
 
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@pakistanis,

if you want to pick up the nut cases then there are million issues in paksitan which are related to minorities,same goes for india.

Yes there are issue I agree, but issues are not backed by government unlike India..
 
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