History of Punjabis

[PakFactor]

No link to that city. My maternal grandmother was from Jalandar. Interestingly enough, Imran Khan’s maternal family also came from Jalandar when Pakistan was being created.

His mother’s family are burki pathans that originated from south Waziristan and their tribe settled in Jalandar. Apparently burki Pathans have their own language separate from Pashto called Ormur.

@Mirzali Khan

Did you guys hail from Mianwal, Jalandhar?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

After Arain’s revolted in 1857 we were barred from serving in the British Armed Forces — them white kanjars labeled us traitors on our own land (Lol), which I don’t care about my family still have pieces of weapons of some white British and British Indians my family killed as trophies. After this event the Brits basically relocated Arain’s to various parts and gave us land to develop and build communities, mostly in Punjab. At least we fought unlike others who continued to serve and were proud of useless British medals in WWI & WWII to be cannon fodders. (Note: this doesn’t take away from dirty eggs that are born in Arain households like Sajid Javed in UK etc).

My Nani’s cousin has an old french rifle that an english soldier traded him. Still works although it’s very very loud. Crows fly from miles away when we fire that thing.

Did you guys hail from Mianwal, Jalandhar?

Only my nani family, and I have no clue.

 

[Maula Jatt]

A lot of cities that had Muslim majorities were strongholds of Arains. Arains therefore saw the most bloodshed during partition thus explaining our hatred of Sikhs. Unlike other biradiris of Punjab there are no Sikh or Hindu Arains. All were Muslim and this why they all emigrated to Pakistan. Not all Arains come from Indian side though.

@Mirzali Khan

Your hero Pir Roshan was also a burki pathan from Jalandar.

Thier are many theories for why all arains are Muslims, it'll be interesting to explore the rabbit hole tbh , it always personally fascinated me

Genetically y'all cluster with the rest of us but are among the few clans with no non Muslim member, hell forget clans it's sometimes even hard to find sub clans with no non Muslims

I think after partition in 47 Hindus should have stayed in west Punjab and Muslim in east. Yeh population transfer ka plan pata nahin kis ka tha ? 100 percent Muslim area bananay k liye unka religion change kar detay

There was no "plan" it was killings that resulted in pop transfer

With no killings immu K might have been an Indian

 

[Maula Jatt]

Only noticeable thing that come up when I try to look for khokhar history. I used to think we were rajputs then I saw some land ownership documents and my father name had qaum jatt after it. So we jatt now.

I am kokhar too and we always considered ourselves Jutts, I don't know where this Rajput BS came from though

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Saini mali arain etc are same people yeh Hindu Sikh Muslim sab kuch hotay hain

Yeah whatever you say. You must be saini.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Maybe from here lol. But it might be that jatt is an ethnic group while rajput is a social class.
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Yeah probably sociol class thing
Jutt as in a race, people, tribal group and Rajput as a social status

People around me just say Jutt though

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Rajput means son of raja and jat means small farmer or someone who works in fields or looks after cattle. These are just social classes. In sa neechay phir artisan classes hain. Ancestry in sab logon ki same ha

Main saini nahin hon

Arain are not saini or mali or whatever the **** you are writing. We may have some link to Kambohs though.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Arain are not saini or mali or whatever the **** you are writing. We may have some link to Kambohs though.

Have you ever researched about the origins of Arain?, Like what's the reason why they have no non Muslims

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Saini

Arain

@B.K.N

Chakhai puddi dya, eh te nasaal hi koi hor’aa

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Have you ever researched about the origins of Arain?, Like what's the reason why they have no non Muslims

I don’t care that much. All I know is that we have sub clans too. Like my sub clan is ramay which mean archer. So somebody in our sub clan was an archer or something.

 

[SLY]

Here is my Theory

In Ancient times Punjab was known as the Madra Kingdom in west the Capital was Sagala which is modern day Sialkot this is why the Greeks wanted to capture because it was the Epic center of Punjab the Kingdom of Madra was founded by Madra who was the son Shibi and Aswapati was the grandson of King Shibi Aswapati's wife was from a minor tribe known as Malava. She was known as Malavi there was a region known as Malava / western Malla by Indo-Aryans they were a people from southern Punjab including today's Multan city (Mallorum Metropolis) and region, south of the confluence of the Jhelum ,Hydaspes for the Greeks, and Ravi,Hydraotes for the Greeks, rivers they are mentioned by ancient Greek historians in the Mallian Campaign of Alexander III of Macedon (Iskandar); Malada

You might have heard some Punjabis call them Malwa jatts definitely have link to this region



King Shibi was son of Ushinara is believed to be from the Anu race which is also known as Annunaki and no they were not Gods or descendants of Race of Gods that's what the google searches will tell you
Or the hindu texts but I do believe some text of the stories but not the god parts because we know there is only One creator of everything he doesn't have any children's or partners as we believe that there was hundred and twenty four thousand prophets were sent to all nations but people use to change the texts or use to take some prophets as gods just like we see it in the modern day

Ushinara since he is believed to be from the Anu Race which we know existed in the Ancient Sumer

Also known as Sumerian which was located in Mesopotamia modern day Iraq some the hindu text also date back to the same time as the sumerian and ancient Babylon times I do believe some Punjabis are descendants of Ancient sumerians linked by Ushinara

Sumerian farmers grew an abundance of grain and other crops, the surplus from which enabled them to form urban settlements. And we know Jatts like farming

The Sumerians referred to their land as Kengir, the 'Country of the noble lords' (𒆠𒂗𒄀, k-en-gi(-r), lit. 'country' + 'lords' + 'noble') as seen in their inscriptions.

A recent (2013) genetic analysis of four ancient Mesopotamian skeletal DNA samples suggests an association of the Sumerians with Indus Valley Civilization, possibly as a result of ancient Indus-Mesopotamia

since we know Indus civilization, also called Indus valley civilization or Harappan civilization, earliest known urban culture of the south asian subcontinent just like Sumerians are known as the earliest civilization in Mesopotamia so without a doubt I believe they had connection with each other

As we all know from the Quran all Human race started from the Adam from one person as this

This connection between the Punjabis and Sumerians is very old in my opinion not all Punjabis though since this sub continent is big and was connected so they got mixed up with other tribes also

 

[Maula Jatt]

Because British came to Pakistan after ruling India for a very long time so they started classifying native Punjabi tribes with Indian terms like jat and rajput. Just because they are converted Hindus they are jat. Some British officer wrote this about jat

“The Rajput, Sayad and Baloch tribes excluded, the cultivating and proprietary body
consists almost entirely of a vast number of agricultural tribes, each known by a different
name, but comprehended within the one universal term Jat. Ethnologically I am not sure
of my ground; but if these tribes are not Jat, who are they? They are all converted
Hindus. Of this there is no doubt, and all are engaged in agriculture or cattle-grazing.
Some of them are recognized as Jat; and appearance, customs and traditions they do not
differ from their unrecognized brethren. For statistical purposes it would be surely a
much more useful and convenient arrangement to class these agriculturists as Jat, though
they are not true Jats, whatever they may be, but only ploughmen and cattle-graziers.”

British bimbos can't even begin to comprehend our region

So who cares?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Arain come from western Pakistan, Iran, or Central Asia as that is where onions are believed to originate from.

https://www.onions-usa.org/all-about-onions/history-of-onions/

 

[Maula Jatt]

Arain come from western Pakistan, Iran, or Central Asia as that is where onions are believed to originate from.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

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It’s probably true which makes it funny.