History of Afghan betrayal , fraud and oppression on Pashtuns

[jamahir]

Apparently according to commie apologists, the Soviets had the right to dethrone and brutally murder Sardar Daud.

"Sardar Daud"... Come on, man.

As if that wasn't enough, they sent their 40th army to help their puppets who had zero support among the Afghan masses.

I posted on another thread some two weeks ago that the Soviets came on the invitation of the Afghan government. Just like the Syrian government of now. Or possibly the Venezuelan government in the coming days.

The foundations of this commie heaven were laid over the graves of thirty thousand people murdered in Pol e Charkhi.

You are mentioning that place for the second time. Can you please quote me a legitimate article for that number ?

Making three million refugees through indiscriminate bombing wasn't enough either.

You seem to watch Rambo films avidly.

But somehow, the Afghans don't have the right to resist foreign invasion according to these pseudo humanists.

Yeah, I am a pseudo humanist as compared to the overflowing-with-milk-of-human-kindness Taliban whose previous governance has not at all created to things like the lynching of Farkhunda Malikzada.

Whats even more amusing is the fact that these pea brains think that the enemies of the Taliban are going to open a bikini car wash in Kabul if the Taliban are finished. The height of delusions.

No one is talking about bikini car washes.

You don't support coups because of that otherwise Assad, Gaddafi and other dictators have banned other parties too.

I have said in other threads that Assad, after the war ends, has to ensure that a more and actual socialist ( true democracy ) system takes hold.

In Libya, the direct democracy system cancelled out the need for political parties.

LOL, you can't dictate other nation's policies.

But I can recommend.

Pakistan atleast did what it had to do unlike Afghan commies killing their own people at the behest of their Soviet overlords

"Killing their own people..." Now when have I heard that ? Oh yes, in 2003 and 2011. Iraq, Libya, Syria. And soon coming, Venezuela.

And yes, Afghan women in the 80s being trained in computers and an Afghan man going to a space station... All done by the very progressive "mujahideen".

 

[Naofumi]

I have said in other threads that Assad, after the war ends, has to ensure that a more and actual socialist ( true democracy ) system takes hold.

In Libya, the direct democracy system cancelled out the need for political parties.

Bro, you're as annoying as an religious fundamentalist who suggests their religion was/is the solution to everything.
No, Libya or Syria wasn't/isn't a democracy, I have explained it before.

But I can recommend.

Nope. They know their needs better than you.

 

[jamahir]

Bro, you're as annoying as an religious fundamentalist who suggests their religion was/is the solution to everything.
No, Libya or Syria wasn't/isn't a democracy, I have explained it before.

Tell me, how did you get the idea that Libya wasn't a democracy ? I have linked you to @TaiShang's thread before. And the late Hugo Chavez believed so too and thus adapted it for Venezuela.

Read these pages, taking time, and then tell me.

 

[Naofumi]

Tell me, how did you get the idea that Libya wasn't a democracy ? I have linked you to @TaiShang's thread before. And the late Hugo Chavez believed so too and thus adapted it for Venezuela.

Read these pages, taking time, and then tell me.

I have read it man, come on now.

Here was the conversation when you left it in between​

My point was that a despot is a despot, no matter if it's west-backed or not, many leftists in the west criticised Indonesia and it's relationship with the U.S. like they opposes the Vietnam war, this is not possible under a despot. On Pinochet, I agree with you.

It doesn't matter as despot replacing Islamist is no good news. Sisi remains a despot (look at the Wikipedia page itself) and no there was no consent in his coup and Sisi is west-backed too, Trump calls him "my favorite dictator".

That's the problem - the model is not replicable, it's needs a constant external aid to function. We may pick ideas from it but on a whole it's useless - if everyone receives aid in the world, then from where it will come?

While I appreciate the anti-Imperialist character of it (socialism rose there because of Imperialism in Latin America in the first place), the model itself is neither sustainable nor replicable, how non-oil rich countries can survive with it?

They underperformed continuously compared to the capitalist world. Each and every communist state failed.

On another note, a controlled and balanced capitalism with social democracy (like Sweden, Germany etc) is a good model. Also, the miracles in the far-east economies (Asian Tigers) are replicable models for fast and sustainable development for non-oil rich countries.


It was opportunistic, at least on the words of Mandela itself "We chose our partners in relation how they support our struggle".

That doesn't make Gaddafi a less of a despot; Saudi is also supporting many revolutions, did that make them any less despot? Iran supports Palestinian struggle, did that make Ayatollahs any less of a despot?

 

[Cliftonite]

"Sardar Daud"... Come on, man.



I posted on another thread some two weeks ago that the Soviets came on the invitation of the Afghan government. Just like the Syrian government of now. Or possibly the Venezuelan government in the coming days.



You are mentioning that place for the second time. Can you please quote me a legitimate article for that number ?



You seem to watch Rambo films avidly.



Yeah, I am a pseudo humanist as compared to the overflowing-with-milk-of-human-kindness Taliban whose previous governance has not at all created to things like the lynching of Farkhunda Malikzada.



No one is talking about bikini car washes.



I have said in other threads that Assad, after the war ends, has to ensure that a more and actual socialist ( true democracy ) system takes hold.

In Libya, the direct democracy system cancelled out the need for political parties.



But I can recommend.



"Killing their own people..." Now when have I heard that ? Oh yes, in 2003 and 2011. Iraq, Libya, Syria. And soon coming, Venezuela.

And yes, Afghan women in the 80s being trained in computers and an Afghan man going to a space station... All done by the very progressive "mujahideen".

Still can't get over that video of Farkhunda Malikzada.

 

[Naofumi]

Still can't get over that video of Farkhunda Malikzada.

And it happened because commies unstabilized their country.

 

[jamahir]

Still can't get over that video of Farkhunda Malikzada.

Do you have link ?

Never mind. I found the link.

And it happened because commies unstabilized their country.

Ha ha.

I have read it man, come on now.

Here was the conversation when you left it in between​

I don't think we are talking about the same link. Please go to the below link and create a thread that critiques the theory :

https://www.marxists.org/subject/africa/gaddafi/index.htm

 

[Psychic]

posted on another thread some two weeks ago that the Soviets came on the invitation of the Afghan government.

They invited themselves.

The lollypop given to the world was that the govt invited them. As if everyone was ignorant of the fact that it was the same puppet govt they themselves helped to install through force; by brutally murdering their president by sending in commandos.

Invading when the nation was already in turmoil due to an unpopular puppet regime being in power.

Yeah, I am a pseudo humanist as compared to the overflowing-with-milk-of-human-kindness Taliban whose previous governance has not at all created to things like the lynching of Farkhunda Malikzada.

Keep on cherry picking.

Perhaps the likes of Dostum are paragons of humanity to you people.

And keep on denying facts about poppy eradication and restoration of law and order which was the hallmark of Taliban rule in Afghanistan.

You really think that your commie friends never killed anyone... Perhaps you wanted Afghanistan to remain under constant civil war where warlords raped plundered and killed with impunity. Only the Taliban came to stop this bloodfest.

You seem to watch Rambo films avidly

There were three million of those who came in our country as refugees. They had really nasty things to say about the commie regime and its Soviet masters.

They weren't dropping flowers from their frogfoots and hinds.

Now when have I heard that ? Oh yes, in 2003 and 2011.

You are so desperate that you have started posting bunk.

My stance is crystal clear. I am against foreign invasion be it against Iraq or Afghanistan ....by the Soviets or by USA. Both behaved like Satan.

 

[Naofumi]

I don't think we are talking about the same link. Please go to the below link and create a thread that critiques the theory :

I don't give a zilch about the theory, I care if it ensures freedom, economy and the power to criticise decisions which it didn't as I pointed there.

 

[Psychic]

And yes, Afghan women in the 80s being trained in computers and an Afghan man going to a space station... All done by the very progressive "mujahideen".

Not even 0.000001pc of Afghanistan. PR stunt and nothing more. Somehow justifies murdering hundreds and thousands and displacing and maiming millions

And it happened because commies unstabilized their country.

I can post thousands of examples of his commie allies of 80s and US allies of today murdering, raping, maiming and killing innocent Afghans. All he found was one incident of excess committed by Talban and he is blowing trumpets all over the place now.

 

[Max]

small regions of iran

Hotak Pashtun Dynasty conquered almost whole Iran. They were bordering ottomans and were about to fight for Caliphate title but then they suffered a set back at the hand of Nader Shah i guess who was fighting for rebel Safavid Prince..

P.S. They defeated Ottomans too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman–Hotaki_War_(1722–1727)

 

[HttpError]

Thank you for making this thread to remind true pakistanis lest we forget the afghans treachery. What totally floors me is that the mad mullahs have so brainwashed people that they actually defend a outright enemy just because we happen to share the same faith.

Mark my words in the future if pakistan and India go to war the afghans will attack us, and again the shameful ummah chumma people will defend them.

But this Time Pakistan will capture Wakkan Corridor and other strategic locations and will annex them forever.

 

[jamahir]

I don't give a zilch about the theory, I care if it ensures freedom, economy and the power to criticise decisions which it didn't as I pointed there.

How will you know the 'criticize' part if you haven't read Taishang's thread and not replied there ? And even Elon Musk says that any near-future Mars colony should be governed by direct democracy. What will you say to him ?

You seem to be deciding this issue based on NATO calling someone a dictator.

Not even 0.000001pc of Afghanistan.

So don't you want that small percentage to be larger ? What would those so-called Mujahideen have achieved if they managed to come to power in the 80s ? What were the Taliban's actual achievements except to forcibly down music shops and barber shops ? And that talk of the Taliban destroying poppy crops is false. It is known that the Taliban have forced some farmers to grow poppy and they ( the Taliban ) did trade of this with the Americans.

PR stunt and nothing more.

Have you heard a bit about Namira Salim ?

 

[Naofumi]

How will you know the 'criticize' part if you haven't read Taishang's thread and not replied there ? And even Elon Musk says that any near-future Mars colony should be governed by direct democracy. What will you say to him ?

You seem to be deciding this issue based on NATO calling someone a dictator.

By judging him over objective parameters like the political murders he committed, simple is not it?

 

[Shapur]

If you want to know the intent of this poster then, just look at the opening statement. Stop trying to sew enmity between people.
Secondly, it's full of fabricated lies and one sided arguments with a specific agenda in mind. Can't be bothered to reply to this rubbish.