Hindu parliamentarian of Pakistan frustrated with abuse heaped on hindus in pakistan !

[Bombaywalla]

areesh,tumhein india mein sweeper ka bhi naukri nahi milega,IQ ki baat hi naa karein toh sahi.

I usually don't get into silly mud-slinging, but in this case, I have to agree with you, @vegav. The poster quoted in bold above has a questionable IQ - I know this from first hand experience.

 

[HariPrasad]

Because of Indians these poor guys have to face such behavior from equally stupid people. Pakistanis need to understand that Pakistani hindus are not the same as those low IQ, low intellect imbeciles from the east.

Here comes a high IQ person with display of his trolling intelligence .

 

[third eye]

Lessons in tolerance: MP ask colleagues not to denigrate Hindus in speeches - The Express Tribune

Voicing concern at the derisive tone of speeches in the lower house of parliament during the ongoing budget session, Hindu lawmakers on Saturday advised their colleagues in the National Assembly not to target the Hindu faith while criticising Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s policies towards Pakistan.

The budget session has increasingly been focused on Indian policies towards Pakistan in the wake of rising tensions between the two nuclear-armed states.

Lawmaker Lal Malhi pointed out to his colleagues that Hindus are also Pakistani citizens. “I was shocked to hear that MNA Jamshed Dasti and former prime minister Mir Zafaralluh Khan Jamali stating ‘Hindus are those who worship the cow,” he said.

“This is part of our belief. Why are they targeting our faith?” asked MNA Malhi in his remarks to The Express Tribune.

Deputy Speaker Javed Murtaza Abbasi pointed out that Malhi’s speech was going live on television. “I’m aware of the rules and business of the house and have great respect for senior lawmakers, too” Malhi replied.

“But I have been observing proceedings and speeches of fellow lawmakers for three to four days now and noticed that they questioned Hindus for worshipping cows. Yes, we worship the cow and will continue to do so because this is our right.”

“We are also Pakistanis. Why do we not say that Hindus are also Pakistanis,” he asked. “They want to curse India but they are cursing Hindus, too,” he added.

Addressing the National Assembly speaker, MNA Malhi asked. “It is not fair to question our faith. Yes, we respect, honour and adore cows.”

Despite his expectations, he said, lawmakers did not raise the issue of the abduction of a 14-year-old Hindu boy, Pawan, from Tando Allah Yar, Sindh. “Pawan was later converted forcefully. However, no one will speak about this incident,” he said. “What they [lawmakers] will do is that they will continue mocking us and this is unfortunate and unacceptable,” he said.

In one of his posts on social media, Kapil Dev, a rights activist from Sindh, stated: “PTI MNA Lal Malhi dared to call a spade a spade. This is how a Pakistani Hindu is treated here. In our jingoism with India, be it politicians or people, we quickly link all Hindus with India. All Indians are not Hindus and all Hindus are not Indians. There are over 200 million Muslims and other minority groups living in India. If you want to criticise and condemn India, please condemn the country, not the Hindu religion. We are Pakistanis and we don’t need a certificate of our patriotism from… anyone. Accept us as Pakistani Hindus.”

The Rights of Expression, Assembly, Association and Thought, a national coalition working for rights of minorities, urged the MPs to respect the diversity and other faiths in the country while commenting on Indian policies.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 22nd, 2015.

 

[Spring Onion]

Please convey that to those Pakistanis coming to India for medical treatment. We have shortage of doctors here, as it is.

If you have shortage of doctors then tell your Indian government to shut down Indian health tourism

 

[nForce]

If you have shortage of doctors then tell your Indian government to shut down Indian health tourism

We can't stop providing help to those who need it.

Also, we believe, "Atithi Devo Bhava".

But, if someone is out there who thinks there is more to loose coming to India then he may choose not to, the absence will not be felt. We are not exactly asking anybody to come here. Please don't impose yourself upon us.

 

[Nicky G]

The answer lies in the makeup of these refugees. Mostly, lower or lower middle class and not the large number of well off people that are staying. Again you quote 4000 odd people that too with Afghanistan combined. As for including BD we all know there is a illegal emigrant problem from there and that includes large number of muslims too. So don't lump us up with other countries to inflate the numbers. As I said there are 3 million members of this community, if they were in "mortal danger", they would be living in some UN camp being attacked by marauding hordes as what happens to real communities in mortal danger. On the contrary, the members of this community are studying in universities, becoming professionals, doing business and prospering, hardly what you would describe as being in mortal danger.

I asked for some statistical evidence not conjecture. Since you provided the latter, let me chime in too. Lower socioeconomic status also results in greater exposure to religious persecution. Thus, its natural that the refugees would belong to this group. That does not in any way indicate they are purely economic refugees.

You conveniently refused to address that there are 200K such refugees. 4K have been granted visa, that's not the total.

 

[ganesh177]

Wrong

He wouldn't even get the visa without showing his polio free certificate

Thats not enough.
He will also have to prove he have no filaments of terrorism inside his body before he enters into india.

 

[Bilal.]

I asked for some statistical evidence not conjecture. Since you provided the latter, let me chime in too. Lower socioeconomic status also results in greater exposure to religious persecution. Thus, its natural that the refugees would belong to this group. That does not in any way indicate they are purely economic refugees.

It's not a conjuncture, it IS statistical evidence. if a community is in "mortal danger" it would be equally for rich and poor. But somehow it's only the lower tier that's running away. Interesting.

You conveniently refused to address that there are 200K such refugees. 4K have been granted visa, that's not the total.

And you conviently forget that you are lumping together the numbers of "all" the neighbouring countries of India including Bangladesh that has huge number of refugees in india and then using it as a reflection on the status of "our" minority.

 

[Nicky G]

It's not a conjuncture, it IS statistical evidence. if a community is in "mortal danger" it would be equally for rich and poor. But somehow it's only the lower tier that's running away. Interesting.

Where is the evidence that these are economic refugees? Please cite some report to back that up.

Obviously that's not the case. Economic prosperity and fame is often times a firewall against persecution. The rich and affluent can afford to not be subjected to situations the down-trodden have no escape from.

And you conviently forget that you are lumping together the numbers of "all" the neighbouring countries of India including Bangladesh that has huge number of refugees in india and then using it as a reflection on the status of "our" minority.

I have never claimed 200K are from Pak alone, even distributing in proportion of population (given lack of direct actual figures) that figure would be obviously over 100K at the least. Is that insignificant?

I also asked you to provide me figures of Indian Muslims running over to Pak. Do you have any?

 

[Bilal.]

Where is the evidence that these are economic refugees? Please cite some report to back that up.

Obviously that's not the case. Economic prosperity and fame is often times a firewall against persecution. The rich and affluent can afford to not be subjected to situations the down-trodden have no escape from.

Hence proved that it's not a community in mortal danger or it would have no prosperous people, if even if someone managed they would be in equal danger. Case in point, rawanda, darfur, rohingya, etc.

I have never claimed 200K are from Pak alone, even distributing in proportion of population (given lack of direct actual figures) that figure would be obviously over 100K at the least. Is that insignificant?

I also asked you to provide me figures of Indian Muslims running over to Pak. Do you have any?

"would obviously be over 100k?" based on what? I am sure the huge chunk of it is BD refugees(due to huge BD illegal migrant issue already highlighted everywhere with overall total running in millions). If it was anywhere near that number your propaganda machine would be drumming that number day and night. Instead you're clubbing it all together and blaming the whole on Pakistan.

 

[Nicky G]

Hence proved that it's not a community in mortal danger or it would have no prosperous people, if even if someone managed they would be in equal danger. Case in point, rawanda, darfur, rohingya, etc.

What proof? Cite evidence that these are only economic refugees.

"would obviously be over 100k?" based on what? I am sure the huge chunk of it is BD refugees(due to huge BD illegal migrant issue already highlighted everywhere with overall total running in millions). If it was anywhere near that number your propaganda machine would be drumming that number day and night. Instead you're clubbing it all together and blaming the whole on Pakistan.

Straightforward and crude distribution in face of any more concrete facts.

Again, how many Muslims from India are running to Pak?

 

[Nicky G]

Modi will make Muslims the second happiest people just under we Indians. He is teaching us Yoga.

40+ Muslim countries participated in Yoga Day, its inception is Indian, but its now a global practice.

 

[Spring Onion]

We can't stop providing help to those who need it.

Also, we believe, "Atithi Devo Bhava".

But, if someone is out there who thinks there is more to loose coming to India then he may choose not to, the absence will not be felt. We are not exactly asking anybody to come here. Please don't impose yourself upon us.

You re charging them hence in most of the cases they are helping you in stabilizing your economy

Again, how many Muslims from India are running to Pak?

those poor souls dont even have resources to run

 

[Nicky G]

those poor souls dont even have resources to run

I rate that attempt at wit as a D.

 

[Bilal.]

What proof? Cite evidence that these are only economic refugees.

General economic class of the people migrating.

Straightforward and crude distribution in face of any more concrete facts.

Knowing well there are millions from BD moving into india, that's quite convenient to do an "crude distribution" and putting HAlF of all neighbours in the basket of Pakistan.

Again, how many Muslims from India are running to Pak?

First you tell me how many Pakistani Hindus running to India. All you are doing is lumping all neighbours' number and pinning it to Pakistan. For all we know, it might be a few hundred.