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Hindu nationalist killed in clashes at Indian celebration of Muslim ruler
By New York Times
Published: November 12, 2015

NEW DELHI: Tension between Hindus and Muslims flared anew in India on Tuesday when a Hindu nationalist in the southern state of Karnataka died from injuries he suffered while protesting a celebration honouring an 18th-century Muslim ruler.

The celebration, in the town of Madikeri, honoured the birth of Tipu Sultan, who was killed on May 4, 1799, while leading a battle against British troops who had come to crush his rule over a wide section of southern India.

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The death of the protester comes amid rising sectarian violence, most of it directed at Muslims by Hindus. For weeks, right-wing Hindus in Karnataka have been pressuring the government to cancel the event, arguing that Tipu Sultan was a Muslim tyrant who slaughtered Hindus or forcibly converted them to Islam. But the government refused, prompting Hindu nationalist groups to protest on Tuesday.

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Suresh Bopanna, a police official in Madikeri, said the presence of Hindu protesters alarmed local Muslim leaders, and soon after truckloads of Muslims began to arrive in force. The two groups clashed, stones flew and the police charged in to break up the melee.

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One Hindu activist, a farmer named Kuttappa, ran from the scene and sought safety atop a wall, police said, only to be struck by a stone, which sent him crashing to the pavement 20 feet below. Doctors said Mr. Kuttappa suffered a skull fracture and was dead on arrival at a hospital.

At least 20 others, including six police officers, suffered minor injuries, officials said, and police officers rushed in reinforcements to restore order. “At present, the situation is under control and peaceful,” Vartika Katiyar, a police superintendent, said in a telephone interview early Tuesday afternoon.

Qamarul Islam, minister of minority affairs in Karnataka, defended the decision to proceed with Tuesday’s celebration, the first time Karnataka has so honored the birth of Tipu Sultan. It was only right, he said, to celebrate a “visionary” like Tipu Sultan, given similar celebrations for heroes like Gandhi and Nehru. “Why not celebrate the birth anniversary of Tipu Sultan, the first freedom fighter of India?”

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Karnataka’s chief minister, S Siddaramaiah, also defended the celebration, telling reporters on Tuesday that the violence was provoked by hard-line Hindu nationalist activists associated with the Bharatiya Janata Party of Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

“What else do you expect from the BJP?” Siddaramaiah said, insisting that most people in Karnataka, Hindu and Muslim alike, supported the celebration.

Siddaramaiah, a member of the Congress party, depicted Tuesday’s violence as an outgrowth of what his party views as an intensifying campaign by the Bharatiya Janata Party and other Hindu nationalist groups to impose their religious, cultural and political values on all Indians. That campaign, which includes recent efforts to ban beef consumption, has touched off a bitter debate over whether Modi’s India is becoming increasingly intolerant of Muslims and other minority groups.

Modi’s critics have blamed rising intolerance for several recent acts of violence around the country. In August, MM Kalburgi, a rationalist scholar who enraged far-right Hindu nationalists with his criticism of idol worship, was gunned down in his home. In the months since, the police say, four Muslims have been killed by Hindu mobs because they were suspected of slaughtering, stealing or smuggling cows.

Minorities under attack

But on Tuesday, it was Bharatiya Janata Party officials who said they were the true victims of intolerance in Karnataka. One of them, Prathap Simha, a member of Parliament from Karnataka, accused Mr. Siddaramaiah of sponsoring the celebration to appease Muslim constituents, who make up about 12 percent of Karnataka’s population and tend to support the Congress party.

“There are so many other Muslim icons,” Simha said. “You can celebrate them, but how can you celebrate a Muslim tyrant?”

And Surendra Kumar Jain, a senior leader of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, the Hindu nationalist group to which Mr. Kuttappa belonged, said the group planned to expand protests throughout Karnataka. He accused the Karnataka government of encouraging Muslim aggression against Hindus by celebrating a Muslim leader who committed “lots of atrocities on Hindus.”

“And see the result,” he said, referring to Kuttappa’s death.

This article originally appeared on the New York Times, a partner of The Express Tribune.
 
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Let me repeat my post from a related thread.

Here is a difference I want to highlight.

Hindus do celebrate muslim rulers who were enlightened and good rulers. People like Akbar or razia sultana for example (nobody objects to naming Mi 35 after Akbar or Jija-bai class patrol vessels after Razia Sultana, Chand Bibi, Habbah Khatun etc). And obviously many hindus do celebrate even muslim controversial rulers like tipu (a serial after him was a huge success) and orangzeb (hence the controvercy).

But muslims, of the pakistani kind (mentally) however not only want to celebrate only muslim rulers, they only seek out muslim rulers who were intolerant and mass murderers and idol breakers (like timur, ghori, ghaznavi, abdali, orangzeb, tipu etc) and they actually ignore benevolent muslim rulers, like Akbar.

This extremely hateful nature of some muslims is the main reason of the religious mess in south asia.
 
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. People like Akbar or razia sultana for example. And obviously many hindus do celebrate even muslim controversial rulers like tipu and orangzeb (hence the controvercy).

I would not call Akbar or Razia Sultana as good examples either given they too had the notoriety of killing civilians by thousands and destroying temples. Vishawanath temple in Benaras was destroyed by Razia by the way.
 
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“There are so many other Muslim icons,” Simha said. “You can celebrate them, but how can you celebrate a Muslim tyrant?”
Because he hung 700 Hindus on this day.

700 Hindus families who could have voted for BJP had they been alive.

I would not call Akbar or Razia Sultana as good examples either given they too had the notoriety of killing civilians by thousands and destroying temples. Vishawanath temple in Benaras was destroyed by Razia by the way.
Actually Qutb built the Razia mosque. Not Razia herself. But yeah, ultimate result was the destruction of the holiest shrine in Benaras.
 
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Actually Qutb built the Razia mosque. Not Razia herself. But yeah, ultimate result was the destruction of the holiest shrine in Benaras.

First destroyed by Qutubuddin Aibek
- The rebuilt temple was destroyed by Razia Sultana and a masjid built
- Maharaja of Jaipur rebuilt the temple that was destroyed by Aurangazeb
- Maharani Ahalyabhai Holkar built the current Kasi Vishwanath Temple.
 
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First destroyed by Qutubuddin Aibek
- The rebuilt temple was destroyed by Razia Sultana and a masjid built
- Maharaja of Jaipur rebuilt the temple that was destroyed by Aurangazeb
- Maharani Ahalyabhai Holkar built the current Kasi Vishwanath Temple.
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The original temple, no trace of which exists any longer, is said to have been constructed more than 2000 years ago. It was razed to the ground by Qutb-ud-din Aibek who ransacked Varanasi in 1194. He built the Razia Mosque on thesite of the Vishwanath temple. The temple was rebuilt in 1585 by Todar Mal, the Revenue Minister of Akbar's Court. The temple was destroyed again, this time by Aurangzeb, in 1669, and in its place he built a mosque, using materials salvaged from the second Vishwanath temple and named it after himself, as the Great Mosque of Aurangzeb. Remnants of Todar Mal's temple can be Seen near the sacred Gyan-Vapi (well of Knowledge) which is adjacent to the present temple of Vishwanath.
 
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I would not call Akbar or Razia Sultana as good examples either given they too had the notoriety of killing civilians by thousands and destroying temples. Vishawanath temple in Benaras was destroyed by Razia by the way.

You may be factually right, but I hope you are not missing the point I am making.

The point I am making is that Hindus do not have a problem with Muslims as long as the general perception is that they were not obvious Hindu haters. Going into historical accuracy of the examples I gave would be digressing.

I wished to highlight this really unfortunate ''enemy making and enemy seeking'' behavior of some Muslims.
 
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So Tipu claims another hindu life hundreds of years after his death :tup:
 
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You may be factually right, but I hope you are not missing the point I am making.

The point I am making is that Hindus do not have a problem with Muslims as long as the general perception is that they were not obvious Hindu haters. Going into historical accuracy of the examples I gave would be digressing.

I wished to highlight this really unfortunate ''enemy making and enemy seeking'' behavior of some Muslims.

Basically, you are asking them to go against their DNA. It is only in the non-observant/illiterate Muslims do you see a lack of animosity towards non-Islamic groups. The more educated they get and the more knowledgeable about Koran and their religion, the contempt for others increases.
 
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The original temple, no trace of which exists any longer, is said to have been constructed more than 2000 years ago. It was razed to the ground by Qutb-ud-din Aibek who ransacked Varanasi in 1194. He built the Razia Mosque on thesite of the Vishwanath temple. The temple was rebuilt in 1585 by Todar Mal, the Revenue Minister of Akbar's Court. The temple was destroyed again, this time by Aurangzeb, in 1669, and in its place he built a mosque, using materials salvaged from the second Vishwanath temple and named it after himself, as the Great Mosque of Aurangzeb. Remnants of Todar Mal's temple can be Seen near the sacred Gyan-Vapi (well of Knowledge) which is adjacent to the present temple of Vishwanath.
The Varanasi Heritage Dossier/Vishvanatha (Vishveshvara) temple - Wikiversity
The first original site of Vishveshvara or Vishvanatha (Golden) Temple is an issue of historical investigation. However it is accepted that the first destruction took place in 1194 by the order of Qutb-ud-din Aibak, including demolishing the temple of Visheshvara which was at the presently existing Razia Mosque. During her reign Razia Sultana (1236-1240) had built a mosque on the deserted site of the above temple. By the end of 13th century the Visheshvara temple was built in the compound of Avimukteshvara, and continued till the next destruction under the control of Sharqi kings of Jaunpur (1436-1458).
 
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But muslims, of the pakistani kind (mentally) however not only

Please keep Pakistan out of your internal problems. Thank you. We have nothing to do with this matter. Whatever mentality Indian Muslims or Hindus show, it is the mentality of an Indian citizen and hence Indian by default. Good or bad, own it please.
 
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Please keep Pakistan out of your internal problems. Thank you. We have nothing to do with this matter. Whatever mentality Indian Muslims or Hindus show, it is the mentality of an Indian citizen and hence Indian by default. Good or bad, own it please.

Sorry, the mentality of only honoring muslims who slaughtered hindus, forcibly circumcised them, raped their women and destroyed their temples, even when those ''heroes'' never set foot on one's nation is being discussed, NOT Pakistan as such.

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