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High powered Italian delegation to Visit Pakistan for Trade and Investment

So much for Isolation huh India ? lolz
 
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Dang it! We need to stop this progression of the country!

Imran Khan! Quickly, do something!
 
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Unfortunately, all these political quagmires happen at such intervals. Do we allow the 50-70% corruption of PML(N) and let such positive developments come in peace? or do we let this anti-corruption world continue in this unstable impression and drive away such opportunities?.

Decisions Decisions for Mall Road..
 
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Unfortunately, all these political quagmires happen at such intervals. Do we allow the 50-70% corruption of PML(N) and let such positive developments come in peace? or do we let this anti-corruption world continue in this unstable impression and drive away such opportunities?.

Decisions Decisions for Mall Road..
what is more beneficial in the long run should be taken into consideration. Pakistan has a history of not looking beyond and It's time to break that train of thought. Therefore. with rampant corruption occuring in every inch of the nation, such positive developments do not make a difference but boost the egos of some people. Until the common man sees real change this will continue.
 
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what is more beneficial in the long run should be taken into consideration. Pakistan has a history of not looking beyond and It's time to break that train of thought. Therefore. with rampant corruption occuring in every inch of the nation, such positive developments do not make a difference but boost the egos of some people. Until the common man sees real change then this will continue.
Depends if someone in Pakistan could take the net present value of each path and decide on that rather than emotions.
 
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Depends if someone in Pakistan could take the net present value of each path and decide on that rather than emotions.
I agree. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a political leader which will look at the situation that way. IK, in my opinion, has portrayed himself as an extremely power hungry individual and NS, well we know his history.
 
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I agree. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a political leader which will look at the situation that way. IK, in my opinion, has portrayed himself as an extremely power hungry individual and NS, well we know his history.
That is exactly what it is. There is no Malcom X in Pakistan but plenty of Elijah Mohammads.
 
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I think the majority of civilised Indians, and we are not a small number, will endorse this view.

There are other views.

That is only centralised on the methods adopted by Pakistan to instigate India, However, that is an anther topic altogether. The thread is about Pakistan and Italy - Hope that this is a long-term investment in trade relations and not a knee jerk reaction!
 
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That is only centralised on the methods adopted by Pakistan to instigate India, However, that is an anther topic altogether. The thread is about Pakistan and Italy - Hope that this is a long-term investment in trade relations and not a knee jerk reaction!

As you said, that is another topic, and one best left to fester in its own filth. I, too, hope for the sake of all of us that this is a long-term investment. It is not clear, however, why the Italians should be jerking their knees.
 
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As you said, that is another topic, and one best left to fester in its own filth. I, too, hope for the sake of all of us that this is a long-term investment. It is not clear, however, why the Italians should be jerking their knees.

It's a speculative one but our relations have strained a bit with the whole fiasco of Italian Marines murdering our fisherman and us taking them to court, the corruption scandals and putting their defense companies on trial for defense-related bribes i.e. Finmeccanica

correct me if I am wrong but, its just opportunism at best!
 
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It's a speculative one but our relations have strained a bit with the whole fiasco of Italian Marines murdering our fisherman and us taking them to court, the corruption scandals and putting their defense companies on trial for defense-related bribes i.e. Finmeccanica

correct me if I am wrong but, its just opportunism at best!

There is that. I was hoping against hope that they would be a little more mature than that. Sometimes south Europeans act like third world people. That's how these utter imbeciles are behaving now. I could so wish that they'd grow up.
 
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There is that. I was hoping against hope that they would be a little more mature than that. Sometimes south Europeans act like third world people. That's how these utter imbeciles are behaving now. I could so wish that they'd grow up.

It's in their hereditary, history has a way of repeating itself! you know who supported the Nazi's in the time of peril! Italians are just a bunch of spoiled momma's boys!
 
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It's in their hereditary, history has a way of repeating itself! you know who supported the Nazi's in the time of peril! Italians are just a bunch of spoiled momma's boys!

Historically, I have a lot to say to that, not contradicting you, but refining some of your sequences.

However, the topic here is more pointed, as it affects the immediate future of both our nations. I hope that good trading relations will happen, and that a resurgent economy will take the deep state's mind off macho point-scoring in a zero-sum game. If they think about how much money they can make, that will - sorry, may - persuade them to calm down and cool off, and stay off the tit-for-tat nonsense that is going on at the borders.
 
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Pakistanis are twisting the meaning of 'isolation' purposefully or ignorantly.
India is not trying to isolate Pakistan on the grounds of trade and commerce, that is not even possible.
India is trying to isolate Pakistan on the grounds of terrorism and you can very well see that the endevour has been quite successful so far by that leaked report in Pakistani media for which the Pakistani Army is going gung-ho on their media and civil establishment....

Here is the leaked report....
http://www.dawn.com/news/1288350
Note the name of the Journalist...and here is what they're doing to him.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...a-dawn-exit-control-list-161010204921917.html

The purpose of the isolation is to beat Pakistan in their own game, Pakistan had been crying that they are victim of terrorism while supporting terrorism (against India) themselves, India wants to make sure that the world point out this duplicity instead of showing empathy and criticize India when Pakistan goes crying to the world against Indian retaliation, this is the ISOLATION and it's happening.
Whenever Pakistan goes crying to UN, US against so called 'Indian sponsored terrorism', they point out to the likes of Masood Azhar, Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi etc. residing in Pakistan and waging war against India, this is becoming embarrassing to the Pakistani diplomats and hence they are requesting their Army to take action but the Army is adamant, as they don't face such embarrassment as they don't have to deal with the outside world directly on such issues.
 
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