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On the eve of a deadline in nuclear talks between six world powers and Iran, Lebanon’s militant Shiite Hezbollah organization has revealed that it has acquired advanced Iranian missiles with “pinpoint accuracy” that it could use against Israel in any future war.


“They [the Israelis] are well aware that Hezbollah is in possession of missiles with pinpoint accuracy, and thanks to the equipment Hezbollah acquired, and with the Islamic Republic’s support and Hezbollah’s readiness for any future war, [the next] war will be much tougher for the Israelis,” Naim Qassem, the deputy head of Hezbollah, said in an interview with Iran’s Tasnim news agency.

Mr. Qassem’s comments on Hezbollah’s enhanced missile capabilities and the threat they pose to Israel came amid waning hopes that a deal could be struck by a Monday deadline in Vienna between Iran and the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council – Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States plus Germany, the so-called P5+1. The six leading nations want Iran to curb its uranium enrichment capacity, which could be used to make nuclear weapons, in exchange for a lifting of international sanctions.

By late Sunday, negotiators were reportedly looking for a way to extend the talks beyond the deadline.

Watching the Vienna talks closely from the sidelines is Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has said he is concerned that any final deal between the P5+1 and Iran will be insufficient to curb what he says is Iran’s goal of building nuclear weapons. Iran says its nuclear program is for civilian use only.

In an Israeli cabinet meeting Sunday, Mr. Netanyahu said that Israel is delivering a “firm stance” to its allies in insisting that Iran should not be allowed to become a “nuclear threshold state”.

“Therefore, no deal would be preferable to a bad deal that threatens Israel, the Middle East and all of humanity,” he said.

If there is no diplomatic breakthrough in Vienna, the drumbeat for military action against Iran will almost certainly be heard once more, raising tensions in a region already ravaged by conflict and radicalism.

Over the past decade, Iran has turned Hezbollah into a powerful military force with weapons capabilities unmatched by any other non-state actor. In May, a top Israeli army general said Hezbollah’s arsenal “would not shame any army in the world”.

Iran’s considerable military and financial investment in Hezbollah is intended to bolster Iran’s deterrence against a possible attack on its nuclear facilities. If Israel chooses to bomb Iran’s nuclear plants, it must first assess the response of Hezbollah in neighboring Lebanon.

The stronger Hezbollah’s military capabilities, the greater the stakes for Israel in launching an attack on Iran. Twenty years ago, Hezbollah’s arsenal of unguided 12-mile range rockets allowed it to pepper parts of northern Israel only. Today, the missiles suspected to be in Hezbollah’s arsenal could slam half a tonne of high-grade explosive into specific targets in Tel Aviv, such as the Israeli defense ministry or Ben Gurion International Airport.

Two weeks ago, a senior officer in Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said that Iran had provided Hezbollah with its indigenously produced Fateh A-110 short-range ballistic missiles.

“Considering the range of their [Hezbollah’s] missiles, they are able now to attack targets from southern to northern parts of the occupied territories [Israel],” said Brigadier General Sayed Majid Moussavi, the IRGC’s air defense commander, according to a report by the Iranian Fars news agency.

The specific missile system to which Moussavi and Hezbollah’s Qassem referred is likely to be the 4th-generation version of the Fateh which has a range in excess of 186 miles and can carry a 1,430 pound warhead. Armed with that missile, Hezbollah could launch it from its camouflaged bases in southern Lebanon and hit Israel’s nuclear reactor at Dimona in southern Israel, 140 miles south of the border with Lebanon, achieving a degree of reciprocity for any Israeli air strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities.
 
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@500 How much of a threat Fateh-110 pose to mainland Israel?

Tel Aviv, Northern Israel, Central district, Israel's only international air port, all major sea ports, and Jerusalem are well-within the range of Fateh-110

Can Iron Dome handle Fateh-110 or other defense systems are needed for such weapons?
 
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@500 How much of a threat Fateh-110 pose to mainland Israel?

Tel Aviv, Northern Israel, Central district, Israel's only international air port, all major sea ports, and Jerusalem are well-within the range of Fateh-110
I guess they will manage to kill dozens of people and paralyze the economy. The amount of damage to infrastructures depends on luck factor.

Can Iron Dome handle Fateh-110 or other defense systems are needed for such weapons?
Iron Dome designed against artillery rockets up to 100 km range. 300 km Fateh is way too big for Iron Dome.

Arrow-2 probably could be used, although its optimized against larger targets like Scud and Shahab.

The best solution if David's Sling which is currently in final stages of development.

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Overall attacking Israel will be a suicide for Hezbollah now.
 
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Overall attacking Israel will be a suicide for Hezbollah now.
with uncle sam backing u dont think any one will be stupid enough to attack israel
 
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I guess they will manage to kill dozens of people and paralyze the economy. The amount of damage to infrastructures depends on luck factor.


Iron Dome designed against artillery rockets up to 100 km range. 300 km Fateh is way too big for Iron Dome.

Arrow-2 probably could be used, although its optimized against larger targets like Scud and Shahab.

The best solution if David's Sling which is currently in final stages of development.

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Overall attacking Israel will be a suicide for Hezbollah now.

Hezbollah will not attack Israel first, but if Israel wants another adventure like 82, it would be also a suicide for Israel. This time, things will be much more different compared to 2006 and I'm sure as always, Israel will kill much more civilians compared to its enemies, but it will also suffer from huge damages.
 
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I guess they will manage to kill dozens of people and paralyze the economy. The amount of damage to infrastructures depends on luck factor.


Iron Dome designed against artillery rockets up to 100 km range. 300 km Fateh is way too big for Iron Dome.

Arrow-2 probably could be used, although its optimized against larger targets like Scud and Shahab.

The best solution if David's Sling which is currently in final stages of development.

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Overall attacking Israel will be a suicide for Hezbollah now.


Won't Indo Israel LRSAM will do the Job?
i believe it has some BMD capabilities as well.
 
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Hezbollah will not attack Israel first
They learned lesson from 2006 well.

This time, things will be much more different compared to 2006
Not really. Again Hezbollah will fire rockets at Israeli civilians while hiding behind own civilians. Just scale will be different.

Israel will kill much more civilians compared to its enemies, but it will also suffer from huge damages.
If our enemies will stop storing, firing rockets from populated areas, transporting rockets in civilian cars etc then their population wont be hurt.

Won't Indo Israel LRSAM will do the Job?
i believe it has some BMD capabilities as well.
LRSAM is designed vs cruise missiles. Did not hear about ballistic targets.
 
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I guess they will manage to kill dozens of people and paralyze the economy. The amount of damage to infrastructures depends on luck factor.

Well, that doesn't sound good for you...does it?

70% of Israel's population, 80% of Israel's entire industry, and all of Israel's airports and trading sea ports are located in central district (Tel Aviv Area)...

Hezbollah now has the capacity to do concentrated bombardment/rocket-fire on central tel aviv...

Things aren't looking good for you..

If the war with Hezbollah goes for a month, and Israel fails to stop Hezbollah's fire...then you guys are in for a big, big trouble..

And not to mention, Hamas is all set to win the elections in West Bank as well, as PA popularity hits rock bottom..


Iron Dome designed against artillery rockets up to 100 km range. 300 km Fateh is way too big for Iron Dome.

I thought Iron Dome's working capacity depended on the speed..and you said Iron Dome could intercept missiles traveling at MACH 7? Fateh 110 travels at MACH 3.5 to 4..


The best solution if David's Sling which is currently in final stages of development.

How is david sling different that ARROW, PATRIOT-III etc?
 
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Well, that doesn't sound good for you...does it?

70% of Israel's population, 80% of Israel's entire industry, and all of Israel's airports and trading sea ports are located in central district (Tel Aviv Area)...

Hezbollah now has the capacity to do concentrated bombardment/rocket-fire on central tel aviv...

Things aren't looking good for you..

If the war with Hezbollah goes for a month, and Israel fails to stop Hezbollah's fire...then you guys are in for a big, big trouble..

And not to mention, Hamas is all set to win the elections in West Bank as well, as PA popularity hits rock bottom..
Lets say Hezbollah has 100 Fateh-110 rockets. Thats 100*0.5=50 tons of payload.

Israel can deliver 400 jets x 5 t x 3 sorties a day x 30 days = 180,000 tons of payload.

So who is in big trouble? And thats before David's sling which will shot down most of the rockets. I remind u that Hezbollah is surrounded by 15 million Sunnis who hate them.

I thought Iron Dome's working capacity depended on the speed..and you said Iron Dome could intercept missiles traveling at MACH 7? Fateh 110 travels at MACH 3.5 to 4..
I never said Iron Dome intercepts 7 Mach.

Fateh 110 has over 5 Mach speed.

How is david sling different that ARROW, PATRIOT-III etc?
David's Sling is similar to Patriot PAC 3 but much cheaper. Arrow is much bigger missile which is designed to intercept Scuds and Shahabs.
 
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Lets say Hezbollah has 100 Fateh-110 rockets. Thats 100*0.5=50 tons of payload.

Israel can deliver 400 jets x 5 t x 3 sorties a day x 30 days = 180,000 tons of payload.

You really didn't need to bring up Israel's firepower superiority.

Hezbollah isn't a "state" remember...It is an insurgent group...

Where will you drop 180,000 tons of payload? Yup, on Lebanese civilians. Would that solve anything? Or make the insurgence even worse?

David's Sling is similar to Patriot PAC 3 but much cheaper. Arrow is much bigger missile which is designed to intercept Scuds and Shahabs.

Patriot PAC 3 can also intercept SCUDS and Shahabs...
 
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Iran said to give Hezbollah missiles that 'can reach Dimona' | The Times of Israel
Uzi Rubin, a missile expert and former Defense Ministry official, told the Associated Press in May last year that Fateh-110 rockets would constitute a “game-changer” if they were to fall into the wrong hands.

Launched from Syria or south Lebanon, such missiles could reach almost anywhere in Israel with high accuracy, he noted in response to reports of Israeli strikes around Damascus.

“If fired from southern Lebanon, they can reach Tel Aviv and even [the southern city of] Beersheba,” Rubin said.

The rockets are five times more accurate than the Scud missiles that Hezbollah has fired in the past, according to Rubin.

“It is a game-changer because they are a threat to Israel’s infrastructure and military installations,” he said.
 
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You really didn't need to bring up Israel's firepower superiority.

Hezbollah isn't a "state" remember...It is an insurgent group...
They were state within a state, now they control state and are a state.

Where will you drop 180,000 tons of payload? Yup, on Lebanese civilians. Would that solve anything? Or make the insurgence even worse?
There are plenty of targets in Lebanon. We will give civilians time to evacuate.

Patriot PAC 3 can also intercept SCUDS and Shahabs...
Stunner can do everything what PAC 3 can do, even better.

Raytheon-Rafael Pitch 4th-Gen Patriot System | Defense News | defensenews.com
 
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I guess they will manage to kill dozens of people and paralyze the economy. The amount of damage to infrastructures depends on luck factor.
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It won't kill anybody neither would it paralyze the economy. Hezbollah has no bank of targets either besides recognized ones. It doesn't know where Israeli drone production facilities are nor their runways. It can maybe hit headquarters which would empty and easily rebuilt. If it even manages to destroy the building which is doubtful. These weapons are 30 year old artillery weapons and they have no more than 10-20. Anyone that claims they were game changers is feeding into propaganda that the IDF wishes to project amongst international community that doesn't work at all.

There are plenty of targets in Lebanon. We will give civilians time to evacuate.

This doesn't exonerate Israel from its actions. Quit being cowards and fight the fight with an enemy overwhelmingly under armed in comparison to you. If you repeat actions in Gaza in Lebanon than you will be condemned for civilian deaths because unneccassary force with intention purely to kill is called democide. And let's hope this time Amreekah doesn't re-arm Israel. It used all of its munitions available in Gaza and Hamas still managed to hold vast majority of Gaza.

Evacuating in border cities means further cities will increase in pop. density and that means you won't be able to occupy land deeper in without committing genocide. And Israel will take one border area, claim it achieved objectives and withdraw because it can't go any further. So objective would be to kill 2,000-3-000(magnittude of 9/11 attacks) in order to terrorize the people of the region and remind them that you have last say in all matters(Gas fields, occupation, political rights of others, etc..).

And of course this is all pointless discussion because we know you will return to attack defenseless besieged Gaza which is in middle of humantarian crisis.



Lets say Hezbollah has 100 Fateh-110 rockets. Thats 100*0.5=50 tons of payload.

Israel can deliver 400 jets x 5 t x 3 sorties a day x 30 days = 180,000 tons of payload.

Israel will not use 400 jets, be realistic, it can't fit more than 60 in the area.

Fateh 110 has over 5 Mach speed.

Weren't you saying that 50 year old north korean small grad rocket had mach 5 speed? :lol:
 
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It won't kill anybody neither would it paralyze the economy. Hezbollah has no bank of targets either besides recognized ones. It doesn't know where Israeli drone production facilities are nor their runways. It can maybe hit headquarters which would empty and easily rebuilt. If it even manages to destroy the building which is doubtful. These weapons are 30 year old artillery weapons and they have no more than 10-20. Anyone that claims they were game changers is feeding into propaganda that the IDF wishes to project amongst international community that doesn't work at all.
* Fateh-110 are neither artillery, nor old. Hezbollah has some 100 of them, probably more.
* Fajr-5 and M302 which were used by Hamas are artillery, but not old. Hezbollah will use them in insane numbers.

If there was no Iron Dome the Israeli economy would be paralyzed in recent conflict. Hamas fired rockets twice a day at Tel Aviv.

This doesn't exonerate Israel from its actions. Quit being cowards and fight the fight with an enemy overwhelmingly under armed in comparison to you. If you repeat actions in Gaza in Lebanon than you will be condemned for civilian deaths because unneccassary force with intention purely to kill is called democide. And let's hope this time Amreekah doesn't re-arm Israel. It used all of its munitions available in Gaza and Hamas still managed to hold vast majority of Gaza.
Yalla, lets go to open field and fight face to face.

Evacuating in border cities means further cities will increase in pop. density and that means you won't be able to occupy land deeper in without committing genocide. And Israel will take one border area, claim it achieved objectives and withdraw because it can't go any further. So objective would be to kill 2,000-3-000(magnittude of 9/11 attacks) in order to terrorize the people of the region and remind them that you have last say in all matters(Gas fields, occupation, political rights of others, etc..).

And of course this is all pointless discussion because we know you will return to attack defenseless besieged Gaza which is in middle of humantarian crisis.
Dont know what u are babbling there.

Israel will not use 400 jets, be realistic, it can't fit more than 60 in the area.
LOL. We can use more than 400 jets.

Weren't you saying that 50 year old north korean small grad rocket had mach 5 speed? :lol:
No, I did not say that.
 
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