Here’s Why The Indian Army’s New War Doctrine ‘Cold Start’ Is Giving Jitters To The World

[Neemo neemo]

Now, It's been a while since I last logged in. As I really try to read more than to comment on some stupid, ridiculous, nonsense and incendiary comments. But, when I read this article I asked myself literary enough is enough.

Let me answer you on behalf of 180 Million Pakistanis. First of all your Country fellow said that " A smaller battle group will move quicker and push into Pakistani territory within hours, preventing the enemy from launching a counter attack". How about if I tell you that I live in Lahore and that before even your so called quick, mighty battle groups touches the borders of our Land we will screw that quick response battle group more even quicker than you can imagine. How would you feel if I tell you that more than a million People are ready 24/7 for any response against Indian aggression? They will be more than happy to die for their Country in a min than you can think off in hundred years? A best example for you is my village, where we have anti aircraft guns, anti tank missiles, millions of rocket launchers, millions of weapons ammunition that we have stored for this battle bw India and Pakistan.


And how would you feel that if I myself come to your city, your town and your street where you live and tell you that we have gained the control over all Indian territories what do you wana say now about this? and if you challenge me on this that I am bluffing than let me ask you this, if you dare than send me your address and I prove you with pleasure because it ain't gonna happen in hundred years its gonna happen in probably couple of years.



Secondly, you have said that "Pakistan is believed to be working on tactical nukes that are designed for use in the battlefield. Whether Pakistan has the ability to miniaturize the size of nukes is debatable, but what is known for sure is that this is meant to counter India’s conventional military superiority". Let me clarify you on something really important, for us, superiority means nothing. We fight with dignity and we have faith that hold us together and that we know that this world is just a temporary and we are being examine by our lord in every step we take. We do not care what you have, you had several hundred tanks in 65 war, and what we had? we had only 150 and didn't we beat yours a** that time? If I get a chance to fight this battle which is coming soon bw us, I will need no tank, no armour, no missile, no plane, no warheads, just an Ak-47 will do for me, and I swear to my sweet Lord that I will definitely score several hundred before you black a** get me for good.


What Pakistan has and what Pakistan is capable of neither you nor the world has any Idea. History is evident that we never pose threat to any Nation in the entire world. We know that the only mistake we have done is that we have become a Nuclear Power being an Islamic state. You guys everyday make excuses that Pakistan has done this and done that, and these cheap shots of your's does no damage to us, because whenever you cheap shot us your moral values and your image in International arena wobbles. Because cowards have nothing else except to cheap shot someone. But, who cares what the world thinks to hell with the entire world. You certainly cannot make everyone happy. As far as India and USA is concerned than I consider India as a w**re and US as its Pim*, and Israel as its do*.


Finally, your writer said that "The problem with tactical nukes is that they have to be kept ready for quick deployment and kept closer to the battlefield. The control too won’t be with the political leadership, but the local commander. That these nukes can be fired at the discretion of a ‘rogue’ General, or be stolen by the ever-present terrorist outfits are just some of the possibilities". bla bla bla, Well if that's the case than tell me you idiots, does it really matters that who triggers these tactical nukes? I mean if you are referring Taliban, than let me clarify you on this, India whenever threatened Pakistan Taliban's have always stood up beside Pakistani Army. We may have thousands of things different than us, we may not like each other as if I wear jeans and Taliban wears turban. But we are together on one simple thing, to end the story of this so called mighty Military Country. Because if even lets think out of the context that the Taliban do get their hands on one of the triggers would they bomb Pakistan where their thousands of mates are located? they are not that crazy that you think, and that they die for nothing. They fight against Pakistani Army because Pakistani Army listens to US's do more do more Poems. And India's arrest terrorists arrest terrorists fairy tales. I am talking about Taliban, not BLA or some other ridiculously filthy ps** drinking inhabitants of the Uranus planet. Don't take me wrong on that.


That was the answer of some of the stupid points in an article written by some immature dumb writer.


Now here is my answer, you know that there are millions of young and old Muslims not only in Pakistan but in entire world including me who count every day every hour and every min that when this war I mean the war bw India and Pakistan will escalate. And they do arrangements for it every day, like I do. It is written that there will be a battle between the two forces and that the Muslims will gain control on the entire region i-e Indian region and Muslims will be victorious. And who ever shall fight in that battle will find a special place in heaven. Now I know that many of you do not believe in Heaven, but we do. And we believe more than you believe in your own hand made gods.


I swear to my beloved Lord that every morning I wake up I try to find this news that have we been attacked? And everyday my days goes in vain and I get disappointed that why isn't this happening? When will this happen? And off course Pakistan will not be the one who will start it but Pakistan certainly will be the one who will finish it. If in the middle we will receive a call from our commanders that to stop fighting and return to your Country. I swear to God I will not obey their order until I capture every bit of land in India or die capturing it.


You always think that you are a Country with one Billion Population and that you have a mighty Army and bla bla bla and shi* shi* shi* and that we are only 180 Million, no we are not we are nearly 2 Billion if you multiply 180 million with 10. If you know what I mean? This time we will not let you live, we will not let you stand again till the dooms day, we will not show mercy, neither will we spare any soldier. There will be no War prisoners.


How would you handle millions of People who are ready to sacrifice for their religion? Just in my village we have 1.3 Million People and everyone of them including women, old fellas and children are ready to fight against you. How would you stop them from lying down under your tanks? How would stop them from blowing themselves in your command posts? How would you react when a tsunami of millions enters in your Country and search for every soldier?


We live for that day, and do not try to write something that humiliate you in front of the entire world. This time there will be no retreat no surrender. So next time before you post an article in here think about it dozens of time. Pakistan's Nation is not in deep sleep. We do not rely on our Military neither we ever think that they will be the first one's to respond. We the People of Pakistan get our weapons and say Allah o Akbar, rest what happens in battle is all in the hands of Almighty.

Dude, You need to visit a shrink.

@WebMaster, @Jungibaaz @Oscar Please help this dude.

 

[Omega007]

In the five wars that India has fought since independence, the country’s political leadership has mostly undone all the gains that were made by the Armed Forces. Whether it’s the UN mandated ceasefire in 1949 or going back to status quo on the western front after the 1971 war. Naturally, the enemy never learnt the lesson and changed tactics to state sponsored terrorism. With no clear responses devised; political, economical or military, the enemy has been able to follow the ‘bleed through a thousand cuts’ practice with impunity. Not for long though.

Cold crank

Although the government won’t say whether it exists or not, reports say the Indian Army has a new war doctrine called the ‘Cold Start’. Think of it as a quick fire response to any enemy action. Why is it needed? The answer to that is that the Indian Army is so huge that it takes days for it to mobilise. After the December 2001 attack on the Indian Parliament, the Army launched Op Parakram, which was a buildup of forces on the border in order to bleed Pakistan economically. Unfortunately, the mobilisation was so slow, that by the time the troops reached the forward deployment, a diplomatic initiative was already underway.

The result: Mumbai attacks in 2008.To prevent any future misdemeanor by Pakistan, the Indian Army’s new doctrine, ‘Cold Start’ envisages a response so swift, that neither the Pakistani Army nor the Indian political leadership, which has a legacy of being weak-willed, will have the time to react. For this, the doctrine contemplates moving up to eight independent battle groups with their own armoured and mechanised brigades near the forward positions instead of depending on strike corps that are based deep in the heart of the nation. A smaller battle group will move quicker and push into Pakistani territory within hours, preventing the enemy from launching a counter attack.

Think of this as a quick punishment, without threatening the integrity of Pakistan as a nation. With multiple, independently operating battle groups, it will pretty much incapacitate the Pakistani leadership from making quick decisions. To validate the doctrine, the India Army has conducted exercises like Operation Vijayee Bhava and Sudarshan Shakti where Division sized groups proved their quick mobilization times. India has also developed a tactical ballistic missile called Prahaar which has a range of 150 km and is solid fuelled for quick reaction times unlike the liquid fuelled Prithvi.

Pakistani response

So alarmed are the Pakistanis with the Cold Start, that they have changed tactics to counter the doctrine by reducing their nuclear threshold. Pakistan is believed to be working on tactical nukes that are designed for use in the battlefield. Whether Pakistan has the ability to miniaturize the size of nukes is debatable, but what is known for sure is that this is meant to counter India’s conventional military superiority.

The problem with tactical nukes is that they have to be kept ready for quick deployment and kept closer to the battlefield. The control too won’t be with the political leadership, but the local commander. That these nukes can be fired at the discretion of a ‘rogue’ General, or be stolen by the ever-present terrorist outfits are just some of the possibilities. And the other problem is that any nuclear conflict, even if it starts in a tactical battlefield scenario, is most likely to escalate to a strategic level. What that means is that if Pakistan tries to stop the forward movement of the Indian Army using nuclear weapons, India’s No First Use of nuclear weapons, which is designed for a decisive second strike, will be devastating to say the least.

All for peace

So if Pakistan were to make the mistake of launching a Mumbai-like attack again, and the Indian Army was to react with a swift ingress into its territory, can we expect a full blown nuclear conflict to ensue? The answer to that is most likely a ‘no’. Because if successive leaders of USSR and USA didn’t have the stomach for it even during the ‘Cold War’, expecting an economically weak Pakistan to do so is pretty much out of the question. The West, on whose donation Pakistan is surviving, won’t allow this to happen. In fact Western nations are keeping a close watch on the location and security of the Pakistani arsenal.

But if a nuclear exchange ever did take place, India’s strategic depth allows it to shrug off and walk away, while Pakistan will be wiped off the face of the map. And Pakistan knows this all too well.

Let’s hope the peace prevails.

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Here's Why The Indian Army’s New War Doctrine 'Cold Start' Is Giving Jitters To The World

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Pure fiction,no such thing as "Cold Start Doctrine" exist,even in paper.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

If you rely on made in china, than best of luck. lol

I see what you are saying its funny to some extent and I like to laugh

BUT then again
most of the Western hardware has Chinese components there, the list is long I mean not just commercial but Military and scientific / high-tech
looks like the users of Chinese item might have the last laugh (or collective cries because not many western items are left that dont have a chinese input direct or indirect)

 

[doppelganger]

I see what you are saying its funny to some extent and I like to laugh

BUT then again
most of the Western hardware has Chinese components there, the list is long I mean not just commercial but Military and scientific / high-tech
looks like the users of Chinese item might have the last laugh (or collective cries because not many western items are left that dont have a chinese input direct or indirect)

I agree with you. This is West-origin dehumaization of the Chinese during their rise, which is carried forward to this day even when its pretty obvious that they have moved on by leaps and bounds and are no longer the China of the Chinese pens and toys and cheap electronics vintage.

Its especially disappointing when I see Indians doing that, because off late I see the same West-originated dehumanization starting to gather steam for India.

It actually makes me feel god when that happens, as the Americans and Brits make snide atempts to put us down and show us as backward savages, because it signifies to me that they are begining to get worried. Worried enough to start putting us down. Which means we are on to a good thing and moving in the right direction.

 

[WAR-rior]

Question: Indian mentally any stronger?

Becsuse war need strong mind snd hearts then came resources and tactics.

Such articles will make only indian populace more foolish.
And fools font win wars.

Ohh ya. That darpok yindoo theory is back. 1 Muslim = 10 Hindus.

I totally agree.

 

[indianBong]

I don't know if its good or bad but last time I saw Sheshadri Chari, An ex RSS ideologue and current BJP think tank, saying it on face of Pakistani inter locuters on an Indian news channel that 'Pakistan and it's nukes can go to hell '.

Now what can we make out of such indifference to Pakistani one answer fits for all questions jibe,'We r a nuclear power'?

I mean is it dangerous to be averse to Pakistani hunger to bring in nukes for any random stuff
or
India has already prepared itself on military, economic and diplomatic level that its but sure that Pakistani nukes will never leave its Arsenal.

do you really think indian leadership is so efficient and strong willed ??? political leadership did let us down...

 

[HariPrasad]

as you are.... lol ................ thats a fake world war II V-2 rocket failure video made by some low IQ idiot.

If want to troll do it in aproper way.




About the interceptor, it was successful in all previous time. Read the news again, All countries had so many failure... except two... Pakistan and NK.

Yes First AAD test Kill incoming missile in hit to kill Mode.

Nirbhay flew in 10 m band of predesignated path and pass through 14 geographical location , Hover around target before hitting it.

He and his best friend china can only dream of this type of success.

Oh Yes our nukes are made to create hell and they will take cold start lovers with em

Your nukes are made to attack Pakistani land so no worry for us.

 

[Kinetic]

I see what you are saying its funny to some extent and I like to laugh

BUT then again
most of the Western hardware has Chinese components there, the list is long I mean not just commercial but Military and scientific / high-tech
looks like the users of Chinese item might have the last laugh (or collective cries because not many western items are left that dont have a chinese input direct or indirect)

There is a difference between Apple made in China and Xiomi made in China. You may get fancy stuffs but you have to rely on luck as well. Also China isn't giving best techs to Pakistan. They have given MBT-2000, FC-1 not the best they have like J-10B or Type-99 etc.

 

[hunter_hunted]

No we didn't lost to china, we didn't lose a inch. You lost half of your country and above all you surrendered with 93000 soldiers to much smaller Indian army in Dhaka.

Keep saying that to calm your nerves because the world knows and remembers the beating you guys took from the hands of China.

We fought against multiple enemies Muktibani, Indian army and the powerful foe behind all of this soviets . And soviets paid dearly and today Russia is getting closer to Pakistan and viceversa ....

every time you have crossed the threshold the backlash has been harder that your ISI boses know it very well how it is given back
only difference we understand the difference between overt and covert
why paint our face black like you people in the global community

our dirty work department also work 24/7 every score is settled, every thing is paid with interest

Oh please enough of this chest thumping. give me a reason to reply to back or else scoot

Yes First AAD test Kill incoming missile in hit to kill Mode.

Nirbhay flew in 10 m band of predesignated path and pass through 14 geographical location , Hover around target before hitting it.

He and his best friend china can only dream of this type of success.




Your nukes are made to attack Pakistani land so no worry for us.

Then there is nothing for you to worry about . And still you are not able to make a move your defence analysts know what will the response of aggression .... make your move buddy

 

[Irfan Baloch]

There is a difference between Apple made in China and Xiomi made in China. You may get fancy stuffs but you have to rely on luck as well. Also China isn't giving best techs to Pakistan. They have given MBT-2000, FC-1 not the best they have like J-10B or Type-99 etc.

yup thats true, good thinking
keep it up

when there is glass why not concentrate on the half empty one? since it is part of the glass No?

 

[HariPrasad]

Then there is nothing for you to worry about . And still you are not able to make a move your defence analysts know what will the response of aggression .... make your move buddy

We are not worried at all. Who told you that we are worried.We have already made the move. The move which is cost effective.

 

[coffee_cup]

A question to indians:

Does the cold start doctrine exist?

Yes or No?

If no, what are we debating here? Another Vedic era myth?

 

[IND151]

There is a difference between Apple made in China and Xiomi made in China. You may get fancy stuffs but you have to rely on luck as well. Also China isn't giving best techs to Pakistan. They have given MBT-2000, FC-1 not the best they have like J-10B or Type-99 etc.

Because Made in China and Made by China are different things.

 

[MastanKhan]

Sir I never believed the real cold start doctrine is a military offensive, most likely to fool Pakistani into believeing that they will face an armour thrust in case of hostilities,to me this doctrine is what US did to soviet union during cold war, why go to war when we can bleed them without firing a single bullet ,I think you know what I mean

Hi,

If that analogy makes you happy---so be it---as the farmer kissed his cow----so can you.

There was this camel running in the desert and there was this fox running next to it---he asked why are you running next to me---she says----your lower lip is hanging down---one of these days it will fall down and I will eat it----so what they say in Punjabi---oh din duba---jud ghori charhyia kuba.

The distances were in thousands of miles between Russia and America---. American technology far superior and much higher in numbers----.

We are next door-----we can nuc each other by sending the nuc on a camel cart---the technical gap has decreased---you can never have enough numbers to annihilate completely----.

As for political pressure---it means nothing for Pakistan----if it did---it would not have started any wars.

But---if you are happy with your analysis and thoughts---then let it be so.

 

[hunter_hunted]

We are not worried at all? Who told you that we are worried.We have already made the move. The move which is cost effective.

Hahahahaha love the way you are trying to spit in air and that is coming back at you ... please continue continue