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Canada 'deeply regrets' visa row with India - India - The Times of India

TORONTO: Canada has said it "deeply regrets" the aspersions cast on the Indian security establishment following the refusal of visa to several Indians by its mission in New Delhi.

"The government of Canada deeply regrets the recent incident in which letters drafted by public service officials during routine visa refusals to Indian nationals cast false aspersions on the legitimacy of work carried out by Indian defence and security institutions," citizenship and immigration minister Jason Kenney said late on Thursday.

FINALLY AFTER TWO INCIDENTS TO STATEMENTS THE DUMB CANNADIANS REGRET AGAIN


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Canada mum, Indo-Canadians blame 'anti-India' bureaucracy

Canada mum, Indo-Canadians blame 'anti-India' bureaucracy - India - The Times of India

TORONTO: Canada kept mum on Thursday to India's threat to take retaliatory action for denial of visas to its serving and retired Indian security officials by the Canadian High Commission in New Delhi.

However, Indo-Canadian groups reacted angrily to the development, blaming it on the "anti-India bureaucracy".

"It is the department of immigration and citizenship that is responsible for issuing visas. I have asked them and they will get back to you later today," Canadian foreign affairs spokesperson Lisa Monette said.

But there was no response by Citizenship and Immigration Canada headed by minister Jason Kenney who visited India in January.

When contacted, Deepak Obhrai, who is parliamentary secretary to foreign affairs minister Lawrence Cannon and the highest-ranking Indo-Canadian in the current government, said, "I am out of the country. (immigration) minister Jason Kenney will comment."

Even as Canada was mum on the issue, the Canada-India Foundation called the denial of visas to Indian security officials "a systemic anti-India bias by the Canadian bureaucracy." However, it urged India not to react "disproportionately."

The CIF, which serves as an advocacy group for the Indo-Canadian community, said the alleged bias of the Canadian bureaucracy should not be misconstrued as the policy of this country's government.

"The Canadian government is not against India. It wants deeper and better relations with India. But the problem is the bureaucracy which has the old anti-India mindset of 15 or 20 years ago," Canada-India Foundation national convener Aditya Jha said.

Jha, who at a recent Canadian senate panel hearing described the Canadian High Commission in India as "the second fort, after Red Fort in Delhi'' because of its alleged inaccessibility and advocated appointment of non-bureaucrats as envoys, said, "This news has made it very clear that a systemic bias against India persists in the Canadian bureaucracy."

But "this government - from the PM to his ministers - thinks highly of India and eagerly wants to engage with New Delhi. We are witness to this," Jha said.

Defending Indian security forces, he said, "Terrorism - from within and outside - is the number one problem for India and it doesn't want anyone to interfere in its sovereignty. Even here we have a small number of people with extreme views about India getting unnecessary attention from political parties.

"The recent example is the visit of minister Kamal Nath. It sends a very negative message to India. But New Delhi should not react disproportionately to the new development."

Kam Rathee, president and CEO of the Canada-India Education Council (CIEC), called the visa issue "a tempest in a teapot."

He said, "While the relations between the two countries are excellent at the macro level, the problem seems to be at the micro level where Canadian visa officers may be going by the letter rather than the spirit of the law."

Canada will be served well if its visa officers in India get training in "social, cultural and political correctness," said Rathee, who played a crucial role in promoting trade ties between India and Canada as former president of the Canada-India Business Council.

He said, "India agencies are doing a tough job of fighting terrorism, and any misunderstanding caused by aspersions on its forces needs to be cleared up forthwith between the two prominent members of the Commonwealth."
 
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Visa row: India to retaliate if Canada does not respond

Visa row: India to retaliate if Canada does not respond - India - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: With public outrage mounting over the denial of visas to several serving and retired officials of Indian security agencies, India on Thursday warned Canada that it will retaliate suitably if Ottawa does not respond within "a few days".

"We have written to the external affairs ministry about it. If the Canadians don't respond, we will retaliate," Home Secretary G.K. Pillai told IANS.

Asked if Canadians would be denied visas to India as a retaliatory measure, Pillai said: "Let's see. It all depends on how they respond."

Pillai said India will wait for a few days before deciding the course of action. "We will wait to hear from them. Let's give them a few days' time," said Pillai.

He, however, refused to spell out possible retaliatory steps India may take against Canada over what is widely seen here as the denial of visa on extraneous grounds.

Pillai added that the external affairs ministry had summoned the Canadian high commissioner last week and sought an explanation.


One way to retaliate would be to deny visas to Canadian officials who go to Afghanistan via India, said highly-placed sources.

The home ministry wants the Canadian high commission to apologise, take back the comments and take action against the officers responsible for rejecting visas, the sources said.

Lt. Gen. (retd) A.S. Bahia, a decorated Indian Army officer who is now a member of the Armed Forces Tribunal in Chandigarh, was denied visa in May on grounds that he had served in a "sensitive location" of Jammu and Kashmir.

In yet another case, two brigadiers were denied visas in 2008 and another in 2009.

S.S. Sidhu, a retired IB officer, was denied visa on March 26, with the Canadian high commission contending that he belonged to the "inadmissible" category of persons.

In the rejection letter, the Canadian high commission said Sidhu could not be given visa as he had served in an organisation like IB and, therefore, he could "engage in an act of espionage or subversion", or "violence that would or might endanger the lives or safety of persons in Canada".

Sidhu, who said he wanted to go to Canada just to see the new house of his daughter, has termed the rejection as a "disgusting reply from a friendly country like Canada and an insult to India".

Sidhu was to visit Canada ahead of the trip of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh next month for the G-20 summit.

However, in Sidhu's case, the Canadian high commission relented after the home ministry wrote a letter to the external affairs ministry protesting the move, sources said.

The home ministry made it clear that if the IB officer was not given visa, Canadian citizens wanting to go to the war-ravaged Afghanistan from India may face similar problems.

Last week, the Canadian high commission here refused a visa to Fateh Singh Pandher, a retired BSF constable, on grounds that he was associated with a "notoriously violent force".

"The matter was taken up immediately with the Canadian high commission," Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao said here on Tuesday.

The denial of visa and the reason given for it sparked an outrage in India, prompting the Canadian authorities to go on a damage control exercise and express "great respect for India's armed forces and related institutions".

The Canadian high commission has, however, yet to comment on the incident. Despite repeated attempts to contact him, the spokesperson of the Canadian high commission was not available for comment.
 
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Canada mum, Indo-Canadians blame 'anti-India' bureaucracy

Canada mum, Indo-Canadians blame 'anti-India' bureaucracy - India - The Times of India

TORONTO: Canada kept mum on Thursday to India's threat to take retaliatory action for denial of visas to its serving and retired Indian security officials by the Canadian High Commission in New Delhi.

However, Indo-Canadian groups reacted angrily to the development, blaming it on the "anti-India bureaucracy".

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Pillai added that the external affairs ministry had summoned the Canadian high commissioner last week and sought an explanation.

One way to retaliate would be to deny visas to Canadian officials who go to Afghanistan via India, said highly-placed sources.

The home ministry wants the Canadian high commission to apologise, take back the comments and take action against the officers responsible for rejecting visas, the sources said.:cheers:
 
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Canada has said it "deeply regrets" the aspersions cast on the Indian security establishment following the refusal of visa to several Indians by its mission in New Delhi.

"The government of Canada deeply regrets the recent incident in which letters drafted by public service officials during routine visa refusals to Indian nationals cast false aspersions on the legitimacy of work carried out by Indian defence and security institutions," citizenship and immigration minister Jason Kenney said late on Thursday.
 
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Mods, Please change the title, its offending..... We have no rights to Insult anyone...

so sir do you think the canadians have a right to insult our soilders and armed forces. your ID is indian army the cannadians are insulting our armed force3 and you fell bad for calling cannadians dumb hummm ..................
 
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Its seems many Pakistanis are posting as Indians here. LOL.

By the way, IndianArmy sounds tobe obsessed with self-guilt.
 
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so sir do you think the canadians have a right to insult our soilders and armed forces

So you mean to say that because Canadians 'acted dumb' you too will follow suit and 'act dumb'?

They committed a mistake... we sought apologies... they apologized... and it should end at that.
What is all this rhetoric for? Shouting so loud about 'our power' only shows how much we lack it. Showing it off like a new toy for a kid only proves we can't handle the power we might acquire.

P.S. Mods, please delete this thread or at least change the title which serves no further purpose than insulting the Canadians.
 
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But Is Tit For Tat the way to deal it??? Is that our culture??? We need to stay calm, Our progress Should be Our reply to them

i dont have an ideology of gandhi but i grew up with the ideology of bagathsingh and subashchandra bose . and long live our armed forces who gave their today so that we can have a better tommorrow and SHAME ON CANNADA FOR THEIR DOUBLE STANDEREDS
 
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So you mean to say that because Canadians 'acted dumb' you too will follow suit and 'act dumb'?

They committed a mistake... we sought apologies... they apologized... and it should end at that.
What is all this rhetoric for? Shouting so loud about 'our power' only shows how much we lack it. Showing it off like a new toy for a kid only proves we can't handle the power we might acquire.

We have every right of being happy about it and its not an official government statement or anything.

Considering how much insulting was the whole incident a few jumping and thumping's are Okay...

:victory::victory::victory: hurray hurrayy...
 
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