Hellenoturkism

[Yankee-stani]

We know in Turkish Political circles there is Pan-Turkism, and Pan-Turanism have you guys heard of HellenoTurkism and whats your thoughts of the concept sounds crazy at first glance due to Greco-Turkish tensions in the past but would that expand Turkish influence in the Balkans much quicker

 

[Nein]

Will never happen as Turks and Greeks hate each other

 

[Yankee-stani]

Will never happen as Turks and Greeks hate each other

I think Turks would be more open to it to be fair most Turks dont have ills towards Greece or Greeks it seems the Greeks just cant move on

 

[Nein]

I think Turks would be more open to it to be fair most Turks dont have ills towards Greece or Greeks it seems the Greeks just cant move on

As Ibn Khaldun said a defeated people will always have an inferiority complex which makes it hard for them to move on.

 

[Yankee-stani]

As Ibn Khaldun said a defeated people will always have an inferiority complex which makes it hard for them to move on.

WE WUZ DEFEATED THE OTTTOMANS ANS SHIETTT EVENTHOUGH OUR HEROES ARE ALL ALBANIANS

 

[Nein]

WE WUZ DEFEATED THE OTTTOMANS ANS SHIETTT EVENTHOUGH OUR HEROES ARE ALL ALBANIANS

Everybody claims they defeated the Ottomans.

From arabs to jews. But it was the Allies of WW1 led by Britain that defeated the Ottomans.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Everybody claims they defeated the Ottomans.

From arabs to jews. But it was the Allies of WW1 led by Britain that defeated the Ottomans.

I mean all of Greece's indepedence leaders had Albanian origin or sorts but Greeks still hate Albanian guts yeah WW1 was tragic two of the pillars of or Buffer between West and East were the Austria-Hungarian Empire and Ottoman Empire all vanquished by f,,,,king Anglos

 

[Nein]

I mean all of Greece's indepedence leaders had Albanian origin or sorts but Greeks still hate Albanian guts yeah WW1 was tragic two of the pillars of or Buffer between West and East were the Austria-Hungarian Empire and Ottoman Empire all vanquished by f,,,,king Anglos

I wish the central powers won

 

[BordoEnes]

I'm down.

 

[Blackwolf12]

I wish the central powers won

Greeks hardly have an inferiority complex they contributed some of the greatest things in this world...
Not everyone is obsessed with conquest like us lol
And don’t forget 1st balkan war, Ataturk and the revolutionary officers were shocked at our defeat at the hands of the Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs, etc...

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

won't happen
but i think turkey should had turkified the balkans and the kavkaz

Russians de-turkified that region, expelling many Muslims, during the Russian-Turk wars.

 

[Nein]

Lets create more problems we have Arabs and Kurds lets now add in the Greeks to the mix.

Keep the Turks and Greeks away from each other

 

[Yankee-stani]

won't happen
but i think turkey should had turkified the balkans and the kavkaz

Well arent Gaugaz the most Turkfied group in the Balkans and in Europe this despite them being Orthodox not Muslim also you have the Pomaks in Bulgaria and Greece who are Muslim but their language is Turkish and cultural customs are more in line with the Turks than with Bulgarians or Greeks

Russians de-turkified that region, expelling many Muslims, during the Russian-Turk wars.

Stalin was the worst and he wasnt even Russian he was Georgian or Kavkaz who hated his own people and deported Georgians to Central Asia and Siberia besides the Tatars,Kazakhs and other Central Asians.

Lets create more problems we have Arabs and Kurds lets now add in the Greeks to the mix.

Keep the Turks and Greeks away from each other

Arabs and Kurds are scrummy people anyways I would take a Greek over a Arab or Kurd, the problem with Greece and Greeks is their warped view of Turks and Turkey, hopefully in the future this changes

turks were still minority even during the ottoman rule most of the people who local converts

Another factor of the fall of the Ottoman Empire was the placating of minorities over the majority Turkish population

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Stalin was the worst and he wasnt even Russian he was Georgian or Kavkaz who hated his own people and deported Georgians to Central Asia and Siberia besides the Tatars,Kazakhs and other Central Asians.

He was a communist, all communists hate their own people.

 

[CAN_TR]

Well arent Gaugaz the most Turkfied group in the Balkans and in Europe this despite them being Orthodox not Muslim also you have the Pomaks in Bulgaria and Greece who are Muslim but their language is Turkish and cultural customs are more in line with the Turks than with Bulgarians or Greeks

No Gagauz are Turks who mixed with Slavs and became Orthodox.