Has ISI losts its influence in afganistan?

[LeGenD]

ISI is a decent spy agency but it have its limits. It have achieved cult following in Pakistan and some have even gone as far as to promote it as the best through unofficial rankings.

It is virtually impossible to rank spy agencies at official capacity due to secrecy factor. However, based on documented evidence, CIA and NSA are most resourceful but Mossad is most fearsome.

 

[GURU DUTT]

He is a traitor according to some Pakistani & to some he was a Hindu & Sikh agent because how could abdali kill ancient pakistani Muslims it must be Sikhs & Hindus only

really and then these guys call us "seruslly messed up" starnge isnt it

ISI is a decent spy agency but it have its limits. It have achieved cult following in Pakistan and some have even gone as far as to promote it as the best through unofficial rankings.

It is virtually impossible to rank spy agencies at official capacity due to secrecy factor. However, based on documented evidence, CIA and NSA are most resourceful but Mossad is most fearsome.

thing is ISI instead of getting things right in pakistan set owt to get involved in too many areas at the same time leaving its soft underbelly unguarded thinking offence is the best defnce but ignoared the old rule in this game hence its so called most astonishing victory is turned into its own nemesis

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

ISI is just one of many observers who have an interest in Afghanistan......our "influence" over Afghanistan exists but it's not like we have control over what goes on there. The onus lies on Afghans and their govt. - both which seem either unable or unwilling to stabilize the country and stop it from being regional head-ache

The truth is Afghanistan is under heavy influence of India, so Pakistan should stick with their best options to tackle this threat.

india wields little influence but there is the nuisance factor such a it's clandestine support for terrorists aimed at attacking Pakistan....for that reaosn we are involved and we will ensure the indians fail in each and every one of their nefarious objectives - they already are failing to encircle Pakistan but they haven't stopped trying so we have to maintain course - that's just the reality

 

[nik141993]

ISI is just one of many observers who have an interest in Afghanistan......our "influence" over Afghanistan exists but it's not like we have control over what goes on there. The onus lies on Afghans and their govt. - both which seem either unable or unwilling to stabilize the country and stop it from being regional head-ache

The onus lies on GHQ Rawalpindi,which is interfering in Afghanistan internal matter through its proxy, kunduz was where you get busted , no matter what you try in long run it will only hurt you

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

The onus lies on GHQ Rawalpindi,which is interfering in Afghanistan internal matter through its proxy, kunduz was where you get busted , no matter what you try in long run it will only hurt you

Kunduz is their own internal matter for them to sort out. GHQ Rawalpindi is already busy in combating terrorists of TTP and their affiliates and GHQ has done a damn-fantastic job at it - result speak for themselves. If the Afghans had the capacity and will they could solve their internal problems but the issue is also countries such as yours who are trying to create anti-Pakistan activity and hysteria through covert action and funding to undesirable elements.

your late defense attache got "busted" by Pakistan for supporting BLA/BLF and other terrorist group and he paid dearly for it

 

[nik141993]

ISI is just on

india wields little influence but there is the nuisance factor such a it's clandestine support for terrorists aimed at attacking Pakistan....for that reaosn we are involved and we will ensure the indians fail in each and every one of their nefarious objectives - they already are failing to encircle Pakistan but they haven't stopped trying so we have to maintain course - that's just the reality

India didn't fail in anything cause she tried nothing your NSA affirm India's stance, I will take his word over gullible Pakistani awaam

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

India didn't fail in anything cause she tried nothing your NSA affirm India's stance, I will take his word over gullible Pakistani awaam

Keep telling yourself that and remain in your naivety and denial if it helps you catch a few extra hours of sleep every night

 

[GURU DUTT]

Keep telling yourself that and remain in your naivety and denial if it helps you catch a few extra hours of sleep every night

mazarat ke saath arz karoonag sirji ..... thing is ISI has become too predictable for both CIA & RAW and the afghan intellegence alike and its very easy to pick up there pattern and that is what making them so.... khair jane do sanu ki

point is if Paksiatni security establishment and ISI/PA wants peace in pakistan then they have to make sure none of there assets create problems for afghans and there quest for peace cause more than afghanistan it is pakistan which needs peace in afghansitan and areas in pakistan where afghans hold direct & considrable influence .... if you know what i mean ..... cheers mate

 

[nik141993]

mazarat ke saath arz karoonag sirji ..... thing is ISI has become too predictable for both CIA & RAW and the afghan intellegence alike and its very easy to pick up there pattern and that is what making them so.... khair jane do sanu ki

point is if Paksiatni security establishment and ISI/PA wants peace in pakistan then they have to make sure none of there assets create problems for afghans and there quest for peace cause more than afghanistan it is pakistan which needs peace in afghansitan and areas in pakistan where afghans hold direct & considrable influence .... if you know what i mean ..... cheers mate

Sir we should leave gullible awaam alone by the way have you read saurv jha recent article on CNN IBN on look east it was posted buy mugdi few hours ago here plz share your view there

 

[GURU DUTT]

Like i said, what ISI is and what it does is beyond yr comprehention skills. Specially for someone from Shishu Panya Mandir's educational background.

we know what ISI is and what it wants but we wont let it have it if they keep on hurting owr interests in india and afghanistan and trying to blackmail with there assets make no mistake they did all this without any serous repacursions till big daddy USA was supporting them now since there support is gone they are feeling the heat and plying the victim card and we will keep them pushing if they dont change there attitude towards india ..... think about it

And indian is the one saying it.
Yeah sure, Guess i'll just believe it.

look around in your nation as to what afghan jihad brought for your nation to judge weather what i said was right or wrong but even then you dont aknowledge it thats your porblem but if to escape the fruits of your own labour the you know what to expect ... dont ya

Sir we should leave gullible awaam alone by the way have you read saurv jha recent article on CNN IBN on look east it was posted buy mugdi few hours ago here plz share your view there

link dena sirji

So why dont India extend this love more by bringing in all Afghan refugees from Pakistan? The very common Afghans. The fact is that the common Afghans do reside in Pakistan and consider it their second home. If bunch of Northern Alliance people are talking crap on media then it doesnt mean whole Afghanistan is so. Even Mr Ghani consulted Pakistan first for peace dialogue but ofcourse was forced by his Co and Karzai (totally normal in politics). I hope India keeps the money flow on or would soon face same remarks by the same very Karzais when they turned against their own very US in the end.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/world/asia/hamid-karzai-afghanistan.html?_r=0
Karzai blames escalating war on security deal with US | Pajhwok Afghan News
Ex-President Karzai Blames US for Expansion of Extremism in Afghanistan

Having said so it makes me wondering why did ANSF help US take out Mr Sajna (well atleast they claim they did so)?
TTP leader Said Sajna taken out by ANSF

Same very Indian assets taken out one by one. Each string of yours is being seamlessly neutralized. Its just matter of time...tick tock tick tock

thing is you are trying to be too gullible if you think afghans will forget what pakistans obsession to find strategik depth in afghanistan brought for afghanistan and afghans no matter if he is a hazara, tajik or pashtun all of them have one thing in common in fact two

1.love , respect and feeling of brother hood with india

2. hate for pakistan and its role in making what afghanistan went through all these years

and last but not the least your nation will keep paying it if it still plays the old game in afghanistan and you know what im talking about but still .... cheers mate

 

[nik141993]

we know what ISI is and what it wants but we wont let it have it if they keep on hurting owr interests in india and afghanistan and trying to blackmail with there assets make no mistake they did all this without any serous repacursions till big daddy USA was supporting them now since there support is gone they are feeling the heat and plying the victim card and we will keep them pushing if they dont change there attitude towards india ..... think about it


look around in your nation as to what afghan jihad brought for your nation to judge weather what i said was right or wrong but even then you dont aknowledge it thats your porblem but if to escape the fruits of your own labour the you know what to expect ... dont ya


link dena sirji


thing is you are trying to be too gullible if you think afghans will forget what pakistans obsession to find strategik depth in afghanistan brought for afghanistan and afghans no matter if he is a hazara, tajik or pashtun all of them have one thing in common in fact two

1.love , respect and feeling of brother hood with india

2. hate for pakistan and its role in making what afghanistan went through all these years

and last but not the least your nation will keep paying it if it still plays the old game in afghanistan and you know what im talking about but still .... cheers mate

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[GURU DUTT]

Sir ji can't post ,juma juma 2 din huai hai join kiye huai you can find it or just ask @magudi

cant find him or the thread but if you go on that thread just tag me there

 

[Windjammer]

ISI is a joke in India....

Really, any wonder the world thinks India is a circus, even a burst tyre punches out your air and you blame it on ISI.

Although the stories about alleged ISI activities are not doing India any good for they are regarded in responsible circles as naïve and absurd. If one believed all the tales in the press it would seem that some 1,100 ISI agents were identified in 14 months and it appears that the rumour-mongers have never been told about the boy who cried 'Wolf!' Every petty hood and crook in the country is in danger being labelled 'ISI'-

 

[shah1398]

thing is you are trying to be too gullible if you think afghans will forget what pakistans obsession to find strategik depth in afghanistan brought for afghanistan and afghans no matter if he is a hazara, tajik or pashtun all of them have one thing in common in fact two

thing is you are trying to be too gullible if you think afghans will forget what pakistans obsession to find strategik depth in afghanistan brought for afghanistan and afghans no matter if he is a hazara, tajik or pashtun all of them have one thing in common in fact two

1.love , respect and feeling of brother hood with india

2. hate for pakistan and its role in making what afghanistan went through all these years

Come on Sir U missed the part of repatriation of Afghan refugees to India as show of love for them. This makes me wondering that if they all hate us so much then why do they all keep on coming to Pakistan to take refuge? Even in this very moment they are crossing Torkham border into Pakistan. Aint it starnge that U still visit those whom U hate?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Really, any wonder the world thinks India is a circus, even a burst tyre punches out your air and you blame it on ISI.

Who in the world thinks India is a circus? Everyone thinks you're a circus.

Under ISI pak has lost territoty and drowned in insurgency. Under RAW, India actually grew in territory, our idea of 'intelligence' is not only arming rag tag groups of militants (easiest thing to do) but organize the thought process of an entire country, engineer an abdication and manage a referendum where they decide to join india voluntarily. All fo this was done in Sikkim. What have you ever done to match this? What have you ever done that we don't do better?