has anyone met any vetrans from the kargil war? and heard from there experiences?

[tarrar]

Nawaz saved your ***.Peaks after peaks were going out of your control.After the capture of Tiger hill by the Indian Army nothing was left.

F**KING lies. This story was made in bollywood.

 

[13 kumaon]

F**KING lies. This story was made in bollywood.

Tiger hill was captured by I.A in July 1999.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

F**KING lies. This story was made in bollywood.

And where was yours made?..Among the Fantastic 4 of PAK ARMY in 99 after Mushy begged Nawaz to ask for Americans for help?

 

[EL LOBO]

ok

good luck

thanx...

 

[Basel]

Supply line to Siachen was never cut off during the Kargil conflict.
LeH(Ladakh) is the main logistical base for Siachen.

Leh inturn get it supplies from Chandigarh(Ambala Cantonment)

Now there are two routes from Ambala to LeH

1. NH1 D via Kargil : this route was temporarily under Pakistani artillery fire, during a portion of the Kargil conflict..that too during the day time only. At night army truck convoys were not visible Pakistani arty observers.

2. Manali Leh Highway: It was secondary supply route to Leh, was sparingly used during the Kargil war, as supplies at Siachen never dropped to dangerously low levels and the supply lines via NH1 were quickly restored.

If that was the case then why your soldiers were crying on radio to their COs for supplies?? as they seem extremely short of even basic needs forget the munitions.

Also PA artillery was active at night too, I used to hear 130mm firing all night in Nakyal sector, as I was only few km away from them near army area at that time and had continuous interaction with them, and PA had human lintel available to take out incoming convoyed that was also what IA acknowledged.

 

[ares]

If that was the case then why your soldiers were crying on radio to their COs for supplies?? as they seem extremely short of even basic needs forget the munitions.

Also PA artillery was active at night too, I used to hear 130mm firing all night in Nakyal sector, as I was only few km away from them near army area at that time and had continuous interaction with them, and PA had human lintel available to take out incoming convoyed that was also what IA acknowledged.

Well these are just fairy tales from your side..how can troops in Siachen be short on supplies ,when one of the routes to LeH was never blocked. For Siachen to be on short supply, entire leh(Ladakh) would have to suffering from shortage first and By mid june Pakistan had lost the ability to target NH1 anymore

On the other hand Pakistani generals on record saying, that on some of the peaks Pakistani intruders were surviving by eating a handful sugar and snow for weeks , as their logistical supply lines were completely destroyed.

And if your guns were firing at night, they were firing blind.

 

[Basel]

Well these are just fairy tales from your side..how can troops in Siachen be short on supplies ,when one of the routes to LeH was never blocked. For Siachen to be on short supply, entire leh(Ladakh) would have to suffering from shortage first and By mid june Pakistan had lost the ability to target NH1 anymore

On the other hand Pakistani generals on record saying, that on some of the peaks Pakistani intruders were surviving by eating a handful sugar and snow for weeks , as their logistical supply lines were completely destroyed.

And if your guns were firing at night, they were firing blind.

For me you are also telling fairy tales, a typical Indian in self delusion.

 

[ares]

For me you are also telling fairy tales, a typical Indian in self delusion.

Unlike you I can prove my fairy tale..can you?

 

[13 kumaon]

For me you are also telling fairy tales, a typical Indian in self delusion.

can you provide some source that I.A was starving to death in siachen due to the blockade caused by your mighty 130 mm at night.

BTW what was the target of those 130mm

 

[Basel]

can you provide some source that I.A was starving to death in siachen due to the blockade caused by your mighty 130 mm at night.

BTW what was the target of those 130mm

First prove that they were getting the supplies. During Kargil I was in Kashmir and saw war happened so don't tell me what happened there, and you can't imagine what kind of lintel PA had, I admire the way they take out targets in IoK with artillery but it was people providing accurate targeting data, which make it possible. I know PA took losses but IA took more then PA. PA's guns were never blind even WLR were there.

PA artillery was so busy in continuously firing at enemy that soldiers had to put water to cool down guns, because if they didn't then barrel could have blasted.

 

[nForce]

Was India prepared for full-fledged war with Pakistan back then?
It is on the record that your country purchased ammo from Israel in urgency just to meet requirements of Kargil ops. Your armored was really in bad shape then and lots of other weakness which were highlighted in Kargil commission report.
So??
Was that just a bluff to rope in international community to pressurize Pakistan to back off?

What exactly are you suggesting ? Do you live in some kind of la-la land or what ?
How much endurance did Pakistan have back at that time, with that economy ? Fuel would have lasted 15 days at max, 20 -30 days if civilian use was stopped.If Indian Navy blockaded Karachi, then even lesser. India on the other hand, has far greater endurance.

India lobbed near about 250000 shells/rockets to dislodge the intruders. How many from Pakistani side ? PAF even stopped flying CAP missions due to lack of spare parts while IAF was having a field day.

Did you not know about all these before speaking or what ?

F**KING lies. This story was made in bollywood.

What lies ? It took 11 years for the Pakistani army to accept the truth, but they finally did and listed the names of the men who lost their lives in Kargil war.

@Topic.

I used to stay in rent at a house once. The apartment owner was a retired Kargil veteran. He was with the Army Engineering Corps.

He used to tell many stories..
One of them goes like, they were given the order to move out and set up the howitzers to bombard the peaks. They reached the spot and spent a few hours in setting up. Out of thirty howitzers, four were malfunctioning. He inspected the defects and found out it will take a few days to get the spares. But, if one defective gun is cannibalized, then the spares from that gun will fix all others.
Strict orders were given to open fire at 4 AM in the morning. So, the men got to work, took out the spares from one gun, fixed the other three, all in pitch dark night, with very little light, as a source of light.
Finally, as decided, they opened fire with all 29 guns together, sharp at 4 in the morning. Those were among some of the very first howitzers to be used in Kargil. In his words, it was a spectacle to behold.

 

[mujhaidind]

Azam Khan saheb said that Muslims won the kargil war. Hindu and Sikhs soliders got scared of Pakistani Muslim soliders and fell back. While Indian Muslim soliders fought bravely and won the war

 

[13 kumaon]

First prove that they were getting the supplies. During Kargil I was in Kashmir and saw war happened so don't tell me what happened there, and you can't imagine what kind of lintel PA had, I admire the way they take out targets in IoK with artillery but it was people providing accurate targeting data, which make it possible. I know PA took losses but IA took more then PA. PA's guns were never blind even WLR were there.

If you were there you probably were in your house far from the battlefield,two of my cousin fought in Kargil and PVC yogendra singh 2km from ancestral village in U.P.so stop talking like Malala,your Art. was successful until it had been provided the coordinates by pak army capturing the peaks like tiger hill which I.A had captured by early July.

On a lighter note my cousin has many articles like belt,mugs and pakistani currency as souvenirs which he took from the corpse of PA/muj

Azam Khan saheb said that Muslims won the kargil war. Hindu and Sikhs soliders got scared of Pakistani Muslim soliders and fell back. While Indian Muslim soliders fought bravely and won the war

Azam khan is an old fool not one Muslim won PVC in Kargil while yadavs and jats of U.P slaughtered mujahidin while Garhwalis beheaded some soldiers.

 

[mujhaidind]

Azam khan is an old fool not one Muslim won PVC in Kargil while yadavs and jats of U.P slaughtered mujahidin while Garhwalis beheaded some soldiers.

Yadav and Gharwali midgets cannot even slaughter cockroaches.

 

[Basel]

If you were there you probably were in your house far from the battlefield,two of my cousin fought in Kargil and PVC yogendra singh is from ancestral village in U.P.so stop talking like Malala,your Art. was successful until it had been provided the coordinates by pak army capturing the peaks like tiger hill which I.A had captured by early July.

On a lighter note my cousins has many articles like belt,mugs and pakistani currency as souvenirs which he took from the corps of PA/muj

I lived only few km away from LOC during Kargil conflict (although I went to visit my relative there), could see Indian side from roof top of my house, it was army controlled area, my neighbors brother Lieutenant took 13 bullets of LMG and survived he was the only survivor on his post. Had frequent conversations with PA personal, they even gave us their vehicle to move around but instruct driver not to go to border (LOC) as it will be suicidal for us. Saw Namaz-e-Janaza few soldiers & people (civilians) slaughtered on LOC by IA spec ops.

PA artillery was effective because I know the results it generated in sector where I was living in.

I also had access to souvenirs from IA which were captured by PA or Muj but we were instructed not to get hold of those.