Happy new year, How to celebrate it.

[MultaniGuy]

Yeah like me, I eat meat three times a day and advocate vegan.

I did not quite understand what you are trying to say.

 

[Maarkhoor]

I did not quite understand what you are trying to say.

Leave it for another day.

 

[war&peace]

Salafis/Ahl-i-Hadith/Deobandis strongly condemn terrorism.

They are the ones who declare Barelvis and Shias as Mushriqs and that's the ideology used by the terrorist of TTP and Maulvi Fazal-ullah to target sunni scholars, massajid and shrines. They openly preach terrorism.

 

[MultaniGuy]

They are the ones who declare Barelvis and Shias as Mushriqs and that's the ideology used by the terrorist of TTP and Maulvi Fazal-ullah to target sunni scholars, massajid and shrines. They openly preach terrorism.

No doubt that TTP are terrorists. I am not sure if TTP are Salafis/Deobandis/ahl-i-hadith.

TTP are vermin and must be crushed.

About Barelvis and Shias...well they are not mainstream Muslims. That is a fact.

Salafis/Deobandis/Ahl-i-Hadith say they are mainstream Muslims.

By the way, Salafis/Deobandis/Ahl-i-Hadith condemn terrorism in the strongest terms.

 

[Maarkhoor]

About Barelvis and Shias...well they are not mainstream Muslims. That is a fact.

Salafis/Deobandis/Ahl-i-Hadith say they are mainstream Muslims.

Barelvis also says that they are mainstream Muslim but in fact, wahabi, deobandi and baravliz are all 18th centuries sects, either created by British or opposition.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Barelvis also says that they are mainstream Muslim but in fact, wahabi, deobandi and baravliz are all 18th centuries sects, either created by British or opposition.

lol Barelvis and Shia are the minority sects.

 

[Mr.Department]

A princely dinner with family or close friends. Praying for a peaceful new 2018.

 

[war&peace]

About Barelvis and Shias...well they are not mainstream Muslims.

Then who is the main stream Muslim and what the definition and what evidence you have to backup your claim?

lol Barelvis and Shia are the minority sects.

90% of Pakistani Sunni Muslims are Brelvis, Turkish people are also adherent to the same ideology and same goes for the indonesia and many Arab countries except a few douchbags

 

[MultaniGuy]

Then who is the main stream Muslim and what the definition and what evidence you have to backup your claim?


90% of Pakistani Sunni Muslims are Brelvis, Turkish people are also adherent to the same ideology and same goes for the indonesia and many Arab countries except a few douchbags

That is where I disagree with you.

90% of Pakistani Sunnis are Salafi/Deobandi/Ahl-i-Hadith.

We can agree to disagree.

 

[Jugger]

By the way, Salafis/Deobandis/Ahl-i-Hadith condemn terrorism in the strongest terms.

They condemn ISIS when confronted in the open.
But they also agree to 95% of what they do.
How ironic!!

 

[MultaniGuy]

They condemn ISIS when confronted in the open.
But they also agree to 95% of what they do.
How ironic!!

lol, how do you know Indian.

Salafis/Deobandis/Ahl-i-Hadith condemn ISIS and terrorists in the open and behind closed doors, genius.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Then who is the main stream Muslim and what the definition and what evidence you have to backup your claim?


90% of Pakistani Sunni Muslims are Brelvis, Turkish people are also adherent to the same ideology and same goes for the indonesia and many Arab countries except a few douchbags

There is difference between brailvi and rest of sunnis, you can say it is off shoot or dub sect of sunni Islam originated in 18th century.

90% of Pakistani Sunnis are Salafi/Deobandi/Ahl-i-Hadith.

Wrong info....

Only 5 to 10% belongs to takfiri sect.

 

[MultaniGuy]

There is difference between brailvi and rest of sunnis, you can say it is off shoot or dub sect of sunni Islam originated in 18th century.


Wrong info....

Only 5 to 10% belongs to takfiri sect.

That is where you are wrong.

First of all Salafis/Deobandis/Ahl-i-Hadith are not takfiris.

You can believe whatever you want.

 

[war&peace]

That is where you are wrong.

First of all Salafis/Deobandis/Ahl-i-Hadith are not takfiris.

You can believe whatever you want.

No he is not wrong. He is right. bro you're wrong..totally wrong by a large margin. Pakistan is the land of Auliyas. The Takfiri ideology was imported in 1980s from KSA under the guidance of Uncle Sam. Here's what Hilary Clinton says..."Let's import Wahabi brand from KSA".

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So with aid from USA and KSA, we got this disease called wahabis takfiris. If we didn't get involved in that BS of Afghan war with USSR, we would have no such cancers in our country today.

There is difference between brailvi and rest of sunnis, you can say it is off shoot or dub sect of sunni Islam originated in 18th century.

Brelvis is not a new sect. Muslims of the subcontinent always followed the Hanafi school of thought and they always loved and respected the Auliyas and thus used to visit Shrines and also listened to the sufi music called Qawwali. Whether it is Lahore, Kasur, Multan, Ajmer (india), Karachi....every city of Pakistan and subcontinent has a shrine of a religious Muslim saint who spread Islam in that area. However when the British govt supported Darool-uloom Deoband and it started to issue fatwas against the other scholars, Shah Ahmed Raza Khan of Braili opposed them most vociferously. Most of the sunnis rallied behind him and started to be called Brelvi.

Remember Deobandis were against the creation of Pakistan and they even declared both Allama Iqbal and Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah as Kafirs. Listen to Ahle-hadeeth scholar Zakir Naik's views about creation of Pakistan

And listen to this douchbag Deobandi Madni Maulvi

 

[MultaniGuy]

No he is not wrong. He is right. bro you're wrong..totally wrong by a large margin. Pakistan is the land of Auliyas. The Takfiri ideology was imported in 1980s from KSA under the guidance of Uncle Sam. Here's what Hilary Clinton says..."Let's import Wahabi brand from KSA".

So with aid from USA and KSA, we got this disease called wahabis takfiris. If we didn't get involved in that BS of Afghan war with USSR, we would have no such cancers in our country today.

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Brelvis is not a new sect. Muslims of the subcontinent always followed the Hanafi school of thought and they always loved and respected the Auliyas and thus used to visit Shrines and also listened to the sufi music called Qawwali. Whether it is Lahore, Kasur, Multan, Ajmer (india), Karachi....every city of Pakistan and subcontinent has a shrine of a religious Muslim saint who spread Islam in that area. However when the British govt supported Darool-uloom Deoband and it started to issue fatwas against the other scholars, Shah Ahmed Raza Khan of Braili opposed them most vociferously. Most of the sunnis rallied behind him and started to be called Brelvi.
Remember Deobandis were against the creation of Pakistan and they even declared both Allama Iqbal and Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah as Kafirs. Listen to Ahle-hadeeth scholar Zakir Naik's views about creation of Pakistan

And listen to this douchbag Deobandi Madni Maulvi

Dr. Zakir Naik is entitled to his opinion. That is just his personal opinion. I disagree with him on the creation of Pakistan.

Sorry but you are wrong.

90% of Pakistanis are Salafis/Deobandi/Ahl-i-Hadith.

Those who call themselves Barelvis are a minority in Pakistan.

Anyways we can agree to disagree.

I doubt the Salafis would call great men such as Allama Iqbal and the Quaid-e-Azam Kafirs.

That is a strong declaration to make.

Anyways I am not here to argue. Everyone can believe whatever they want.

But the facts won't change.