Haneef wants Australia to apologise, wants to return

[parihaka]

The latest from Australia is a leaked Indian Police dossier which links Haneef with A Qaeda

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22175616-5005961,00.html

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Nothing like that reported in the Indian media!

When the Australian lawyer takes up the defamation case and sues the Australian govt, the real story will come out because it will be each one's credibility at stake!

If he linked to AQ, he should not be allowed in free society. If the Australian govt is being redneckish, they should hang!

And Howard is a redneck and a puppet on a string of Bush! In comparison, Bush is almost loveable!

The way Howard goes about Australia's contribution to the War on Terror, it was as if Bush and the US have done nothing. A two and a half army dishing out the morsel and pretending as if it were a King's Banquet! And that the others are hardly contributing compared to Australia!

At the same time, the Australian people have shown a great deal of fairness, wherein because of their efforts that Haneef's case was heard with care!

 

[Keysersoze]

I think the OZ govt will try the old tactic of defaming his character by creating "leaks" to cast doubt. that way no one will question this kind of thing in the future. the British Govt did this the times when U.K. police royally screwed up. (shot a innocent man dead----Suddenly a mysterious "rape" allegation surfaces. Broke into another innocent mans house and shot two of them. Suddenly a "child pornography charge surfaces from no where. Neither charge was substantiated)

 

[Adux]

At the same time, the Australian people have shown a great deal of fairness, wherein because of their efforts that Haneef's case was heard with care!

haneef should be eternally gratefull to them.
If at all he was remotely linked to AL-Qaeda, the aussie court and government will not let him out for sure. This is just a cover-up stunt. His only fault he is related to terrorist.
Of course he would have contacts with his cousins, but they are al-aqeada not him. The only question is wether he has known about the plots, if he did he should be put in prison.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

What has peeved me about his case is not whether Haneef is AQ or not.

It is the smugness of Howard of acting 'smart'. All gas and no go. No congnisable evidence.
And yet, a hoop la!

Had it been an westerner involved, the whole international press and the human rights would have gone hammer and tongs as in the drug cases where white folks are involved!

But again, it is the whites of Australia who have proved the saviour.

God Bless them and may God kick the racist Howard!

I understand Bush (at times he indicates logic!), but Howard is not only a poodle but an insect! (Mods: delete if inappropriate)

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Just saw the Indian TV News.

The Indian police have stated that they had no such dossier.

The Australian Police is now searching for a link of the money trail to AQ.

 

[Bull]

Just saw the Indian TV News.

The Indian police have stated that they had no such dossier.

The Australian Police is now searching for a link of the money trail to AQ.

Run,run, run for cover Mr Howard!!!

 

[parihaka]

I must admit to a certain satisfaction watching Howard squirm. Unlike previous episodes like the children overboard debacle, the press in Australia isn't letting him wiggle out of it.

 

[Samudra]

I must admit to a certain satisfaction watching Howard squirm. Unlike previous episodes like the children overboard debacle, the press in Australia isn't letting him wiggle out of it.

Ahh....I have company.

 

[Srirangan]

Everyone seems to be turning left. I feel out of place as I stick to Right. This Left of Centre media campaign for Haneef's "human rights", I ain't buying it.

What would they want the police to do? Release a suspect so that he goes and blows up a bunch of people.

But Sri, he was innocent yada yada..

Maybe, how would the police know that before they ascertained the same? Crystal ball? Secret Oracle?

But when they ascertain his innocence, he was released.

Now do we want to compare human rights situation in Australia and Islamic countries?

Hate Howard as much as you want, but the police did what was right. And to use this to make political jabs, that's what can be expected after all.

 

[Keysersoze]

Everyone seems to be turning left. I feel out of place as I stick to Right. This Left of Centre media campaign for Haneef's "human rights", I ain't buying it.

What would they want the police to do? Release a suspect so that he goes and blows up a bunch of people.

But Sri, he was innocent yada yada..

Maybe, how would the police know that before they ascertained the same? Crystal ball? Secret Oracle?

But when they ascertain his innocence, he was released.

Now do we want to compare human rights situation in Australia and Islamic countries?

Hate Howard as much as you want, but the police did what was right. And to use this to make political jabs, that's what can be expected after all.

One thing that you in your pious position, have forgotten. This case is political from the beginning. It's keep em scared..... After all you can't justify most of the aspects of the WOT if you are not showing all the "conspiracies" that are "everywhere". It's the equivalent of the U.K. govt driving a battalion of tanks to Heathrow airport to defend it (they did do that once). I.E. a total waste of time from a security aspect (they weren't in roadblocks just parked outside a terminal) but by god it let people know they should be scared.

As for ascertaining his innocence and releasing him it appears that he was released and then re-arrested after the GOVERNMENT decided to revoke his visa in order to re-arrest him. Hence it is again a POLITICAL issue not a security issue. Because it appears that all the evidence was completely flimsy and circumstantial.
"Right" means that it's more important that you prove you are right rather than follow the rule of law.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Sri,

Unless more credible facts are placed in the media by the Australians, it will not be fair to label Haneef a terrorist.

Further, the Bangalore police has rubbished the Australian police's statement that the Bangalore police had a dossier on Haneef. The Australians have not responded. So?

Now, if the funds are traced to the AQ,then it will be a different story!

 

[Srirangan]

Sir, shouldn't suspects be taken under preventive custody just to be on the safer side? Because we all know that chances are good that more suspects would blow themselves up than rather be innocent.

Yeah, that's a dangerous assumption I've made. But not as dangerous as the alternative - letting all terror suspects to walk the streets free.

Haneef can't expect Utopian human rights privileges to be extended to him while his brothers and cousins plot to bomb airports around the world.

 

[Srirangan]

"Right" means that it's more important that you prove you are right rather than follow the rule of law.

I used the word in a different context.

One thing that you in your pious position, have forgotten. This case is political from the beginning. It's keep em scared..... After all you can't justify most of the aspects of the WOT if you are not showing all the "conspiracies" that are "everywhere". It's the equivalent of the U.K. govt driving a battalion of tanks to Heathrow airport to defend it (they did do that once). I.E. a total waste of time from a security aspect (they weren't in roadblocks just parked outside a terminal) but by god it let people know they should be scared.

I'm sorry I don't believe that. I'll give the Australian authorities the benefit of doubt. They did detain a terror suspect just to keep the safety of their citizens intact.

I wish we had such Govt's in India where national interest stood supreme instead of scoring political brownie points.

As for ascertaining his innocence and releasing him it appears that he was released and then re-arrested after the GOVERNMENT decided to revoke his visa in order to re-arrest him. Hence it is again a POLITICAL issue not a security issue. Because it appears that all the evidence was completely flimsy and circumstantial.

And when it was ascertained that the evidence was "flimsy and circumstantial", he was released. This is a fact. Rest is up to you, and we can proceed to the larger debate of judicial systems in Australia v/s the judicial systems in Islamic countries, or even India in this case (as Haneef was Indian).

 

[Keysersoze]

Sir, shouldn't suspects be taken under preventive custody just to be on the safer side? Because we all know that chances are good that more suspects would blow themselves up than rather be innocent.

Yeah, that's a dangerous assumption I've made. But not as dangerous as the alternative - letting all terror suspects to walk the streets free.

Haneef can't expect Utopian human rights privileges to be extended to him while his brothers and cousins plot to bomb airports around the world.

You just don't get it........NO evidence equals no case to answer.......just because you are scared doesn't mean you can set aside the law for others. And since there is no evidence that means he is no longer a suspect......Or are you saying that the fact that he is Muslim and related to the attackers is enough for you....

More people get killed in car crashes than terrorist events so get over your fear and grow a pair.