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Foreign Secretary says UK "uneasy" about Kurdish role in Syria, as YPG forces take advantage of northern offensive to take territory from US-backed rebels

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Britain has seen "disturbing evidence" that Kurdish forces are coordinating with the Syrian regime and the Russian air force, the Foreign Secretary has said.

The Kurdish YPG, which has become the West’s main ground force against Isil, has taken advantage of a massive regime offensive in north Syria to seize territory of its own from US-backed rebels, effectively leaving Washington in a proxy war with itself.

"What we have seen over the last weeks is very disturbing evidence of coordination between Syrian Kurdish forces, the Syrian regime and the Russian air force which are making us distinctly uneasy about the Kurds' role in all of this," Philip Hammond told Parliament on Tuesday.

After years of marginalisation at the hands of Bashar al-Assad’s regime, Syria’s Kurds have emerged as one of the war’s key power brokers, enjoying the support of both Washington and Moscow, even as the two powers square off on opposing sides of the conflict.

Although Syria’s government and rebel forces have tentatively agreed to begin a temporary ceasefire on Saturday, the participation of the YPG remains in doubt. Speaking on conditon of anonymity, a YPG official said on Tuesday that the group was "seriously examining" the US and Russian-brokered plan before deciding whether to take part.

For now, the Kurdish militia is closing in on Azaz, a rebel-held city near the Turkish border that has become one of the biggest prizes in the battle for northern Syria. If it falls, tens of thousands of Syrians who have sought refuge there from fighting outside the city could flee north to the closed Turkish border, exacerbating a humanitarian crisis that aid workers have described as the worst they have witnessed during five years of war.

Throughout 2014 and 2015, US-led warplanes supported the YPG as it has pushed Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) from a broad stretch along the Turkish border, consolidating islands of territory that it one day hopes to join up into a mini Kurdish state.

But in recent months, the militia has turned towards Russia which is now providing the Kurds with the air cover needed to move in on rebel-held land along the Turkish border. In a sign of its warming relations with Russia, the YPG's political wing, the PYD, was rewarded with a diplomatic mission in Moscow earlier this month. Turkish politicians saw the move as a deliberate provocation and part of a wider bid to expand Russian regional influence.
Now, six months into a game-changing intervention on Mr Assad’s behalf, Moscow is using a blistering campaign of bombing raids to weaken rebels fighting the Syrian regime. It is also baiting arch-rival Turkey, which is furious at the possibility of a de facto Kurdish state emerging along its border, even as it fights a militant Kurdish insurgency at home.

Last week, Ankara finally lashed out, shelling YPG positions over a period of several days in an act it described as "self-defence". The deputy prime minister, Numan Kurtulmus, warned on Tuesday that Turkey would continue those attacks in the coming days "if necessary".

Speaking ahead of Saturday’s scheduled ceasefire, John Kerry, the US secretary of state, said that continued fighting could lead to the breakup of the country. "It may be too late to keep it as a whole Syria if we wait much longer," he said.

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Experts have voiced skepticism over whether the truce can take hold in any meaningful way. Although the deal requires Moscow to halt its air campaign against groups respecting the ceasefire, that does not include Isil or Jabhat al-Nusra, an al-Qaeda affiliate group that sits at the heat of parts of Syria’s anti-regime uprising.
Even Mr Kerry said on Tuesday that he could not be sure the ceasefire would work. When asked by Sen. Barbara Boxer whether it could turn out to be a "rope-a-dope deal" from Russia, alluding to the boxing tactic of exhausting an adversary by pretending to be trapped on the ropes while the opponent expends energy on punches that do little damage, the diplomat said: "It may be."

He said Washington was considering a "plan B" for Syria if Moscow and Damascus were not serious about negotiating a political transition in the country, but would not elaborate on what that was.

The battle for northern Syria is also moving fast. Isil said on Tuesday that it had cut a key supply route for government forces between the northern city of Aleppo and central and western Syria. The Aamaq news agency, which acts as an unofficial media wing for the extremist group, said Isil fighters were in "full control" of Khanaser, a town southeast of the city of Aleppo.

A massive regime offensive in recent months has severely weakened rebel forces which had clung onto control of much of northern Aleppo for three years. Intense bombardment and heavy fighting has emptied entire villages of civilians, tens of thousands of whom are now camped out in squalid conditions along the Turkish border.

Isil also stands to benefit from the weakening of rebel forces in northern Syria, experts have warned, where rebel groups had been a bulwark against the extremist group’s further expansion.

Hammond: 'Disturbing evidence' that Kurds are coordinating with Syrian regime and Russia - Telegraph
 
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The Kurdish YPG, which has become the West’s main ground force against Isil, has taken advantage of a massive regime offensive in north Syria to seize territory of its own from US-backed rebels, effectively leaving Washington in a proxy war with itself.

Hasn't the YPG been connected to terrorist attacks against innocent civilians on Turkish soil?

If they are granted a de facto Kurdish state in Northern Syria, will they stop committing terrorist attacks against innocent civilians?
 
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What people tend to forget is that the Kurds aren't with any side, they're loyal to themselves. Their ultimate goal is an independent state, and they'll use whatever means necessary to gain that. They don't care about Assad, Russia, the USA and Turkey, as long as they get what they want.

Hasn't the YPG been connected to terrorist attacks against innocent civilians on Turkish soil?

If they are granted a de facto Kurdish state in Northern Syria, will they stop committing terrorist attacks against innocent civilians?
Sort of and unlikely. There is no direct evidence to prove the YPG have commit terrorist attacks, but it's no secret that they're allied with the PKK which IS a terrorist group, and there is ample evidence to prove that they've commit war crimes (executions, burning down civilian housing, kidnapping, false imprisonment, torture...etc).

There is no guarantee that the Kurds would stop if they gained a state in Syria, heck, they may try and take territory in Turkey. This isn't like Iraq ;The Iraqi Kurds are different in that they're not actively looking for independence, and are also close allies with Turkey. Now, because they're allied with Turkey, they've actively helped Turkey by rejecting the PKK and YPG, and giving Turkey intelligence to target PKK/YPG targets.

On the opposite hand, the PKK/YPG's ultimate goal, even if they may not admit it, is to gain a state in both Syria and Turkey, and eventually drive out the Peshmerga, to unite the land under them with Iraqi Kurdistan.
 
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Hasn't the YPG been connected to terrorist attacks against innocent civilians on Turkish soil?

If they are granted a de facto Kurdish state in Northern Syria, will they stop committing terrorist attacks against innocent civilians?
YPG=Syrian branch of the PKK.
Im sure you have heard or read about Kobani in Syria,from this town the PKK used to send terrorists into Turkiye to commit acts of terrorism,this was before the war in Syria from the 1990s on.
If you look at pictures from cities in Syria where the YPG is in charge,you will see big posters of the leader of the PKK (who is in jail in Turkiye) hanging on walls or arches in every city entrance.
Why would they do that,one might ask.
They never stopped en will not stop until we destroy them.
 
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Why would they do that,one might ask.
They never stopped en will not stop until we destroy them.

On the opposite hand, the PKK/YPG's ultimate goal, even if they may not admit it, is to gain a state in both Syria and Turkey, and eventually drive out the Peshmerga, to unite the land under them with Iraqi Kurdistan.

That's what I thought.

But Turkey will win for sure. YPG doesn't have anywhere close to the power required to take territory from Turkey. That's why the YPG/PKK are committing terrorist attacks like the one in Ankara, they are desperate and they know they have 0% chance to win a real fight against Turkey.

Terrorist scum like the YPG/PKK should be wiped from the face of the Earth.
 
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That's what I thought.

But Turkey will win for sure. YPG doesn't have anywhere close to the power required to take territory from Turkey. That's why the YPG/PKK are committing terrorist attacks like the one in Ankara, they are desperate and they know they have 0% chance to win a real fight against Turkey.

Turkey blames Kurdish militants for Ankara bomb; vows reprisals| Reuters

Terrorist scum like the YPG/PKK should be wiped from the face of the Earth.
While I do think Turkey will win out, the problem is that fire power doesn't really win insurgencies. COIN operations don't usually involve heavy weapons, and are usually conducted by special forces, as seen by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The insurgents are trying to win by using "deaths by a thousand cuts" tactic, which is why terrorist attacks suit them just fine.
 
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That's what I thought.

But Turkey will win for sure. YPG doesn't have anywhere close to the power required to take territory from Turkey. That's why the YPG/PKK are committing terrorist attacks like the one in Ankara, they are desperate and they know they have 0% chance to win a real fight against Turkey.

Terrorist scum like the YPG/PKK should be wiped from the face of the Earth.
That will be difficult when our allies keep on supporting them but,we will destroy them eventually.
Dont forget one thing,Turks and Kurds have the same rights in Turkiye,at least 80% of Kurds are our brothers,the rest are terrorists and sympathizers.
 
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The insurgents are trying to win by using "deaths by a thousand cuts" tactic, which is why terrorist attacks suit them just fine.

Not a very good tactic from the PKK terrorists though. If anything it just solidifies support against the terrorist group from all sections of society.

I believe Turkey immediately started shelling YPG in Northern Syria after they found the connection to the Ankara bombing.

That will be difficult when our allies keep on supporting them but,we will destroy them eventually.
Dont forget one thing,Turks and Kurds have the same rights in Turkiye,at least 80% of Kurds are our brothers,the rest are terrorists and sympathizers.

Agreed sir.

Once the YPG/PKK committed that terrorist attack in Ankara they crossed the point of no return, they signed their own death warrant.
 
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Not a very good tactic from the PKK terrorists though. If anything it just solidifies support against the terrorist group from all sections of society.

I believe Turkey immediately started shelling YPG in Northern Syria after they found the connection to the Ankara bombing.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple. The PKK and YPG are currently considered essential to fight Assad and ISIS, and indeed they've been the most effective force in fighting them. Until and unless there is a change in mindset within the pentagon, the PKK/YPG may continue to be immune from complete defeat.
 
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Once the YPG/PKK committed that terrorist attack in Ankara they crossed the point of no return, they signed their own death warrant.
They are sh!tting their pants now,they know Russia wont stay there for long.
Btw,do you still think my country supports terrorism in your country?
 
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No I don't think Turkey supports terrorism in China.

I think we are both victims of terrorism.
Then why,your countrymen Always accuse my country?
Just because we let some ninja's in?
Do you think that we dont know what those ninja's are all about?

The PKK and YPG are currently considered essential to fight Assad and ISIS
Correction,they never fought Assad,they only fought and are fighting ISIS,FSA and all other opposition groups.
 
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Then why,your countrymen Always accuse my country?
Just because we let some ninja's in?

I don't know, maybe some members like Atawolf (and some Chinese members) etc. like to stir up arguments in the China defence section and it leads to a flame war.

But I don't think the Turkish government supports terrorism in any country, and indeed there is a lot of China-Turkey cooperation in many fields.

In fact we are both facing the same problems. There is a lot we can learn from each other.
 
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Eventually the Kurds and Assad, after defeating the Islamists, will end their alliance and start fighting each other. Will Turkey back Assad then?
 
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Correction,they never fought Assad,they only fought and are fighting ISIS,FSA and all other opposition groups.
They have, just in limited places, and only when their interests conflicted. Make no mistake, I'm not suggesting at all that the PKK and Assad aren't hand in hand, they've both partners, but let's be realistic, they're reluctant partners.
 
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