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[Nishan_101]

Yes, Rafale will be for the MMRCA requirement of the IAF, currently it is for 126 Rafales but follow on order will make it an upward figure of 200 + IMO, any further delay in LCA will force the IAF to increase the no. of Rafales procured even though the weight category of the two differ. I think this can change the figure to 250+ just for the IAF (maybe 50+ more for IN).

No, the delay in LCA does not mean IAF going for Gripen NG, it will certainly not like to add another foreign aircraft to it's inventory & making it a logistical nightmare (esp. when many systems of it are imported from US).

Man I am not misleading the post. But see some sign there:
DRDO chief does sortie in Gripen - SP's Aviation
June 04, 2012 : A week after IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne did a sortie in a French Air Force Rafale at the Saint-Dizier air force base in France, DRDO chief Dr V.K. Saraswat was flown in the Gripen NG fighter at the Malmen air base near Linköping, Sweden during an air show.
While the Rafale has been chosen by the Indian Government in the massive MMRCA competition, the Gripen was one of the four aircraft that was knocked out of the competition last year. It is unclear what Dr Saraswat's sortie was about and whether it had anything to do with the Gripen platform itself. Dr Saraswat was in Sweden to attend the Aerospace Forum Sweden, where he gave a detailed presentation on India's unmanned technologies and ongoing projects. "By 2030, the percentage of the manned fleet will be reduced significantly. But it depends very much on how smart and intelligent we can make these systems," he said. Dr Saraswat highlighted the Nishant UAV, Rustom-1 MALE UAV and, significantly, the IUSAV (Indian unmanned strike air vehicle)—the country's classified UCAV programme, based on a stealth flying wing design similar to existing stealth UCAVs like the Neuron and Taranis. Dr Saraswat said the IUSAV would enter service in 10-15 years, and would operate alongside a solar-powered HALE UAV under development with HAL.

 

[Nishan_101]

 

[arp2041]

Man I am not misleading the post. But see some sign there:
DRDO chief does sortie in Gripen - SP's Aviation
June 04, 2012 : A week after IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne did a sortie in a French Air Force Rafale at the Saint-Dizier air force base in France, DRDO chief Dr V.K. Saraswat was flown in the Gripen NG fighter at the Malmen air base near Linköping, Sweden during an air show.
While the Rafale has been chosen by the Indian Government in the massive MMRCA competition, the Gripen was one of the four aircraft that was knocked out of the competition last year. It is unclear what Dr Saraswat's sortie was about and whether it had anything to do with the Gripen platform itself. Dr Saraswat was in Sweden to attend the Aerospace Forum Sweden, where he gave a detailed presentation on India's unmanned technologies and ongoing projects. "By 2030, the percentage of the manned fleet will be reduced significantly. But it depends very much on how smart and intelligent we can make these systems," he said. Dr Saraswat highlighted the Nishant UAV, Rustom-1 MALE UAV and, significantly, the IUSAV (Indian unmanned strike air vehicle)—the country's classified UCAV programme, based on a stealth flying wing design similar to existing stealth UCAVs like the Neuron and Taranis. Dr Saraswat said the IUSAV would enter service in 10-15 years, and would operate alongside a solar-powered HALE UAV under development with HAL.

so what do u mean?? does flying in an aircraft means buying the same?? It was just a sortie nothing else, don't read too much into it. DRDO chief may be assessing important systems of the aircraft since it is very much of the same weight category & role to that of the LCA, it can help us in our LCA program, nothing wrong in knowing the experience of others.

 

[sancho]

Although there will some delays in LCA for that I am sure Grippen NG can be a better option to adopt like having 80-120 in two phases???

You asked the same things some month ago, but the answer is still the same, Gripen E/F will not be available before 2018, while the first LCA and Rafales will arrive around 2014.
LCA MK2 will have similar features as the Gripen E/F and close to Gripen E/Fs performance in many fields, so why should IAF wait longer for a fighter that don't offer much more? Rafale is ready now, can be inducted faster and is more capable than the Gripen as well, so it adds numerous of advantages for India, next to LCA!

 

[chairborne ranger]

Man I am not misleading the post. But see some sign there:
DRDO chief does sortie in Gripen - SP's Aviation
June 04, 2012 : A week after IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne did a sortie in a French Air Force Rafale at the Saint-Dizier air force base in France, DRDO chief Dr V.K. Saraswat was flown in the Gripen NG fighter at the Malmen air base near Linköping, Sweden during an air show.
While the Rafale has been chosen by the Indian Government in the massive MMRCA competition, the Gripen was one of the four aircraft that was knocked out of the competition last year. It is unclear what Dr Saraswat's sortie was about and whether it had anything to do with the Gripen platform itself. Dr Saraswat was in Sweden to attend the Aerospace Forum Sweden, where he gave a detailed presentation on India's unmanned technologies and ongoing projects. "By 2030, the percentage of the manned fleet will be reduced significantly. But it depends very much on how smart and intelligent we can make these systems," he said. Dr Saraswat highlighted the Nishant UAV, Rustom-1 MALE UAV and, significantly, the IUSAV (Indian unmanned strike air vehicle)—the country's classified UCAV programme, based on a stealth flying wing design similar to existing stealth UCAVs like the Neuron and Taranis. Dr Saraswat said the IUSAV would enter service in 10-15 years, and would operate alongside a solar-powered HALE UAV under development with HAL.

this has nothing to do with the lca programme. please create seperate thread , if it hasnt been posted before

 

[Gessler]

@Nishan 101

Stop flooding LCA thread with Gripen ****.

 

[rockstarIN]

There is no flight update details on ADA web site for quite long time.

And its getting ready to enter in full service in Feb 2013..

Any news about Radar-BVR integration? is it R-77 or ?

 

[Nishan_101]

You asked the same things some month ago, but the answer is still the same, Gripen E/F will not be available before 2018, while the first LCA and Rafales will arrive around 2014.
LCA MK2 will have similar features as the Gripen E/F and close to Gripen E/Fs performance in many fields, so why should IAF wait longer for a fighter that don't offer much more? Rafale is ready now, can be inducted faster and is more capable than the Gripen as well, so it adds numerous of advantages for India, next to LCA!

So it means looking in to 60 EF-2000s

 

[Gessler]

There is no flight update details on ADA web site for quite long time.

And its getting ready to enter in full service in Feb 2013..

Any news about Radar-BVR integration? is it R-77 or ?

LCA will participate in firepower exercises in Feb. Induction will be by mid-2013.

So it means looking in to 60 EF-2000s

Are you mad? India is gonna buy NO other European ac except Rafale. Its a
logistics nightmare having different ac fulfilling the same role from different countries.

IAF is not PAF to buy FC-20 when you already have its American counterpart F-16C.

 

[Sergi]

So it means looking in to 60 EF-2000s

hahahahaha let me put it in other words
- INDIA will only buy Rafale now
- NO Gripen No EF

And for the pics you posted it has nothing to do with IAF purchases. DRDO cheif don't have anything to say in IAF purchases. It's IAF and MOD only
But you can say DRDO cheif is having fun

 

[sancho]

There is no flight update details on ADA web site for quite long time.

And its getting ready to enter in full service in Feb 2013..

Any news about Radar-BVR integration? is it R-77 or ?

Not necessarily, the last weapon trials were done from INS Hansa which operates Sea Harriers with EL 2032 and Derby missiles as well. Since both forces have decided to use Derby and since it's still not clear if LCA MK1 uses the EL 2032 or indigenous MMR, I would bet on the Israeli systems.

 

[Hasham.ghega111]

so indian air force is going to buy Gripen NG

 

[Abingdonboy]

so indian air force is going to buy Gripen NG

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Clear enough?

 

[chairborne ranger]

so indian air force is going to buy Gripen NG

dammit boss military technology spam karke man nahin bhara?

 

[rockstarIN]

Not necessarily, the last weapon trials were done from INS Hansa which operates Sea Harriers with EL 2032 and Derby missiles as well. Since both forces have decided to use Derby and since it's still not clear if LCA MK1 uses the EL 2032 or indigenous MMR, I would bet on the Israeli systems.

There is an advertisement for inviting vendors for the production of foreign components of LCA to produce in India in ADA website.

This includes MMR switches too.