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Israel, EU in contention to co-develop radars for Tejas - Indian Express

Israel, EU in contention to co-develop radars for Tejas


India is close to finalising a developmental partner for a next generation radar that will be the eyes and ears of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) in the future. With other contenders falling off the race due to different reasons, the race now is between European Consortium EADS and Israeli company Elta that are vying for the initial contract to co-develop 10 prototypes of an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar with India.

While the initial contract is for 10 prototypes, industry estimates put the requirement of the Indian defence forces at close to 600 radars for different types of fighters, making the deal potentially worth over $ 3 billion over the next decade. The tenders for co-development were issued by DRDO’s Electronics and Radar Development Establishment (LRDE) in December last year for the LCA Mk II that has already been approved by the government.


Sources said that LRDE is close to short listing its partner for the project and the competition now is between Elta and EADS, down from the initial bid by five companies that were vying for the potentially large contract. While EADS is showcasing its X band technology, Elta specialises in L band technology and is promoting its new generation X band antenna.

While US companies did not participate in the tender — apparently after they could not gain permission from the government to share the high end technology — Russia’s largest radar company Phazotron and France’s defence giant Thales were dropped due to technical reasons. Italian Selex did not make it to the next round after failing to deposit the earnest money specified in the tender.

The radar will also be considered for the SU 30 MKI upgrade and modernisation projects for front line fighters of the Navy and Air Force.

 

[Novice09]

Can anyone post LCA pictures with fully armed, rolling in the sky

 

[Dash]

It looks like Photoshopped....anyway thank you

 

[IndianArmy]

Fully armed TEJAS....

 

[sancho]

Israel, EU in contention to co-develop radars for Tejas - Indian Express

Israel, EU in contention to co-develop radars for Tejas


India is close to finalising a developmental partner for a next generation radar that will be the eyes and ears of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) in the future. With other contenders falling off the race due to different reasons, the race now is between European Consortium EADS and Israeli company Elta that are vying for the initial contract to co-develop 10 prototypes of an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar with India.

While the initial contract is for 10 prototypes, industry estimates put the requirement of the Indian defence forces at close to 600 radars for different types of fighters, making the deal potentially worth over $ 3 billion over the next decade. The tenders for co-development were issued by DRDO’s Electronics and Radar Development Establishment (LRDE) in December last year for the LCA Mk II that has already been approved by the government.


Sources said that LRDE is close to short listing its partner for the project and the competition now is between Elta and EADS, down from the initial bid by five companies that were vying for the potentially large contract. While EADS is showcasing its X band technology, Elta specialises in L band technology and is promoting its new generation X band antenna.

While US companies did not participate in the tender — apparently after they could not gain permission from the government to share the high end technology — Russia’s largest radar company Phazotron and France’s defence giant Thales were dropped due to technical reasons. Italian Selex did not make it to the next round after failing to deposit the earnest money specified in the tender.

The radar will also be considered for the SU 30 MKI upgrade and modernisation projects for front line fighters of the Navy and Air Force.

Again, very unexpected to shortlist EADS for such a development, while Selsex, Thales and Phazotron would be preferable, because of experience, or own AESA developments. EADS is a part of Euroradar, but it will be the Selsex AESA radar that will equip the EF.
With all the EADS involvement in LCA now (weight reductions, redesigns for a carrier version, possibly this radar co-development and the offer of an advanced trainer version) I think the chances for EJ 200 are more than good.
However, in this development we must expect the unexpected righ?

 

[Dash]

Again, very unexpected to shortlist EADS for such a development, while Selsex, Thales and Phazotron would be preferable, because of experience, or own AESA developments. EADS is a part of Euroradar, but it will be the Selsex AESA radar that will equip the EF.
With all the EADS involvement in LCA now (weight reductions, redesigns for a carrier version, possibly this radar co-development and the offer of an advanced trainer version) I think the chances for EJ 200 are more than good.
However, in this development we must expect the unexpected righ?

I completely agree, EADS is not a company for RADAR developement. Others will be better.

 

[flanker143]

Report: Elta Or EADS To Help Build Tejas AESA, Project Codenamed "Uttam"

India's home-grown AESA radar effort will soon finalise a developent partner, reports The Indian Express. According to the report, a progressive downselect since December -- when the DRDO first invited bids -- has come down to Israel's Elta and EADS Defence & Security, following the elimination of Selex, Phazotron and Thales. A recent Livefist post on the Tejas AESA is here. Oh, and by the way, I hear the LCA AESA is being developed under something called "Project Uttam".

 

[Tejas-MkII]

However, in this development we must expect the unexpected righ?

Are you talking about the context of MMRCA...

 

[sudhir007]

LCA-Tejas has completed 1400 Test Flights successfully. (02-July-10).

* LCA has completed 1400 Test Flights successfully
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-153,PV3-222,LSP1-59,LSP2-154,PV5-15,LSP3-14,LSP4-3).

(02-July-10)Tejas-LCA

 

[kish]

some lovely pics of LCA enjoy


ya really good pics ..

 

[Dark Angel]

^^^^^

If BVR can be solved for JF-17 only then it has a chance of being a potent fighter ....right now Tejas can fire Missiles like R-77 and Etc.....so there is still gap to be filled

 

[Tejas-MkII]

Cobham Looks At LCA Fueling Probe

Jul 19, 2010



By Neelam Mathews mathews.neelam@gmail.com
NEW DELHI


U.K.-based Cobham is in discussions with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. and India’s Aeronautical Development Agency about retrofitting a retractable refueling probe on the current model of the Light Combat Aircraft as well as the Mk2 version.

While Cobham is not certain how the business model will be globally tendered, the company’s experience will be a definite advantage, according to Lee Griffiths, director of Cobham India.

The Indian air force and navy are believed to be keen to get the fueling probe because of issues with flight handling, drag and movability.

“We will develop and design a retractable refueling probe,” Griffiths says. “LCA is a tightly packed aircraft ... Unfortunately, we’re later in the design period. We will roll out the retractable [version] by 2013-14.”

Cobham has already provided to the Indian air force 20 Buddy Refueling Pods for its Su-30s - Mark 754. Its main features include a fueldraulic hose rewind and response, digital control systems, easy installation via a pylon bolted under the fuselage and up to 75-ft. hose length.

The recent joint air combat exercise that India held with the French air force in June included a Su-30 tanker.

“The design has a refuel body that sits under the belly of the Su-30,” Griffiths says. “It allows [missions] as a tactical air-to-air refueler ... because the drogue and probe is of international standards.”

As India’s Sukhoi fleet grows, Cobham is looking at future requirements of 40-50 more. The premise is that in combat the IL-78 — India’s refueler — could become a high-value target. The Su-30 could refuel another Su-30 and “both can fight.”

The company also is in the early stage of talks with the Indian air force for the probes on helicopters. “For example, a C-130J can be retrofitted to the KC-130J,” Griffiths says. “A fueling probe on a Mi-17 can be refueled by a C-130J. The same is for the VVIP AW101, which will give flexibility to VVIP movements.”

Cobham says it has the ability to integrate mission systems capability onto helicopters including weapons carriage, safety and survival equipment and refueling probes.


Cobham Looks At LCA Fueling Probe | AVIATION WEEK

 

[jha]

This is a wise decision..why try to invent the wheel again.When you have the option of outsourcing to a leader.
BTW retractable refueling probe is a good choice as there is a constraint of space in the front face/nose of Tejas..

 

[sudhir007]

i think HAL also develop refueling device incorporate with LM. So why they import. is it any differnce between that ???

Lockheed Martin’s India-developed aerial refueling device to be displayed at Farnborough Air Show 2010 : Defense news

 

[Tejas-MkII]

i think HAL also develop refueling device incorporate with LM. So why they import. is it any differnce between that ???

Lockheed Martin’s India-developed aerial refueling device to be displayed at Farnborough Air Show 2010 : Defense news

well this might be the reason:

LCA is a tightly packed aircraft ...

Also device offered by Cobham is retractable or removable.
Not sure that device by HAL have this capability.