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[Two banks of the River]

18 per sq so 108..
Now are those Mk1 and Mk1A mixed or just Mk1A types?

He's talking about mk2.

For Mk1 there's already 40 for 2 squadrons and for Mk1A 83 for 4 squadrons.

 

[migflug]

18 per sq so 108..
Now are those Mk1 and Mk1A mixed or just Mk1A types?

83 MK1A has already been ordered and these 6 squadrons are for MK2.There was a huge uproar on Twitter yesterday when ACM said "IAFs 114 MRFA project progressing well. Numbers for Tejas Mk2 to be decided when first production model comes: CAS" but today morning there is a confirmation for 6 squadrons!!

 

[MirageBlue]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548873049616699392

Indian Air Force has already given commitment for the induction of six squadrons of Light Combat Aircraft Mark 2 fighter jets. We will decide on additional numbers once the production of these aircraft starts: IAF chief Air Chief Marshal VR Chaudhari

So the IAF Air Chief Marshal VR Chaudhari has confirmed that the IAF has committed for 6 squadrons of the Tejas Mk2, which will be sufficient to replace the Mirage-2000I and MiG-29UPG squadrons (of which there are a total of 6).

 

[MirageBlue]

18 per sq so 108..
Now are those Mk1 and Mk1A mixed or just Mk1A types?

16 single seaters and possibly 4 of the Tejas Mk1 trainers as well. Unless the IAF goes for the LCA LIFT separately, in which case they may just order 18-20 single seaters including reserves per squadron. So in that case it would be anywhere between 108 to 120 Tejas Mk2 fighters.

Additional numbers may be ordered based on how the MRFA and AMCA progresses.

 

[SQ8]

83 MK1A has already been ordered and these 6 squadrons are for MK2.There was a huge uproar on Twitter yesterday when ACM said "IAFs 114 MRFA project progressing well. Numbers for Tejas Mk2 to be decided when first production model comes: CAS" but today morning there is a confirmation for 6 squadrons!!

16 single seaters and possibly 4 of the Tejas Mk1 trainers as well. Unless the IAF goes for the LCA LIFT separately, in which case they may just order 18-20 single seaters including reserves per squadron. So in that case it would be anywhere between 108 to 120 Tejas Mk2 fighters.

Additional numbers may be ordered based on how the MRFA and AMCA progresses.

So that is confusing -

There are currently 2 squadrons of the Mk1s
There is a Mk1A which is 83 - so 4 odd squadrons( and likely some for TACDE)
Then there is Mk2 - 6 so 108
So at the end the Tejas by 2028 or 2030 will number(at current production+induction pace) around 200 odd airframes?

 

[kaykay]

So that is confusing -

There are currently 2 squadrons of the Mk1s
There is a Mk1A which is 83 - so 4 odd squadrons( and likely some for TACDE)
Then there is Mk2 - 6 so 108
So at the end the Tejas by 2028 or 2030 will number(at current production+induction pace) around 200 odd airframes?

Yes pretty much that. 123 Tejas mk1/mk1A and similar number for Tejas mk2. Total 12 sqds

 

[migflug]

So that is confusing -

There are currently 2 squadrons of the Mk1s
There is a Mk1A which is 83 - so 4 odd squadrons( and likely some for TACDE)
Then there is Mk2 - 6 so 108
So at the end the Tejas by 2028 or 2030 will number(at current production+induction pace) around 200 odd airframes?

Yes, 40 Mark1(16 IOC+ 16FOC+8 Trainers) +83Marks1A (10 Trainer+73 Single Seater) =123 confirmed orders.
Of these 30 Single seaters have been delivered, and 2 are currently in the process of being delivered. The construction of 18 Trainer has commenced now, of which 4 will be delivered this year and a total of 18 by 2024. And then the MK1A(73 Single Seater) production will take place which is to be completed by 2028.
Parallelly the MK2 prototype is to fly by next year. Earlier IAF committed to 201 MK2(in addition to 123) in 2018 but since then it has reduced to 170 and now to 108.

 

[Deino]

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Parallelly the MK2 prototype is to fly by next year. Earlier IAF committed to 201 MK2(in addition to 123) in 2018 but since then it has reduced to 170 and now to 108.

Thanks for the summary … by the way, are there any images of the Mk.2 prototype already available?

 

[MirageBlue]

Thanks for the summary … by the way, are there any images of the Mk.2 prototype already available?

Unfortunately none.

 

[Deino]

Unfortunately none.

Thanks anyway … so similar to several China news I‘m eagerly expecting, it seems as if I need to tame my impatience.

 

[migflug]

Thanks for the summary … by the way, are there any images of the Mk.2 prototype already available?

Sadly hasn't been made yet, maybe next yr or by early 24.

 

[Shreyas Karambelkar]

A good read on tejas,it is often criticised by shorter range but many of us do not realise that every LCA suffers with such issues.However, the main essense of a LCA is, is to be mass produced at the fraction of the cost and has a better TAT than medium or heavy weight fighters. The link given below analyses many prospects including the range.

Tejas - Not what you think it is. - Alpha Defense

– By Raflanker A new storm stirred up yet again on competence of Tejas. Time again,Tejas, a Light Combat aircraft is expected to perform like a medium category fighter. Allegations are made on its payload capacity, range, EW suite, weight and delays. But are these points really tenable? Let’s...

alphadefense.in

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

A good read on tejas,it is often criticised by shorter range but many of us do not realise that every LCA suffers with such issues.However, the main essense of a LCA is, is to be mass produced at the fraction of the cost and has a better TAT than medium or heavy weight fighters. The link given below analyses many prospects including the range.

Tejas - Not what you think it is. - Alpha Defense

– By Raflanker A new storm stirred up yet again on competence of Tejas. Time again,Tejas, a Light Combat aircraft is expected to perform like a medium category fighter. Allegations are made on its payload capacity, range, EW suite, weight and delays. But are these points really tenable? Let’s...

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This is what you got after 40 years. I won't say have some shame because I know can't.

 

[Asimzranger]

 

[Shreyas Karambelkar]

This is what you got after 40 years. I won't say have some shame because I know can't.


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I would just let you thump your chest.
Wouldn't reply a troll either.