Thanks for your honest reply...
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Without Foreign assistant... No as of now..
I think it's same with China...
Question to question is not answer.... If Pak can, quote numbere else....
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Tejas and jf17 are projects with different set of goals
Tejas was for india to gain experience in manfacturing after it already did multiple JV and underlisence projects
While jf17 was PAC first attempt for anything (PAC only built saab propellar and parts for k8)
Also jf17 was meant for mass production and was a safe design
Tejas unfortunately suffered from bad design(lack of canrads) this will be rectified with mk2 but mk2 is essentially a new aircraft
Tejas was never liked by IAF even now it is reluctant buy, but jf17 is something PAF is pretty much satisfied with..
Jf17 was suppose to be minimilistic ..every move was made to cut the cost, a dual seater was therefore never planned, fly by wire was selective and design was conservative
Only later PAC saw potent of jf17 and interest, it then scrabled to build a twin seater.
It also decided to make it a 4.5 th fighter beyond the standarad order of 150AC. the changes were made possible by incredible advances in china
With full FBW, a new solid engine with thrust equivalent to ge414(rd93ma), an AESA radar, jf 17 will surely find alot of sucess
Tejas scrapped the canrads and decreased the length of aircraft a bad design move that hunts DRDO/HAL till now.
When it comes to export market, tejas mk1 will not be brought by anyone its flawed design. Tejas mk2 is what tejas should have been(see gripen, same engine)
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You're derailing your own thread dude, why you bring JFT in your threads???
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JF-17 is assembled in Pakistan, if so it can be made with Italian radar and Russian engines, I did answer that. You failed to answer your BS about some secret massive stockpile of engines that India has for LCA that only you know about, please share information. This is an LCA thread remember.....
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No... It can't...
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So Why @The Maverick saying that you Tejas is better than all MKI and Mig-29 versions, including Russian air force versions???
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As he has no reply for LCA failure
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Engines are our major concern... that is why we are actively trying to get required technology from west... and most of us know that none is willing to provide it to us... we have to do it own our own... Period...
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Agreed, but we both know that this is impossible with regards to LCA. In future, perhaps, but right now Kavari has failed and if US withold those engines it will delay LCA by another few years as you source a new engine and integrate it. That is the fundamental weakness here. US can stop LCA in it's tracks (for the short term) should it ever decide, although I think it is unlikley.
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Every jet has its pros and cons... do you know why we are not upgrading MKIs with Russian help... because we have developed better radar and some other components in India (due to Tejas program)... we are also working on several other components... but MKI is the back bone of IAF... as of now...
At the end of the day... synergy between your various assets decide the outcome of a conflict...
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Ok but Tejas is small jet as compare MKI, which means less radar/ECM/EW range as well as less upgradation as compere to MKI, might be you're developing your base through LCA project
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You answered your self... on Engine... I really want to see US reaction once S-400 is procured... I feel that India is ready plan B... France and UK...
Tejas... it does not matter how much people make fun of this jet... but the truth is, "Tejas" is creating an aerospace industry in India... Delayed but successful...
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There is no doubt about it, India is learning valuable lessons on aviation and gaining much experiance on Tejas. One would have to be a fool not to believe that, what we do debate is the knight in shining armour and answer to all the IAF problems that many of the forum make it out to be. As a tech demonstrator and project to enhance Indian aerospace skills it can be deemed a success, as a mass produced, cheap replacement for the MIG-21 that it was set out to be it has failed.
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From IAF's Twitter
2 Tejas Mk1s from No.45 Squadron escorting a Netra AEW&C
2 Tejas Mk1s from No.45 Squadron escorting a Netra AEW&C
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