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[Water Car Engineer]

Are they!! Wow....how many?
I've never seen them in a any army exercises!!
Or I missed something?

We've been seeing some of IA's Rudras about -

IA-2101

IA-2102

IA-2105

IA-2107




IA-2101 Seen
IA-2102 Seen
IA-2103 Unseen
IA-2104 Unseen
IA-2105 Seen
IA-2106 Unseen
IA-2107 Seen
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Indian Army Aviation Rudras.

 

[W@rwolf]

Any info on this particular version? The serial number ZD-4165 indicates that it is an IAF chopper (also the roundel underneath) But the helo seems to be integrated with a FLIR turret and the IDAS self-defense suite from SAAB like the Rudras! Also note a box-like fitting behind the body (under the rear door placement)

Highly unusual..

Here's ZD-4164 identical to the above except for the FLIR turret and the winch. Were these two prototypes?

 

[Ankit Kumar]

We've been seeing some of IA's Rudras about -

IA-2101

IA-2102

IA-2105

IA-2107




IA-2101 Seen
IA-2102 Seen
IA-2103 Unseen
IA-2104 Unseen
IA-2105 Seen
IA-2106 Unseen
IA-2107 Seen
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Indian Army Aviation Rudras.

Hi
Greeting.
Sir a few questions.
1. What is the production rate of WSI? And how many are presently flying?
2. What is the status of TD4 and LUH Prototype ?
3. Can a WSI take a direct 12.7 Mm hit ?
Thanks.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Hi
Greeting.
Sir a few questions.
1. What is the production rate of WSI? And how many are presently flying?
2. What is the status of TD4 and LUH Prototype ?
3. Can a WSI take a direct 12.7 Mm hit ?
Thanks.

1. I dont know

2. T4 was supposed to fly a year ago. LUH was supposed to fly December. Cant say what's going on.

3. Only parts up armored - DRDO developed a heli composite armor given to critical parts of the heli. Recently certified -

DRDO Helicopter Composite armor

 

[fockewulf190]

Heard td4 already flying. But there are no photographic evidences.

 

[Aramagedon]

@Water Car Engineer

Just amazing ...

 

[surya kiran]

Any info on this particular version? The serial number ZD-4165 indicates that it is an IAF chopper (also the roundel underneath) But the helo seems to be integrated with a FLIR turret and the IDAS self-defense suite from SAAB like the Rudras! Also note a box-like fitting behind the body (under the rear door placement)

Highly unusual.

That looks like something being tested for the IN, not the IAF. That box looks like a pontoon. @Capt.Popeye can confirm this. Version being developed for the IN?

But then, if it is a pontoon, why is the FLIR below water level? Anybody?

IA-2102

That's my snap By the way, they no longer allow anybody to the second floor of the museum. Tried couple of times

Also, are you shaitan?

 

[W@rwolf]

That looks like something being tested for the IN, not the IAF. That box looks like a pontoon. @Capt.Popeye can confirm this. Version being developed for the IN?

But then, if it is a pontoon, why is the FLIR below water level? Anybody?


That's my snap By the way, they no longer allow anybody to the second floor of the museum. Tried couple of times

Also, are you shaitan?

AFAIK, ZD registration is for IAF choppers. Maybe its a test bed intended for testing subsystems (you can see it has an IDAS, FLIR, winch, counter measure dispensers, and the 'pontoon') making it the most equipped ALH in the fleet
It could also be an airframe intended for displays (yet to see it anywhere though)

 

[Water Car Engineer]

That looks like something being tested for the IN, not the IAF. That box looks like a pontoon. @Capt.Popeye can confirm this. Version being developed for the IN?

But then, if it is a pontoon, why is the FLIR below water level? Anybody?


That's my snap By the way, they no longer allow anybody to the second floor of the museum. Tried couple of times

Also, are you shaitan?

I just figured it's the naval Dhruvs because of the retractable landing gear. I could be wrong. I am shaitan.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

That looks like something being tested for the IN, not the IAF. That box looks like a pontoon. @Capt.Popeye can confirm this. Version being developed for the IN?

But then, if it is a pontoon, why is the FLIR below water level? Anybody?

No idea about this prototype.
The FLIR on a Navalised version will not be below the hull/fuselage. And the IN has been looking for Folding Rotors and inflatable flotation gear in the wheel sponsons; not any pontoon-equipped version. The flotation gear is intended just to extend the flotation time in case of ditching on water, not to render it amphibious.

I just figured it's the naval Dhruvs because of the retractable landing gear. I could be wrong. I am shaitan.

All Navalised Dhruvs, i.e. configured for ship-borne ops will have wheeled landing gear, not skids.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Any info on this particular version? The serial number ZD-4165 indicates that it is an IAF chopper (also the roundel underneath) But the helo seems to be integrated with a FLIR turret and the IDAS self-defense suite from SAAB like the Rudras! Also note a box-like fitting behind the body (under the rear door placement)

Highly unusual..

View attachment 285836

Here's ZD-4164 identical to the above except for the FLIR turret and the winch. Were these two prototypes?

View attachment 285842

Not unusual, the ALH MK.3 has a full self defence suite as standard with an optional FLIR:

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Prototypes in the hanger

HAL's dedicated helicopter plant

 

[W@rwolf]

Do i see TD-4 in the background?? Any idea when the picture was taken?
AFAIK the TD-4 is undergoing ground tests or atleast has finished final checks.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Do i see TD-4 in the background?? Any idea when the picture was taken?
AFAIK the TD-4 is undergoing ground tests or atleast has finished final checks.

View attachment 286547

I dont think that's TD4, but TD4+. By now TD4 should be flight worthy. Never the less, good find!!

 

[Sliver]

see its (mast mounter fire control radar) is the next new must have tech for any attach chopper as it makes your smart rockets (like latest version of US hydra) a leathel ATGM with 1/10 the cost and is much lighter aswell compared to hellfire or helina we need it more than chinese or USA for such high altitude warfare where even MBTs are thinli aroured than regular MBTs

just look at the ammount of wepons carried by a viper helli and a LCH point is we need LCH very fast and in good numbers but looking at the pace of it its frustating to say the least

Mast mounted radar, I think LCH is so small to carry such system. It will add extra weigt to lch & destroy the very purpose of LCH ie high altitude operations in Himalayan areas,hope DRDO will go to drawing board for new powerful heavy class helicopter with radar.

what is the weight of a mast mounted radar i guess the whole kit is not heavier than 20KG but it can transform LCH into a very deadli yet cheap anty tank air asset instead of carrying 8 heavy fire and forget helinas it can carry four(with 8 rockets each= 4X8=32) pods of smart radar guided 70mm rockets with identical range ... think about it

from the LRDE - India

• Super Vision-2000, an airborne 3D naval surveillance radar, meant for helicopters and light transport aircraft. The SV-2000 is a lightweight, yet high performance, slotted array radar operating in the X Band. It can detect sea-surface targets such as a periscope or a vessel, against heavy clutter, and can also be used for navigation, weather mapping and beacon detection. The radar can detect a large vessel at over 100 nautical miles (370 km). It is currently under modification to be fitted to the Advanced Light Helicopter, and the Navy's Do-228's. Variants can be fitted to the Navy's Ka-25's as well.[10] The radar has been inducted by the Indian Navy and a more advanced variant of the Super Vision, known as the XV-2004 is now in production. The XV-2004 is also operational, and features an ISAR, SAR Capability.