HAL has retained its 38th ranking among the top 100 global aerospace companies.

[Imran Khan]

which CAC are you referring too ?

bhai jaan hum ne chor dee app ne shuru ker de lagta hai peeny

Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group

BHAI JEE HAHAHAHAAH


and were goes all these??????????


* Changhe Aircraft Industries Corporation
* China Aviation Industry Corporation
* ACAC consortium
* China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation
* Guizhou Aircraft Industry Co.
* Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation
* Hongdu Aviation Industry Corporation
* Shanghai Aviation Industrial Company
* Shanxi Aircraft Company
* Shenyang Aircraft Corporation
* Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation

 

[gogbot]

bhai jaan hum ne chor dee app ne shuru ker de lagta hai peeny

Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group

BHAI JEE HAHAHAHAAH


and were goes all these??????????


* Changhe Aircraft Industries Corporation
* China Aviation Industry Corporation
* ACAC consortium
* China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation
* Guizhou Aircraft Industry Co.
* Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation
* Hongdu Aviation Industry Corporation
* Shanghai Aviation Industrial Company
* Shanxi Aircraft Company
* Shenyang Aircraft Corporation
* Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation

Does China release Public info on the performance these firms ?

 

[IndianArmy]

I personally am Not surprised, HAL has been there ever since our Independence and Have only managed to be at 38th spot??? NAL Is given the same Amount of Infrastructure to Compete the HAL , why is it not able to?? Now We have to Put our Hopes on TATA aerospace LTd and Mahindra Aerospace Ltd , and If Possible Raja Hamsa ...

 

[Dash]

I personally am Not surprised, HAL has been there ever since our Independence and Have only managed to be at 38th spot??? NAL Is given the same Amount of Infrastructure to Compete the HAL , why is it not able to?? Now We have to Put our Hopes on TATA aerospace LTd and Mahindra Aerospace Ltd , and If Possible Raja Hamsa ...

Sir, HAL could have performed better if it was a private organization. The core work of HAL is not R&D and sell products rather its a govt org, which takes inputs from various other agencies and manufactures the product.

Being heavily dependent on Govt funding and lack of buyers and market, the position it has secured in that list is commendable.

 

[IndianArmy]

Sir, HAL could have performed better if it was a private organization. The core work of HAL is not R&D and sell products rather its a govt org, which takes inputs from various other agencies and manufactures the product.

Being heavily dependent on Govt funding and lack of buyers and market, the position it has secured in that list is commendable.

Who said HAL does not do R&D??? HAL is Funded By the Govt, HAL like any other private firm runs on its export turnover, and In addition to it the govt funds....

 

[LaBong]

Who said HAL does not do R&D??? HAL is Funded By the Govt, HAL like any other private firm runs on its export turnover, and In addition to it the govt funds....

HAL is not supposed to R&D. We have ADA for this. There was a thread in which Joe Shearer explained in more detail. Find out.

 

[Markus]

HAL is not supposed to R&D. We have ADA for this. There was a thread in which Joe Shearer explained in more detail. Find out.

HAL's R&D capabilities and its centers:-

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited

Check it out.

 

[IndianArmy]

HAL is not supposed to R&D. We have ADA for this. There was a thread in which Joe Shearer explained in more detail. Find out.

There are various Technical areas where HAL does R&D, U may by yourself Visit the HAL website for More details

 

[SpArK]

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited

 

[Dash]

Who said HAL does not do R&D??? HAL is Funded By the Govt, HAL like any other private firm runs on its export turnover, and In addition to it the govt funds....

Sir, I am not talking about HALs part time job. I am talking about HALs full time job here.

Our country itself is not a place where we belived in R&D, we rather wanted to be parasites to depend on others for all our defence needs. I read in this thread somebody has blamed HAL for not carrying Marut forward, but they forgot that our then theen friend Russia refused to give us rights for an advanced engine and its manufacture in India which made Marut underpowered and not prefered by IAF.

Still blame HAL??, I say no....

They are though a public sector company but merely the decision is always taken is not that a company takes for itself. If we were to blame HAL for not securing a better position, we need to blame the India defence policy on aquisitions and FDI.

The first thing that a company wants is a market. Our defence is completly a foreign vendors paradise.

Blaming HAL is like blaming DRDO over Arjun tank. They did their job but our system crippeled them.

 

[Markus]

Sir, I am not talking about HALs part time job. I am talking about HALs full time job here.

There is no aerospace copany which has ONLY R&D as a full time job, if it was, you would be called a research institute and not an aerospace company.

Our country itself is not a place where we belived in R&D, we rather wanted to be parasites to depend on others for all our defence needs. I read in this thread somebody has blamed HAL for not carrying Marut forward, but they forgot that our then theen friend Russia refused to give us rights for an advanced engine and its manufacture in India which made Marut underpowered and not prefered by IAF.

This is why we have to focus more on R&D and rely less on others, even if it is Russia. If technology was a problem in 60s and 70s, whats the problem today, we have the money and brains to undertake research today, should be done at any cost.

They are though a public sector company but merely the decision is always taken is not that a company takes for itself. If we were to blame HAL for not securing a better position, we need to blame the India defence policy on aquisitions and FDI.

Nobody is blaming HAL alone, the MoD is equally responsible but the change has to to be brought about by the HAL management first, they shld take the initiative.

The first thing that a company wants is a market. Our defence is completly a foreign vendors paradise.

Blaming HAL is like blaming DRDO over Arjun tank. They did their job but our system crippeled them.

Nobody is saying they have not done their job but what else they could do to rise above others and create a name for themselves. The experience gained during Marut should have taken forward,

Its a good company, its time to make it the BEST.

 

[IndianArmy]

Sir, I am not talking about HALs part time job. I am talking about HALs full time job here.

R&D is not HAL's Part time Job sir, Its Just not what they are Known for, HAL Does R&D in Communication,Avionics and Designing and Many Electrical Fields.... And ADA is a Main Stream Research Establishment for Aerospace Ventures , and Only R&D....

Our country itself is not a place where we belived in R&D, we rather wanted to be parasites to depend on others for all our defence needs. I read in this thread somebody has blamed HAL for not carrying Marut forward, but they forgot that our then theen friend Russia refused to give us rights for an advanced engine and its manufacture in India which made Marut underpowered and not prefered by IAF.

Marut Failed because our Nuclear Tests Succeeded, We were put forth with a Lot of Restrictions and It was the Fate of Soviet Union to Abide the International Law

Still blame HAL??, I say no....

Still Blame HAL?? I say Yes..... Why? Because HAL has Been Provided with World Class Infrastructure, Technical Knowledge with Various TOT's Since 1990's, Various Joint Ventures, and Still Struggling with an aircraft.....

They are though a public sector company but merely the decision is always taken is not that a company takes for itself. If we were to blame HAL for not securing a better position, we need to blame the India defence policy on aquisitions and FDI.

HAL is Allowed to take decision to the interest of the Govt , why would it have its own Interest?? as Its Not dependent on Profit but Mere Govt Fundings....

The first thing that a company wants is a market. Our defence is completly a foreign vendors paradise.

Well, Even if it was a Private Sector company, it cannot Enter into a Joint venture or sell its Product without Looking into govt's Interest

Blaming HAL is like blaming DRDO over Arjun tank. They did their job but our system crippeled them.

Well Who is to be Blamed than the Responsible???

 

[LaBong]

There are various Technical areas where HAL does R&D, U may by yourself Visit the HAL website for More details

HAL's R&D capabilities and its centers:-

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited

Check it out.

Hi,
It's only recent update and mainly on HAL's own initiatives. ADA does the bulk of designing and R&D stuffs. HAL is there to integrate.

 

[Markus]

Hi,
It's only recent update and mainly on HAL's own initiatives. ADA does the bulk of designing and R&D stuffs. HAL is there to integrate.

HAL website says, R&D began in 1951.

 

[IndianArmy]

Hi,
It's only recent update and mainly on HAL's own initiatives. ADA does the bulk of designing and R&D stuffs. HAL is there to integrate.

Oh dear, a Company with no R&D will not Survive, and Its Not a recent Update, they have been Into this Ever since there creation....