'Hagia Sophia might be converted to a mosque': Erdogan

[Azadkashmir]

I think russia turkey pak iran alliance is what one should strive for.
I love the ottomans but new era is here.

 

[MMM-E]

First Ezan in Hagia Sophia after 85 years

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This rift a is cause of past wars. what is needed is alliance in this new era against western aggression. For all we know these past events were orchestrated so in the future, we could never unite against the true satanic forces of western imperialist.

I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think you quite understand the Orthodox Christian mind. They have been screaming for revenge for the Islamic conquest on Constantinople for centuries. This has led them to behave violently and brutally with Muslim populations which have fallen under their grip (Caucasus, Balkans, Greece, Russia, Azeris.)

With Communism gone and Orthodox religiosity returning to Russia and the Balkans, we are not heading towards an alliance but a confrontation. Putin may be a sensible man when it comes to Muslim nations, but he is just one man, how will he be able to stem the Orthodox fervor and racial re-awakening of Russia.

I respect Imran N. Hosein as an Islamic scholar and for his great depth of knowledge about Dajjal, Riba, and Akhir uz Zaman. In fact, I knew him personally for many years. I disagree with his current analysis and I find it dangerous.

We Muslims can never abandon our Turkish brothers and Sisters in favor of peace with the Orthodox world. Ottomans ruled the Orthodox nations with peace and justice, yet Russia and the West sought to destroy that.

You cannot appease these kuffar, and you cannot sell-out your fellow Muslims. You will be left all alone without any supporters.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I think russia turkey pak iran alliance is what one should strive for.
I love the ottomans but new era is here.

I disagree. Muslims need to form an alliance firstly between ourselves, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, then perhaps in the future with KSA (once fallout with US occurs.) Secondly, instead of seeking Russia, we should move closer to China, a nation with which we historically have had no problems with and have coexisted with for centuries.

The US is on the verge of total collapse economically and politically. I believe (I may be wrong) Russia will take full advantage of this weakness to get revenge on the US. We Muslims should stay clear of such a war between Kaffir nations.

It is imperative that we work on economically and militarily building our nations, because a major war is coming very soon. Israel's involvement in Kashmir against Pakistan and the current seizure of Golan Heights is proof.

If we choose to read our sahih hadith, an alliance between Muslims and Christians will take place, after which Christians will betray Muslims, and in another place it is mentioned that Istanbul will have to be reconquered by Muslims.

Why doesn't Sheikh imran N. Hosein talk about this betrayal?

 

[Successwill]

He didnt say like the title of this thread says. He said "We can rename it as Ayasofya Camii" Currently its name Ayasofya Müzesi

 

[Yankee-stani]

I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think you quite understand the Orthodox Christian mind. They have been screaming for revenge for the Islamic conquest on Constantinople for centuries. This has led them to behave violently and brutally with Muslim populations which have fallen under their grip (Caucasus, Balkans, Greece, Russia, Azeris.)

With Communism gone and Orthodox religiosity returning to Russia and the Balkans, we are not heading towards an alliance but a confrontation. Putin may be a sensible man when it comes to Muslim nations, but he is just one man, how will he be able to stem the Orthodox fervor and racial re-awakening of Russia.

I respect Imran N. Hosein as an Islamic scholar and for his great depth of knowledge about Dajjal, Riba, and Akhir uz Zaman. In fact, I knew him personally for many years. I disagree with his current analysis and I find it dangerous.

We Muslims can never abandon our Turkish brothers and Sisters in favor of peace with the Orthodox world. Ottomans ruled the Orthodox nations with peace and justice, yet Russia and the West sought to destroy that.

You cannot appease these kuffar, and you cannot sell-out your fellow Muslims. You will be left all alone without any supporters.

I am taking the Centrist approach here I really think if you look at this the ((Jews)) or as I call them nation wreckers yes they are you have to look what they did to the Ottoman Empire a century ago by making it a degenrate and its Sultans decadent whores, who were willing to kill off the Turkish majority to please the Anglo Saxon puppets and their Orthodox Balkan counterparts and the traitor Arabs who fought with the Anglos against the Ottomans if it were not for Mustafa Kemal Ataturk the nation of Turkey would have not exisited in its current form it would have been Megali Hellas(Greater Greece) and what out other crappy irenditist dreams those Ottoman minority groups here I feel we are heading to such confrontation because the fifth column ((Jewish)) traitors in both Turkey and Russia are inching for wars between the Slavs and the Turkics

 

[Azadkashmir]

I disagree. Muslims need to form an alliance firstly between ourselves, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, then perhaps in the future with KSA (once fallout with US occurs.) Secondly, instead of seeking Russia, we should move closer to China, a nation with which we historically have had no problems with and have coexisted with for centuries.

The US is on the verge of total collapse economically and politically. I believe (I may be wrong) Russia will take full advantage of this weakness to get revenge on the US. We Muslims should stay clear of such a war between Kaffir nations.

It is imperative that we work on economically and militarily building our nations, because a major war is coming very soon. Israel's involvement in Kashmir against Pakistan and the current seizure of Golan Heights is proof.

If we choose to read our sahih hadith, an alliance between Muslims and Christians will take place, after which Christians will betray Muslims, and in another place it is mentioned that Istanbul will have to be reconquered by Muslims.

Why doesn't Sheikh imran N. Hosein talk about this betrayal?

I would say that russia has two faces - the magog and the christians. One the most hardcore zionist type jews khazars are from russia.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I disagree. Muslims need to form an alliance firstly between ourselves, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, then perhaps in the future with KSA (once fallout with US occurs.) Secondly, instead of seeking Russia, we should move closer to China, a nation with which we historically have had no problems with and have coexisted with for centuries.

The US is on the verge of total collapse economically and politically. I believe (I may be wrong) Russia will take full advantage of this weakness to get revenge on the US. We Muslims should stay clear of such a war between Kaffir nations.

It is imperative that we work on economically and militarily building our nations, because a major war is coming very soon. Israel's involvement in Kashmir against Pakistan and the current seizure of Golan Heights is proof.

If we choose to read our sahih hadith, an alliance between Muslims and Christians will take place, after which Christians will betray Muslims, and in another place it is mentioned that Istanbul will have to be reconquered by Muslims.

Why doesn't Sheikh imran N. Hosein talk about this betrayal?

Good analysis by OP here I really dont trust the Slavic nations with exception of Bosnia as its a Muslim nation and they were subjected to harsh attacks by their Orthodox counterparts as for the PRC I am for alliance with the PRC as they really have no historic qualms towards the Central Asian neighbors and they in the past have had issues with Russia recent times the Sino-Soviet spilt of the 1960s,1970s,and 1980s plus Russian imperialism in Xinjiang, and Northeastern China the takeover of Siberia in the 1800s from the Qing Dynasty as well I do see Russian and Chinese going to a confronation the reapprocament since the 1990s and 2000s will wither away as Russia sees the PRC as threat than ally

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

if it were not for Mustafa Kemal Ataturk the nation of Turkey would have not exisited in its current form it would have been Megali Hellas(Greater Greece)

Great man who he was, we salute his valor and bravery.

Gazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha Atatürk

inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon

 

[Yankee-stani]

I would say that russia has two faces - the magog and the christians. One the most hardcore zionist type jews khazars are from russia.

True most of the Russian emegres in America are Jews actually in the 1970s there was an agreement between Brzenev the Soviet leader and Nixon over Soviet Jewish immigration between the 1970s and 1990s NYC and the Northeast saw an influx of Russian Jews and they are solid political block in NYC now espacilly in Brooklyn and in Queens where I live

Great man who he was, we salute his valor and bravery.

Gazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha Atatürk

inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon

Shame most so called Arab *** kissers and so called Islamists hate him if it were not for his reforms and his valor the nation of Turkey would not exist today

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I would say that russia has two faces - the magog and the christians. One the most hardcore zionist type jews khazars are from russia.

I think that Turkey and Pakistan will always be reviled by Russian nationalists. Our ancestors dominated Russia for centuries as the Golden Horde and subsequent Turkic empires. Both of us devastated their dreams of world domination in different eras (Imperial Russia, USSR.) They may have made peace with us for now, but be careful of the nature of Russia, it is very vengeful.

We represent the spirit of Ghazis and the strength of the warrior believer. We will always be a threat to any world power which attempts to dominate the Muslim world.

 

[SQ8]

Horrible idea- when Hazrat Umar refused to turn a church into a mosque then that is the example to follow.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I think that Turkey and Pakistan will always be reviled by Russian nationalists. Our ancestors dominated Russia for centuries as the Golden Horde and subsequent Turkic empires. Both of us devastated their dreams of world domination in different eras (Imperial Russia, USSR.) They may have made peace with us for now, but be careful of the nature of Russia, it is very vengeful.

We represent the spirit of Ghazis and the strength of the warrior believer. We will always be a threat to any world power which attempts to dominate the Muslim world.

OP is right here 1000 percent the Mongol Hordes ruled Russia for about 300 years also you have to make a clear distinction between Putin and his Russian Nationalism his nationalism is Soviet Nationalism the nationalism he grew up with when the USSR was a nationalities of Slavic,Turkic, Mongol, Caucausian, and Baltic however when he retires I think Russian nationalism will change to more Slavic dominated type and dont be fooled by the this is non-white white fight Caucuasians,Baltics and some Turkic groups are very white but this about Slavic domination of all groups were talking here

 

[Kambojaric]

Unlikely. In normal days Sultan Ahmet just a throw stone away gets a handful of worshippers. The wider area is not residential. Converting it into a mosque will therefore not be a matter of practical need but a symbolic sign which will cause a rift with the increasingly orthodox nations in the region especially Russia. Would be an unnecessary move from a Turkish geopolitical point of view. Think this is simply Erdogan attracting voters.

 

[jamal18]

It was built by the Christians as a church. Give it back to them, and make it a church.