'Hagia Sophia might be converted to a mosque': Erdogan

[bsruzm]

Turkey is NOT with Muslims but with NATO. Erdogan like current day Persian empire is just playing games with them.

Have you ever heard of Trojan Horse? It's in Turkey.

 

[HannibalBarca]

I thought Muslims were not allowed to take over with force and convert places of worship?

Would be a better move if he gave it back to orthodox Christians.



That move isn't from Orthodoxy

It's from Christian-zionism which is completely different.

Will you give back Mosques turned into Churches in Spain? Malta? Greece? or in the Eastern Europe? ...
Why do you wish others to abide by what you do not?

And yes, I agree... In Islam EVERY place of worship shall be preserved TO CALL for GOD.
Sophia Mosque wasn't turned into a Mosque in a day... Christians were still praying in it... but they became a minority in Istanbul and therefore Turned into a Mosque, for 600 years...

Many Churches/Synagogues in the Islamic world stayed as such... for 1400 years... never touched neither turned into Mosques...

RIGHT NOW in the Muslim world... They are building more Churches than in Europe itself...
RIGHT NOW in the Western World... Building a Mosque is the hardest thing to do... Even asking an authorization for a 50m² place to pray is like asking the moon...

In Italy...per exemple...Islam is not recognized... and Building a Mosque is Forbidden.

 

[Englishman]

Will you give back Mosques turned into Churches in Spain? Malta? Greece? or in the Eastern Europe? ...
Why do you wish others to abide by what you do not?

And yes, I agree... In Islam EVERY place of worship shall be preserved TO CALL for GOD.
Sophia Mosque wasn't turned into a Mosque in a day... Christians were still praying in it... but they became a minority in Istanbul and therefore Turned into a Mosque, for 600 years...

Many Churches/Synagogues in the Islamic world stayed as such... for 1400 years... never touched neither turned into Mosques...

RIGHT NOW in the Muslim world... They are building more Churches than in Europe itself...
RIGHT NOW in the Western World... Building a Mosque is the hardest thing to do... Even asking an authorization for a 50m² place to pray is like asking the moon...

In Italy...per exemple...Islam is not recognized... and Building a Mosque is Forbidden.

I know all that pal.

Perhaps you are no better?

There's an eye for an eye and then there's something to be said about being coy and smart.

 

[fitpOsitive]

We renovated Kartarpur for those Sikhs, who are in great numbers in Indian Army. And that changed a lot on Indian side for us, and for good.
My Turkish brothers, just hand over Hagia Sophia to orthodox Christians, and that will change a lot for Turkey in many parts of this world, and for good.
You can construct thousands of masjid on other places, and near, but this move will be a big checkmate to your enemies.

@Hakikat ve Hikmet
@bsruzm @CAN_TR
@KingWest @MMM-E

 

[HannibalBarca]

I know all that pal.

Perhaps you are no better?

There's an eye for an eye and then there's something to be said about being coy and smart.

I actually proved you that Muslims in that matter are better...
ISLAM do not "FORCE" conversion of Churches into Mosques... Something Christians history did "AUTOMATICALLY" and "SYSTEMATICALLY".

So there is no "an eye for an eye"...
But just wanted to point out the "Hypocrisy" of a mindset... and their "fake outrageous" behavior in that specific event...

Here an exemple in Tunisia... Where we've got a Cathedral right in the center of the Capital city... Where the only soul to be in...is the priest... And the few Tourist who want to get in...
AND YET after Centuries and Centuries...We could have turned it into a Mosque... But We didn't...

 

[SQ8]

Go for it.


20% of what Imran Hossein says is true. The rest 80% is either lies or ignorance. He has some dangerous views.


It was a mosque from 1453-1935. Almost 5 centuries.

It was still a bad idea. Unless it was originally a mosque during constantinople times; then its a Church and should be left that way.

 

[HannibalBarca]

It was still a bad idea. Unless it was originally a mosque during constantinople times; then its a Church and should be left that way.

No...it should be used if Christians aren't using it... Otherwise they get left in dust... and God/ALLAH wouldn't be uttered anymore...
Same for mosques who are left behind like in Spain... I personally do not mind it being turned into a Church after they expelled all the Muslims by force.

But the problem arise when the other side try to play the "Fairness" game... out of their smoking pocket... and use their arrogant "Posture" of "You did wrong"... when in fact... we did better than their 2000 years of faith...

 

[bsruzm]

We renovated Kartarpur for those Sikhs, who are in great numbers in Indian Army. And that changed a lot on Indian side for us, and for good.
My Turkish brothers, just hand over Hagia Sophia to orthodox Christians, and that will change a lot for Turkey in many parts of this world, and for good.
You can construct thousands of masjid on other places, and near, but this move will be a big checkmate to your enemies.

@Hakikat ve Hikmet
@bsruzm @CAN_TR
@KingWest @MMM-E

Don't tag me for such thing, it is betrayal.

 

[Englishman]

No...it should be used if Christians aren't using it... Otherwise they get left in dust... and God/ALLAH wouldn't be uttered anymore...
Same for mosques who are left behind like in Spain... I personally do not mind it being turned into a Church after they expelled all the Muslims by force.

But the problem arise when the other side try to play the "Fairness" game... out of their smoking pocket... and use their arrogant "Posture" of "You did wrong"... when in fact... we did better than their 2000 years of faith...

Like I said you have no idea of the strategic implications of handing this back to orthodox Christians...especially Russians whom you may need as allies one day.

The fact that you used the Golan heights as justification further demonstrates that you lack historical insight into this matter. The people you took this church from are completely different to Christian-zionists.

Just take a step back and consider the 2 scenarios:

1. Hagia sophia returned to orthodoxy. Christians celebrate across the world. You may even get world leaders coming to open it. Huge ceremony.....black black

2. Hagia Sophia now a mosque. Christians pissed off.....you can envisage the rest.

 

[Reddington]

Like I said you have no idea of the strategic implications of handing this back to orthodox Christians...especially Russians whom you may need as allies one day.

The fact that you used the Golan heights as justification further demonstrates that you lack historical insight into this matter. The people you took this church from are completely different to Christian-zionists.

Putin himself is surrounded by Zionist Jews. They give him large sum of donations as well.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Like I said you have no idea of the strategic implications of handing this back to orthodox Christians...especially Russians whom you may need as allies one day.

The fact that you used the Golan heights as justification further demonstrates that you lack historical insight into this matter. The people you took this church from are completely different to Christian-zionists.

It's because Orthodox Christians are important, that Sophia mosque is a Museum...
And Russia is an Ally to herself... And making it a Church will not change much... The hardcore among them... who are leading their community... WANT Istanbul... aka Constantinople...

And since when did I spoke about Golan?

 

[Englishman]

Putin himself is surrounded by Zionist Jews. They give him large sum of donations as well.

Putin STOPPED a full blown invasion of Syria by the US and it's Zionist allies.

Do u realise how much that set their plan back?

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Eastern Christians destroyed almost all mosques in Balkans

and there are not even mosque in Athens/Greece and there are only one mosque in Sophia/Bulgaria

Happening from centuries. We also destroyed Idols in Makkah under the leadership of Muhammad.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Happening from centuries. We also destroyed Idols in Makkah under the leadership of Muhammad.

Good riddance.

 

[Reddington]

Putin STOPPED a full blown invasion of Syria by the US and it's Zionist allies.

Do u realise how much that set their plan back?

That's what 99% of the people get it wrong. It was never about stopping or conquering or winning.