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H-6K is nearing invincibility: Sputnik News

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A H-6K bomber. (Internet photo)

Capable of carrying seven YJ-12 supersonic antiship cruise missiles or CJ-20 subsonic land attack cruise missiles, the PLA Air Force's H-6K strategic bomber is going to be nearly invincible in future aerial warfare over the Western Pacific, according to the Moscow-based Sputnik News.

The combat radius of a H-6J bomber is estimated to be 1,900 kilometers, said the report. With the assistance of aerial refueling aircraft, the combat radius of the bomber will be gradually expand to 3,200 kilometers.

Currently, the PLA Air Force operates a total number of 26 H-6K bombers. During several exercises held in the past, the H-6K was proven capable of long-range penetration into enemy air space, said the report.
Unlike the US Air Force's B-2 bomber, the H-6K, modeled after the Soviet Union's Cold War era Tu-16 bomber, has no stealth capabilities. However, the new YJ-12 and CJ-20 missile systems will allow the bomber to launch an attack a safe distance from enemy air defense systems, said the report.

The lacking of a proper weapon aiming system is the only weakness of the H-6 bomber. China is still unable to develop or purchase the device regularly, delaying the strategic bomber from gaining the ability to launch precision attacks against targets. The only strategy left is for the bomber to compensate by launching more missiles than the enemy, according to the article.

H-6K is nearing invincibility: Sputnik News|WCT
 
Also, the H6K, no doubt gives China quite some capabilities. But it lacks in many areas.

  1. The range is not enough for strategic missions.
  2. The bomber is not stealth, and as such is very easily trackable. One good missile can take the bomber down.
  3. It can only be operated over friendly territory and airspace.

1. False. If combat radius 3500km is not consider a strategic bomber then I do not what shall it be called? 3500km combat radius means ferry range of 7000km to 8000km. That does not included drop tank or the range of DF-10 cruise missile which will extend the attacking range by another at least 2000km. Making it intercontinental or pearl harbour capable if launch from Chinese side.

2. True. But it's design to be a standoff platform which will be out of enemy air defense. Stealth is not critical. Just like US B-52 and Russian Tu-95 which both are still in service and use by their respective airforce.

3. True. China is near surrounded by hostile US airbase in Japan and SK or Guam. That is why China strategic ballistic missile is very important in warfare against US. The barrage of missile needs to knock out all nearby US facilities before H-6K can fly out to western pacific.
 
No need to divert thread.



No need to be a troll, and post such illogical, and reckless posts. Chinese actually invented gunpowder, rocketry and the like.



True. Russians are known for their one sided reporting. You have also seen that in their lingering arrogance in supposed continued military technology supremacy over China.

Also, the H6K, no doubt gives China quite some capabilities. But it lacks in many areas.

  1. The range is not enough for strategic missions.
  2. The bomber is not stealth, and as such is very easily trackable. One good missile can take the bomber down.
  3. It can only be operated over friendly territory and airspace.

Why China don't make something similar to Russia Tu-22 but stick to this too old platform?
 
Why China don't make something similar to Russia Tu-22 but stick to this too old platform?

There are actually advantages in sticking with old platforms, as in, that the airframe has stood the test of time, and has turned to be reliable. Something like the Flanker series airframes.

So, with the same airframes, the aircraft can be updates, because designing a new airframe, and then testing, and operationalizing it is costly and imprudent.

It should be undertaken only when the current airframe isn't able to meet next requirements.

For example, American U 2 has a remarkable history.

Chinese aviation industry is just beginning to take off, and I do think, that within the next 10 years, we will see a new prototype of a manned stealth bomber. Perhaps to be deployed by 2030.
 
There are actually advantages in sticking with old platforms, as in, that the airframe has stood the test of time, and has turned to be reliable. Something like the Flanker series airframes.

So, with the same airframes, the aircraft can be updates, because designing a new airframe, and then testing, and operationalizing it is costly and imprudent.

It should be undertaken only when the current airframe isn't able to meet next requirements.

For example, American U 2 has a remarkable history.

Chinese aviation industry is just beginning to take off, and I do think, that within the next 10 years, we will see a new prototype of a manned stealth bomber. Perhaps to be deployed by 2030.

This Tu-16 design simply too old, cant compare to the longlasting B52 and Tu 160 which still in service.

Flanker is quite new platform.
 
TU-16 may be an old designed but the update D-30KP-2 powered H-6K is not quite the same.

Anyway the H-6K may be an interim long range bomber until the new stealth bomber models are unveiled.

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This is the original TU-16 below
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TU-16 may be an old designed but the update D-30KP-2 powered H-6K is not quite the same.

Anyway the H-6K may be an interim long range bomber until the new stealth bomber models are unveiled.

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This is the original TU-16 below
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around 10 tons of ammunition.
subsonic

tell me what's new?
 
around 10 tons of ammunition.
subsonic

tell me what's new?
New radar installed and powerful ECM which can encounter incoming missile. The sheer size of the nose cone and bigger ECM system shall give you the idea of the raw power of its electronic capabilites.
 
New radar installed and powerful ECM which can encounter incoming missile. The sheer size of the nose cone and bigger ECM system shall give you the idea of the raw power of its electronic capabilites.

Su-34 is much better choice.
or Tu-22M
 
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Su-34 is much better choice.
or Tu-22M
Su-34 lacks the payload and range of H-6K. Tu-22M with its geometry mechanical wing proves very expensive to maintain.
Different profile , different mission and purpose. You cant have bomber that fits all profile and criteria.

 
Su-34 payload 12,000kgs range 4,000km ( and air refuel available ) and could beat even other Flankers like Su-27, Su-30. So it's not bad choice.

Believe me, Tu-22M is best choice for China. Forget that oldman Tu-16

Su-34 lacks the payload and range of H-6K. Tu-22M with its geometry mechanical wing proves very expensive to maintain.
Different profile , different mission and purpose. You cant have bomber that fits all profile and criteria.

 
Su-34 payload 12,000kgs range 4,000km ( and air refuel available ) and could beat even other Flankers like Su-27, Su-30. So it's not bad choice.

Believe me, Tu-22M is best choice for China. Forget that oldman Tu-16

H-6K payload is 17tons not the 10tons you mention. The old H-6U can carry 14tons. New H-6K fitted with more powerful and more efficient D-30KP-2 turbofan, you think the payload will decrease or increase? Not to mention new air frame using lighter and stronger alloy that may even derease H-6K weight compare to old H-6 bomber. That allow even higher payload. 17tons is a very modest estimation. I will not be suprised actual payload is 19tons.

H-6K combat radius is 3500km that mean its ferry range is more than 7500km that is excluding if H-6K did not carry anymore droptank. on its wing , more than Su-34 4000km. Did you failed your maths?
 
H-6K payload is 17tons not the 10tons you mention. The old H-6U can carry 14tons. New H-6K fitted with more powerful and more efficient D-30KP-2 turbofan, you think the payload will decrease or increase?

H-6K combat radius is 3500km that mean its ferry range is more than 7500km that is excluding if H-6K did not carry anymore droptank. on its wing , more than Su-34 4000km. Did you failed your maths?

simply I have no source said H6 could bring 17 tons
combat radius 3,500km included the shooting range of missiles it bringing.
 
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