Gwadar another Dubai emerging on world map: Chinese media

[Joe Shearer]

What are you doing here if you are not obsessed with Pakistan and everything with Pakistan? He has a point. Answer him.

His points were

1. CPEC is a good thing;
2. He has kept himself aloof from Indians.

So? Which needs answer? Perhaps a smiley is what you are looking for, since that seems to be your chosen mode of communications?

 

[war&peace]

You're right, Pakistan's existence does not depend on CPEC. CPEC is just the beginning of a new age of prosperity for Pakistan. If others like you don't care whether Pakistan develops or not then what are you and the rest of your kind doing on pdf? You are more then welcome to leave. It would be fantastic if you did. I myself have never ever visited or ever endorsed any indian website, forum, program, film or anything remotely indian whatsoever.

Indians are extremely obsessed with Pakistan and many of my western colleagues tell me about their interactions with Indian people here. I used to ignore it initially and but now I'm convinced that most of them have an anti-Pakistan agenda and that runs deep into their faith...basically it is the same Bharat mata concept preached to them in Mandir and schools. Approx. three-quarters of the century have passed but that's ingrained into their minds and even if the apparently talk about peace, their hidden agenda is to get Pakistan into India and I'm not saying all of them are like that but a vast majority of Indian hindus believes in it.
Not only pdf but they event watch and comment on all Pakistani current affairs programs on youtube.

 

[Finer]

His points were

1. CPEC is a good thing;
2. He has kept himself aloof from Indians.

So? Which needs answer? Perhaps a smiley is what you are looking for, since that seems to be your chosen mode of communications?

Again you are avoiding. If you are not obsessed with Pakistan and everything-oriented about Pakistan, then what are you doing here?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Again you are avoiding. If you are not obsessed with Pakistan and everything-oriented about Pakistan, then what are you doing here?

I am here discussing military history, with occasional diversions to other areas. I joined in 2009 and have posted ove 10,000 messages; response to these are on record.

You joined in 2013 and posted 695 messages. What are you doing here?

 

[SrNair]

You're right, Pakistan's existence does not depend on CPEC. CPEC is just the beginning of a new age of prosperity for Pakistan. If others like you don't care whether Pakistan develops or not then what are you and the rest of your kind doing on pdf? You are more then welcome to leave. It would be fantastic if you did. I myself have never ever visited or ever endorsed any indian website, forum, program, film or anything remotely indian whatsoever.

If you are so pure from top to bottom like one respected professional said here why should you post threads about India?.
If others including Indians post reply to that threads why would you post reply for that in there?

Shall I post link of such threads?
India is our nation.We will react to the comments of foreigners about our nation
whether you likes or not.
If you dont want Indians here then you can ask the mods to totally ban India based topics including our J&K and Indians in here.
Noone use our nation's name here.
Do that if you want.

Indians are extremely obsessed with Pakistan and many of my western colleagues tell me about their interactions with Indian people here. I used to ignore it initially and but now I'm convinced that most of them have an anti-Pakistan agenda and that runs deep into their faith...basically it is the same Bharat mata concept preached to them in Mandir and schools. Approx. three-quarters of the century have passed but that's ingrained into their minds and even if the apparently talk about peace, their hidden agenda is to get Pakistan into India and I'm not saying all of them are like that but a vast majority of Indian hindus believes in it.
Not only pdf but they event watch and comment on all Pakistani current affairs programs on youtube.

Oh yes .
How could we ignore the accomplishment of Pakistan?
They are soooooooo successful in each and every field starting from development to space.

There is no such mandir teachings here.
Our kids only opt modern education and as an Indian that brought from good such circumstances.I can say Pakistan,religion etc are not a fractional subject in our syllabus.
Our educational system is totally based on
our Geography,History and Indian Constitution.

Why should we waste our resources for a neighbour that described her father as a 'moth eaten'?
If you want more then start new thread.
No more offtopic here.

 

[Finer]

I am here discussing military history, with occasional diversions to other areas. I joined in 2009 and have posted ove 10,000 messages; response to these are on record.

You joined in 2013 and posted 695 messages. What are you doing here?

You are drifting from the topic again. Let me repeat in the most simplest way.

What are you doing here if you are not obsessed with Pakistan and everything about Pakistan? Not surprised with your stupid question.

 

[Max Pain]

You are drifting from the topic again. Let me repeat in the most simplest way.

What are you doing here if you are not obsessed with Pakistan and everything about Pakistan? Not surprised with your stupid question.

He like many other indian members here will stray away from the topic, and come up with lame logics to hide their obsession but wont answer what he's asked for.

dont you get it by now.

 

[ito]

I very much doubt it. Who is going to use Gwadar? I only see China and to some extent Pakistan. I hardly see any other countries in this region using gwadar for their international trade.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

If you are so pure from top to bottom like one respected professional said here why should you post threads about India?.
If others including Indians post reply to that threads why would you post reply for that in there?

Shall I post link of such threads?
India is our nation.We will react to the comments of foreigners about our nation
whether you likes or not.
If you dont want Indians here then you can ask the mods to totally ban India based topics including our J&K and Indians in here.
Noone use our nation's name here.
Do that if you want.



Oh yes .
How could we ignore the accomplishment of Pakistan?
They are soooooooo successful in each and every field starting from development to space.

There is no such mandir teachings here.
Our kids only opt modern education and as an Indian that brought from good such circumstances.I can say Pakistan,religion etc are not a fractional subject in our syllabus.
Our educational system is totally based on
our Geography,History and Indian Constitution.

Why should we waste our resources for a neighbour that described her father as a 'moth eaten'?
If you want more then start new thread.
No more offtopic here.

To me india is a monster, an enemy state that is 8 times bigger than us, that poses a threat to my unique race and our way of life. For that reason I discuss this evil monstrosity on a PAKISTANI forum as I'm a Pakistani patriot. I don't feel the need to go to an enemy indian website/forum to express my opinions nor do I care about the thoughts, delusions and opinions of our enemies. Or what they say or think. That is because I have convictions, beliefs and faith in my race, religion, culture and way of life.

If you REALLY did believe in the power & greatness of the indian race and nation, and in your culture, religion and indian way of life then you would NEVER EVER be on defence.pk. You would be amongst your own. You being here, shows that you have little faith in your race and nation which is why you have to be on your enemy's forum trying to somehow justify and validate your opinions and belief to your enemies. That is the height of insecurity.

I very much doubt it. Who is going to use Gwadar? I only see China and to some extent Pakistan. I hardly see any other countries in this region using gwadar for their international trade.

And that was never the intention. It was always about China & Pakistan. And as China is 1 of only 2 nations on the planet that is a superpower (set to become the world's 1st ever global hyperpower that no nation on earth can never ever match) that is all that is needed for success. The thoughts and opinions of random trolls does not change this ground reality and ingrained fact.

Indians are extremely obsessed with Pakistan and many of my western colleagues tell me about their interactions with Indian people here. I used to ignore it initially and but now I'm convinced that most of them have an anti-Pakistan agenda and that runs deep into their faith...basically it is the same Bharat mata concept preached to them in Mandir and schools. Approx. three-quarters of the century have passed but that's ingrained into their minds and even if the apparently talk about peace, their hidden agenda is to get Pakistan into India and I'm not saying all of them are like that but a vast majority of Indian hindus believes in it.
Not only pdf but they event watch and comment on all Pakistani current affairs programs on youtube.

The indians on pdf are here on their enemy's forum because they are insecure with regards to their race, culture, nation and way of life. If they weren't then they would leave never to return. I have often thought about this, if I were the same with regards to Pakistan, I would go to some indian website/forum and try to troll and be obnoxious there. That is a reality that no one can deny.

 

[Finer]

I very much doubt it. Who is going to use Gwadar? I only see China and to some extent Pakistan. I hardly see any other countries in this region using gwadar for their international trade.

The purpose of Gwadar port is to expand from Pakistan to all the directions in the future. From China to the North/East, Afghanistan to the Central Asia, Iran to the Turkey [possible] and Middle East.

He like many other indian members here will stray away from the topic, and come up with lame logics to hide their obsession but wont answer what he's asked for.

dont you get it by now.

That doesn't mean they should be let off the hook. They should use reminder more often.

 

[ito]

The purpose of Gwadar port is to expand from Pakistan to all the directions in the future. From China to the North/East, Afghanistan to the Central Asia, Iran to the Turkey [possible] and Middle East.

Gwadar has some attraction for Afghanistan. I don't see Iran will see Gwadar positively, it has Chabahar. Afghanistan now has another option in Chabahar, For Central Asia there are much more attractive and safer routes. I don't see how Turkey and Middle East will benefit from Gwadar after all they are directly connected to sea. Moreover, the controversies that CPEC is facing could make the whole project quite risky.

 

[Finer]

Gwadar has some attraction for Afghanistan. I don't see Iran will see Gwadar positively, it has Chabahar. Afghanistan now has another option in Chabahar, For Central Asia there are much more attractive and safer routes. I don't see how Turkey and Middle East will benefit from Gwadar after all they are directly connected to sea. Moreover, the controversies that CPEC is facing could make the whole project quite risky.

I think Iran is fooling India big time. There is no way Iran will choose one nation over the international trade route, CPEC. Pakistan-Afghanistan transit is already used. Iran has been meaning for the trade route with Pakistan for a while. China has bigger market to fetch hence Pakistan as geographical route to connect to the Middle East and Central Asia through Afghanistan. Pakistan-Afghanistan is already on board citing Pakistan-Afghanistan transit which has denied India being part of Pakistan-Afghanistan transit not long ago. Pakistan is in the middle that connects to all the directions whereas India cannot since it is blocked by Pakistan as geographical location. Pakistan is just lucky to be placed on the fine geographical location. Only the future can tell whether CPEC will succeed or not. Not that it is of any concern to India.

With Turkey, it might be distant possible [sea routes].

 

[Max Pain]

I very much doubt it. Who is going to use Gwadar? I only see China and to some extent Pakistan. I hardly see any other countries in this region using gwadar for their international trade.

yet

 

[LA se Karachi]

Gwadar has some attraction for Afghanistan. I don't see Iran will see Gwadar positively, it has Chabahar. Afghanistan now has another option in Chabahar, For Central Asia there are much more attractive and safer routes. I don't see how Turkey and Middle East will benefit from Gwadar after all they are directly connected to sea. Moreover, the controversies that CPEC is facing could make the whole project quite risky.

Iran (and maybe Afghanistan) will use Chabahar, but the rest of Central Asia and western/central China will use Gwadar. A route through Afghan soil is too risky. Given that China alone is the 2nd largest economy in the world and has a fast growing middle class, Pakistan will do well with Gwadar even if few other countries use it.

 

[noksss]

No not before issue of Kashmir is resolved.

No thanks man Please create as many Dubai's you can be it a Ground Dubai or a Underwater Dubai or may be a Overwater Dubai too