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Guns and Butter in Pakistan | Foreign Policy

The South Asia Channel
Guns and Butter in Pakistan
Nuclear weapons have drastically reduced Pakistan's vulnerability to India. So why doesn't it slow spending on conventional arms and increase spending on its population?

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Earlier this year, retired Lt. Gen. Khalid Kidwai, who was in charge of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons for 15 years, delivered a message to policymakers in the United States. In his prepared remarks, Kidwai argued that nuclear weapons have rendered conventional war in South Asia “near redundant.” In turn, if conventional war is unimaginable, Kidwai reasoned, India and Pakistan should be able to invest more in their populations’ socioeconomic well-being — as long as their leaders are up to it.

There is precedent to Kidwai highlighting the potential welfare-increasing effects of nuclear weapons. When Western leaders first grappled with its political effects in the early 1950s, they believed that this new and dangerous technology could help them save money. The strategy of “massive retaliation” in the first decade of the Cold War prioritized nuclear over conventional deterrence against the Soviet Union, and was pursued partly in the hope of cutting long-term defense expenditures. Indeed, the intellectual case for massive retaliation was most persuasively made by Britain in its 1952 Global Strategy Paper, primarily due to its dire economic situation. Even France, pushed by former President Charles de Gaulle’s fiscal conservatism, emphasized nuclear weapons in its defense policy for budgetary reasons.

These states were acting on what, on the surface, appears to be sound reasoning. All countries operate in an environment of scarce resources. Those resources must be channeled to the population’s well being, through building schools and hospitals, as well as the state’s security, through buying tanks and missiles.

Nuclear weapons seemingly allow states to ameliorate the pressures of this guns-butter tradeoff; their awesome power means that states locked in arms races do not necessarily have to match their rivals’ conventional acquisitions. After all, is a nuclear state’s security really compromised if it has slightly fewer jets or brigades than its adversary? In turn, the sanguinity bestowed by nuclear weapons should help states spend money on their societies, rather than their security. That is, the bomb should help states forego the tank in favor of the school.

The problem with this logic of nuclear “substitution,” simply put, is it does not hold in the real world, certainly not for any sustained period.

Consider Kidwai’s Pakistan. Given that it is essentially secure from Indian invasion, why does Pakistan, a relatively poor, underdeveloped state, not slow down spending on conventional arms, and increase spending on its population, as some of its former state officials have called for? The three reasons why Pakistan has failed to substitute speak to more general reasons why nuclear weapons fail to end conventional arms races.

First, nuclear weapons deter only specific forms of threats, such as large-scale conventional attacks, or nuclear war. While nuclear weapons’ ability to deter such threats is impressive, they are essentially useless against other threats. For instance, if a state faces a domestic insurgency or civil war, as Pakistan has since 2004 against Islamist groups such as the Taliban, then it still needs to invest heavily in conventional defense. Israel’s experience is suggestive: Its need to deter, and defend against, conflict at lower levels, such as attacks by terrorist or guerrilla organizations, impels its continued purchases of high-end military technology, even though it has a regional nuclear monopoly.

Second, even absent such “low-level” threats, states cannot put all their eggs in the nuclear basket, especially against nuclear-armed adversaries, because of the issue of credibility. If a state jettisons conventional armaments, and relies solely on nuclear weapons for defense and deterrence, it faces the unpleasant prospect of having its bluff called. States need sufficient conventional arms as a robust first option to credibly threaten escalation to the nuclear level.

Concerns about credibility are what pushed the United States to abandon massive retaliation for the far more expensive “flexible response” in the late 1950s. After all, once the Soviet Union also acquired nuclear weapons, NATO’s nuclear threats against any and all Soviet actions ceased being believable. France too adjusted to a more flexible policy once the implications of Soviet nuclearization became clear. Similarly, even if Pakistan relies heavily on its nuclear weapons to deter an Indian attack, it needs enough conventional strength to credibly climb the escalatory ladder.

Finally, a significant portion of Pakistan’s conventional build-up since 1998 can be attributed to the revisionist interests of its military. Any state interested in overturning the territorial status quo needs significant conventional strength. As with the United States and the Soviet Union, whose massive Cold War defense spending would be more accurately termed spending on “offense,” Pakistan’s conventional spending is fueled partly by its desire for Kashmir. As long as its military considers Kashmir “inseparable” from Pakistan, and as long as such an offensive posture helps maintain the military’s impregnable position in the country’s domestic politics and political economy, Pakistan is unlikely to take its foot off the conventional pedal.

Pakistan, then, is an instructive case. If a poor state, where health and education spending lag, cannot take advantage of the ostensible fiscal benefits of nuclear weapons, then who can? Indeed, my research suggests none of the established nuclear states evinced any sustained slowdown in conventional spending after nuclear acquisition.

In turn, this finding calls into question at least one common understanding of nuclear weapons: that they should help states “feel” secure. To the contrary, the historical evidence suggests that nuclear weapons do not appreciably change how threatened states perceive themselves to be, and that the costs of nuclear and conventional security are additive, not substitutable.
 
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Nuclear weapons are just show piece. It is conventional weapons that matter. India is increasing its defense budget on an average by 15% every year, and so is Pakistan.
 
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Nuclear weapons are just show piece. It is conventional weapons that matter. India is increasing its defense budget on an average by 15% every year, and so is Pakistan.

Agreed. Because both countries leadership mentality is the same. There are some who would advocate a different thinking for Pakistan, however that is a long way of.
 
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Nuclear weapons are just show piece. It is conventional weapons that matter. India is increasing its defense budget on an average by 15% every year, and so is Pakistan.
this showcase make deterrence and that is what we need .that is what india need against china that is what china need against many so on .
 
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this showcase make deterrence and that is what we need .that is what india need against china that is what china need against many so on .

Agreed. Because both countries leadership mentality is the same. There are some who would advocate a different thinking for Pakistan, however that is a long way of.

Nuclear weapons are deterrence in certain cases, but not in all cases. As the OP said "costs of nuclear and conventional security are additive, not substitutable"
 
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Guns and Butter in Pakistan | Foreign Policy

The South Asia Channel
Guns and Butter in Pakistan
Nuclear weapons have drastically reduced Pakistan's vulnerability to India. So why doesn't it slow spending on conventional arms and increase spending on its population?

gettyimages-52468448.jpg

Earlier this year, retired Lt. Gen. Khalid Kidwai, who was in charge of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons for 15 years, delivered a message to policymakers in the United States. In his prepared remarks, Kidwai argued that nuclear weapons have rendered conventional war in South Asia “near redundant.” In turn, if conventional war is unimaginable, Kidwai reasoned, India and Pakistan should be able to invest more in their populations’ socioeconomic well-being — as long as their leaders are up to it.

There is precedent to Kidwai highlighting the potential welfare-increasing effects of nuclear weapons. When Western leaders first grappled with its political effects in the early 1950s, they believed that this new and dangerous technology could help them save money. The strategy of “massive retaliation” in the first decade of the Cold War prioritized nuclear over conventional deterrence against the Soviet Union, and was pursued partly in the hope of cutting long-term defense expenditures. Indeed, the intellectual case for massive retaliation was most persuasively made by Britain in its 1952 Global Strategy Paper, primarily due to its dire economic situation. Even France, pushed by former President Charles de Gaulle’s fiscal conservatism, emphasized nuclear weapons in its defense policy for budgetary reasons.

These states were acting on what, on the surface, appears to be sound reasoning. All countries operate in an environment of scarce resources. Those resources must be channeled to the population’s well being, through building schools and hospitals, as well as the state’s security, through buying tanks and missiles.

Nuclear weapons seemingly allow states to ameliorate the pressures of this guns-butter tradeoff; their awesome power means that states locked in arms races do not necessarily have to match their rivals’ conventional acquisitions. After all, is a nuclear state’s security really compromised if it has slightly fewer jets or brigades than its adversary? In turn, the sanguinity bestowed by nuclear weapons should help states spend money on their societies, rather than their security. That is, the bomb should help states forego the tank in favor of the school.

The problem with this logic of nuclear “substitution,” simply put, is it does not hold in the real world, certainly not for any sustained period.

Consider Kidwai’s Pakistan. Given that it is essentially secure from Indian invasion, why does Pakistan, a relatively poor, underdeveloped state, not slow down spending on conventional arms, and increase spending on its population, as some of its former state officials have called for? The three reasons why Pakistan has failed to substitute speak to more general reasons why nuclear weapons fail to end conventional arms races.

First, nuclear weapons deter only specific forms of threats, such as large-scale conventional attacks, or nuclear war. While nuclear weapons’ ability to deter such threats is impressive, they are essentially useless against other threats. For instance, if a state faces a domestic insurgency or civil war, as Pakistan has since 2004 against Islamist groups such as the Taliban, then it still needs to invest heavily in conventional defense. Israel’s experience is suggestive: Its need to deter, and defend against, conflict at lower levels, such as attacks by terrorist or guerrilla organizations, impels its continued purchases of high-end military technology, even though it has a regional nuclear monopoly.

Second, even absent such “low-level” threats, states cannot put all their eggs in the nuclear basket, especially against nuclear-armed adversaries, because of the issue of credibility. If a state jettisons conventional armaments, and relies solely on nuclear weapons for defense and deterrence, it faces the unpleasant prospect of having its bluff called. States need sufficient conventional arms as a robust first option to credibly threaten escalation to the nuclear level.

Concerns about credibility are what pushed the United States to abandon massive retaliation for the far more expensive “flexible response” in the late 1950s. After all, once the Soviet Union also acquired nuclear weapons, NATO’s nuclear threats against any and all Soviet actions ceased being believable. France too adjusted to a more flexible policy once the implications of Soviet nuclearization became clear. Similarly, even if Pakistan relies heavily on its nuclear weapons to deter an Indian attack, it needs enough conventional strength to credibly climb the escalatory ladder.

Finally, a significant portion of Pakistan’s conventional build-up since 1998 can be attributed to the revisionist interests of its military. Any state interested in overturning the territorial status quo needs significant conventional strength. As with the United States and the Soviet Union, whose massive Cold War defense spending would be more accurately termed spending on “offense,” Pakistan’s conventional spending is fueled partly by its desire for Kashmir. As long as its military considers Kashmir “inseparable” from Pakistan, and as long as such an offensive posture helps maintain the military’s impregnable position in the country’s domestic politics and political economy, Pakistan is unlikely to take its foot off the conventional pedal.

Pakistan, then, is an instructive case. If a poor state, where health and education spending lag, cannot take advantage of the ostensible fiscal benefits of nuclear weapons, then who can? Indeed, my research suggests none of the established nuclear states evinced any sustained slowdown in conventional spending after nuclear acquisition.

In turn, this finding calls into question at least one common understanding of nuclear weapons: that they should help states “feel” secure. To the contrary, the historical evidence suggests that nuclear weapons do not appreciably change how threatened states perceive themselves to be, and that the costs of nuclear and conventional security are additive, not substitutable.

A well-reasoned and informed article. I would, however, like to make a clarification. It is not just the army which considers Kashmir inseparable. That statement is wholly incomplete.

It is the Pakistanis who feel that Kashmir is an integral part of the Pakistani dominion and it is that 'will' (of the Pakistani people) which translates into military designs for the Kashmiri region. It is the prime duty of the armed forces to ensure that our borders remain secure and that territories, to which we put a claim, are geographically consolidated into the Pakistani state. The army is simply doing the task assigned to it under Article 245 of the Constitution read with Article 1(2)(c) which categorically allows for the inclusion into Pakistan, by accession or otherwise, such territories as may be stipulated to be a part of Pakistan. The framers of our constitution were sensitive to the plight of the Kashmiri state and therefore integrated our Quaid's vision for the Kashmiri state into the very founding document of present-day Pakistan.

I would have it no other way. We can not simply relinquish our right to a disputed territory solely because we feel that money spent on the army is better spent on economic uplift. Furthermore that distinction too is misplaced and not tenable. By way of example, on the topic of economic uplift, had we not ordered the army into FATA we would never have brought socio-economic progress to the tribal belt. Granted the place is presently in tatters, but is a more a part of Pakistan now than it ever was post-independence. And being a part of Pakistan is a guarantee that by the establishment of a local government, and working state apparatus, it will see more progress in the next decade than it has in the past 70 years.

The military force of Pakistan being an arm of the state are an indispensable part of our economic charter, and cannot be replaced with alms for the poor. The entire civil-military system works in consonance with another, and a strong army ensures that aggressors contemplating military misadventures (which often leads to a crippling economic slowdown and, more often than not, sanctions) are thwarted from putting their designs into effect, thus ensuring the continuing economic progress of this country.
 
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In turn, this finding calls into question at least one common understanding of nuclear weapons: that they should help states “feel” secure. To the contrary, the historical evidence suggests that nuclear weapons do not appreciably change how threatened states perceive themselves to be, and that the costs of nuclear and conventional security are additive, not substitutable.


In a post nuclear world, where major adversaries all have nuclear weapons, the real war remains economic. Case in point: Fall of USSR.
 
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A well-reasoned and informed article. I would, however, like to make a clarification. It is not just the army which considers Kashmir inseparable. That statement is wholly incomplete.

It is the Pakistanis who feel that Kashmir is an integral part of the Pakistani dominion and it is that 'will' (of the Pakistani people) which translates into military designs for the Kashmiri region. It is the prime duty of the armed forces to ensure that our borders remain secure and that territories, to which we put a claim, are geographically consolidated into the Pakistani state. The army is simply doing the task assigned to it under Article 245 of the Constitution read with Article 1(2)(c) which categorically allows for the inclusion into Pakistan, by accession or otherwise, such territories as may be stipulated to be a part of Pakistan. The framers of our constitution were sensitive to the plight of the Kashmiri state and therefore integrated our Quaid's vision for the Kashmiri state into the very founding document of present-day Pakistan.

I would have it no other way. We can not simply relinquish our right to a disputed territory solely because we feel that money spent on the army is better spent on economic uplift. Furthermore that distinction too is misplaced and not tenable. By way of example, on the topic of economic uplift, had we not ordered the army into FATA we would never have brought socio-economic progress to the tribal belt. Granted the place is presently in tatters, but is a more a part of Pakistan now than it ever was post-independence. And being a part of Pakistan is a guarantee that by the establishment of a local government, and working state apparatus, it will see more progress in the next decade than it has in the past 70 years.

The military force of Pakistan being an arm of the state are an indispensable part of our economic charter, and cannot be replaced with alms for the poor. The entire civil-military system works in consonance with another, and a strong army ensures that aggressors contemplating military misadventures (which often leads to a crippling economic slowdown and, more often than not, sanctions) are thwarted from putting their designs into effect, thus ensuring the continuing economic progress of this country.

Good points from a Pakistan's perspective, but you failed to take into account the Indian point of view. Why would India give up its claim on Kashmir? If Pakistan can bear the cost of keeping Kashmir war alive, so can India. So what is the use of having a strategy that doesn't yield anything for Pakistan?
 
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Good points from a Pakistan's perspective, but you failed to take into account the Indian point of view. Why would India give up its claim on Kashmir? If Pakistan can bear the cost of keeping Kashmir war alive, so can India. So what is the use of having a strategy that doesn't yield anything for Pakistan?

That same argument goes for India too, wouldn't you say?

Also we're forgetting China. They too have a claim to the region.
 
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That same argument goes for India too, wouldn't you say?

Also we're forgetting China. They too have a claim to the region.

but China and India are not on a war mode over Kashmir.

Yes, war over Kashmir is costly for India too, but it will be much costlier for Pakistan given the difference in our respective economies.
 
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but China and India are not on a war mode over Kashmir.

Yes, war over Kashmir is costly for India too, but it will be much costlier for Pakistan given the difference in our respective economies.

It costs us much less to operate our forces. The amount spent by both the countries is relative and therefore equally tasking, or not, on both the militaries. I would disagree with your observation that India is not in a 'war mode' over Kashmir. India is conducting counter-insurgency operations on a daily basis, along with patrolling and also imposing curfews on the local population to restrict the effects that civilian movement has on its operations.
 
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It costs us much less to operate our forces. The amount spent by both the countries is relative and therefore equally tasking, or not, on both the militaries. I would disagree with your observation that India is not in a 'war mode' over Kashmir. India is conducting counter-insurgency operations on a daily basis, along with patrolling and also imposing curfews on the local population to restrict the effects that civilian movement has on its operations.

Military spending are not relative, but always ask for a parity to compete with the other. We have examples before us: USSR vs USA or South Korea vs North Korea.

Pakistan press tends to exaggerate insurgency operations inside India. But the truth is very difference. They are not that serious as Pakistan press tend to project when they compare India's counter insurgency operations to Pakistan's army operations over Taliban. India's counter insurgency operations are so insignificant that they don't even gain India's media attention. Again you are free to have your Kashmir strategy, but India is equally passionate about Kashmir. That makes the whole situation a stalemate.
 
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