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Good, at least you are now starting to realize that help will not be on your way should a war break out between China and Vietnam. It will simply be verbal support and increased bilateral trades, as in "Here Vietnam, buy some of our weapons".

I have been watching your game for quite a some time,India is training the Vietnamese in the art of shipbuilding , in a war its always better to be self sufficient than to have to import. We dont promise them to meet there demands in case of a war but we do have promised them that they can meet there own. And who better do you think can equip them with information technology in defense and technical support.
 
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I have been watching your game for quite a some time,India is training the Vietnamese in the art of shipbuilding , in a war its always better to be self sufficient than to have to import. We dont promise them to meet there demands in case of a war but we do have promised them that they can meet there own. And who better do you think can equip them with information technology in defense and technical support.

Possessing the art of shipbuilding will still require the art of making and managing money to fund such projects. If only India pays to build their ships and gives them Brahmos for free. Otherwise, it's just the same old chest thumping. Fact is both India and Vietnam needs one another because neither can do anything to modern China. Porblem is, China will simply ignore all these distractions and continue to do what they have been doing in recent years.
 
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Obambam said:
Good, at least you are now starting to realize that help will not be on your way should a war break out between China and Vietnam. It will simply be verbal support and increased bilateral trades, as in "Here Vietnam, buy some of our weapons".
Yep, weapon is good enough, and that is all what we need to keep up the fight with CHina :)

Unfortunately for Vietnam, you don't have enough bargaining chips to turn people your way. Moreover, countries around would be suspicious of Vietnam's true intentions should they act too eager. Reason why I think China is stronger than Vietnam? well, we make our own weapons, have more men, is right next to you, more money and resource, more friends and we are not the one trying to convince the world that everyone is our friend and how everyone will lend us money, sell us weapons, let us hide in their country or let us use their radars. We are also not the one protesting about someone cutting our cables
that why, we need India-Japan support , let us borrow some money to convice Thailand, we will pay you back after that, and India-Japan seem very interesting :)

Your own weapon cannot make you get stronger, no one sure that : your weapon is all good and useful bcz you don't have real experience in Modern wafare when VIetNam already have many experience during 70s-80s -the begining of Modern wafare , and we keep having training with Russia-India-USA now.

and you always have more man than VN, even during 1979 bro :)
Don't forget this is now and 1979 was 32 years ago. Vietnam never entered China and destroyed our infrastructures, looted what needed to be looted and burnt down what needs to be burnt down. This time it would be many times worse. Also don't forget about what happened when your miltary tried to invade our islands.
Yep, 32 years already, and you still can not recognize the diffrent between fake and real targets, so we will cheat you again like what we did during 1979-1984 war :azn:
It's more of the case no one needs to do anything just because Vietnam requests us to. I am sure Cambodia is good enough running its own country and does not need its noisy neighbour to tell them what to do. Do you expect them to cut ties with China simply because Vietnam itself has issues with China? Don't be ridiculous now.
So now , you only can Hope Cambodia is wise enough ??hehe, so that smartest way for Cambodia is keep friendship tie with VietNam. Cambodia is far from CHina, but she share the Long border with VIetNam, so let neighbours help each other in case of fire :azn:

Advise given by Vietnam who never fought outside its own territory? I am sure they would rather do nothing than commit suicide with Vietnam.
China have good relationships with many countries in ASEAN and have strong bilateral trade and even military to military ties with some. Don't automatically assume they are united or will act as a shield for Vietnam. Vietnam is alone or has very few leverage against China. The only sensible way out for your country is to be good and cooperate with China. Not go against it.
The strong bilateral trade and even military to military ties still can not help them to follow CHina, you could not protected ThAi land when they must fought with VietNam when we pursuing Rougue Khmer, so they don't think CHina is good protector
Thailand and Vietnam faced off across the Thai-Cambodian border with frequent Vietnamese incursions and shellings into Thai territory throughout the 1980s in pursuit of Cambodian guerrillas who kept attacking Vietnamese occupation forces.
Vietnamese border raids in Thailand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vietnam is the only one worrying about Thailand being China's friend. Problem is, they already are
Thailand is worryin about you now , bro.don't make them get more angry :azn:
Anxiety as China Influences Thailand's Economy
Thursday, 4 August 2011, 10:47 am
Column: Richard S. Ehrlich

Anxiety as China Influences Thailand's Economy


BANGKOK, Thailand -- A birthday party's dinner guests were bubbling with cheer until the subject of China came up, causing some of the Thais to suddenly turn gloomy.

"People in Thailand are worried," said a former foreign ministry diplomat, placing down his glass of red wine.

"China's economy is so big, and ours is so small, that we cannot compete with all the Chinese things being sold here. It is especially a problem for Thai S.M.E.s," he said, referring to small and medium-sized enterprises.

"China will own us!" said an official interpreter for top government leaders, expressing her outrage at Beijing's rapidly growing influence on Bangkok's economy.

"Of course China will also own America, but your economy is so big you can just tell Beijing that you won't pay all the money you owe, and they can't do anything about it. But Thailand is small. We can't say no to Beijing.

"Thailand will be like a vassal of China," she said.
Anxiety as China Influences Thailand's Economy | Scoop News
 
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Possessing the art of shipbuilding will still require the art of making and managing money to fund such projects. If only India pays to build their ships and gives them Brahmos for free. Otherwise, it's just the same old chest thumping. Fact is both India and Vietnam needs one another because neither can do anything to modern China. Porblem is, China will simply ignore all these distractions and continue to do what they have been doing in recent years.

It is not a first hand information from me that India is training there crew, in maintenance and repair of Naval Platforms aswell.. The rest of your lines, you are over rating your reach. There is no immortality, gone are those days when powerful remains the same. In this era of electronic and cyber warfare even a virus can bring down the world...
 
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Yep, weapon is good enough, and that is all what we need to keep up the fight with CHina :)

That is until you run out of money and resources to keep up the fight.

that why, we need India-Japan support , let us borrow some money to convice Thailand, we will pay you back after that, and India-Japan seem very interesting :)

I think that is a good idea. Vietnam needs to tell India and Japan to give them money and they must place Vietnam first themselves second :)

Your own weapon cannot make you get stronger, no one sure that : your weapon is all good and useful bcz you don't have real experience in Modern wafare when VIetNam already have many experience during 70s-80s -the begining of Modern wafare , and we keep having training with Russia-India-USA now.

Which explains why countries are so concerned about China's military. Surely fake weapons cannot harm anyone. Mind you China participates in drills with many countries including Russia on an annual basis.

Yep, 32 years already, and you still can not recognize the diffrent between fake and real targets, so we will cheat you again like what we did during 1979-1984 war :azn:

Would love to see how you cheat China in the sea first. The issue we have with VN lies in the SCS. There is simply nowhere for you to hide in the sea right now.

So now , you only can Hope Cambodia is wise enough ??hehe, so that smartest way for Cambodia is keep friendship tie with VietNam. Cambodia is far from CHina, but she share the Long border with VIetNam, so let neighbours help each other in case of fire :azn:

No need to hope, it's about being realistic. They may share border with Vietnam, but since they have no issues with VN, then they have nothing to worry about. Vietnam is the only one who would be most worried about China especially now.

The strong bilateral trade and even military to military ties still can not help them to follow CHina, you could not protected ThAi land when they must fought with VietNam when we pursuing Rougue Khmer, so they don't think CHina is good protector

It's not about China being a protector. Thais are not at war with anyone so there is no need to worry about the unnecessary. The only one looking for support, protector and somewhere to hide is Vietnam, because they are right next to China and the relationship aren't so good lately.


Thailand is worryin about you now , bro.don't make them get more angry :azn:
Anxiety as China Influences Thailand's Economy | Scoop News

The source aren't even credible and if countries aren't able to compete and keep up or find ways of making money, should they just give up? Thailand is doing very well for themselves and is one of the most popular tourist locations in Asia.

I think the most sensible thing to do is to all sit down talk and find ways to cooperate. All these talks about wars are simply not realistic. I think I said it awhile ago, we can wait and it will not happen. Because now is not 30 years ago and making money is more important to both neighbouring countries.
 
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It is not a first hand information from me that India is training there crew, in maintenance and repair of Naval Platforms aswell.. The rest of your lines, you are over rating your reach. There is no immortality, gone are those days when powerful remains the same. In this era of electronic and cyber warfare even a virus can bring down the world...

That is stating the obvious. India can do whatever they wish with their time and money. So long they don't whine about when China does the same.
I am not over rating anything, just being realistic. India is training Vietnam, but it is still the same India. It is also the same India who talks much about China and not being able to do much about China's rise. If India can bring down China, believe me, they would have done so already.
 
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That is stating the obvious. India can do whatever they wish with their time and money. So long they don't whine about when China does the same.
I am not over rating anything, just being realistic. India is training Vietnam, but it is still the same India. It is also the same India who talks much about China and not being able to do much about China's rise. If India can bring down China, believe me, they would have done so already.

China does the same for charity to a friendly nation I suppose. Well anyway India might be the same India to you , China might be a fairy land to you or we might have brought you down with sheer aggression if we were possibly strong and over powered in accordance to you. But doesnt the word Attitude play a major role in the earth to rotate and the people who dont disturb it?

India and China. We have a possible common factor which keeps us on the needle which is the Economy. If any among us fails to get good with it, then can a possible aggression start. Believe me neither you nor I know what awaits us.
 
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I think the most sensible thing to do is to all sit down talk and find ways to cooperate. All these talks about wars are simply not realistic. I think I said it awhile ago, we can wait and it will not happen. Because now is not 30 years ago and making money is more important to both neighbouring countries.

Don't be too humble, if you support me enough I will fight the Yuon til the last breath. From that you must learn from Turkey, they're rough!!!

Friendly attitude cannot be used to treat a hostile nation such as Vietnam. I would beat out the **** of a little punk no matter what will happen later!!!

That is stating the obvious. India can do whatever they wish with their time and money. So long they don't whine about when China does the same.
I am not over rating anything, just being realistic. India is training Vietnam, but it is still the same India. It is also the same India who talks much about China and not being able to do much about China's rise. If India can bring down China, believe me, they would have done so already.

India is not only support Vietnam but also the anti-china terrorists around the World!!!

How about a real damn war to destroy the two hostile evils to make them back to 70s??? You may have a little losses both in economy and national image but that would not prevent you to redevelop your country. War is terrible but a necessary if there are no choices, you bomb those little punks to 70s making you more powerful in World political affairs. Plus, after war you can request them pay back to you the war fees with 20 times of the realistic numbers because they have lost the war. A country with huge potential like China, I think you will recovery quickly!!!
 
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Obambam said:
That is until you run out of money and resources to keep up the fight.
We always have lots of money from Laos-Viet bank with CHina's donation :lol:
I think that is a good idea. Vietnam needs to tell India and Japan to give them money and they must place Vietnam first themselves second
India and Japan should not stand alone to fight with CHina, so it'd better for India-VietNam-Japan stand together to tie up the defensive line, and India-Japan seem very interesting about it , you can not do anything to break it :azn:
No need to hope, it's about being realistic. They may share border with Vietnam, but since they have no issues with VN, then they have nothing to worry about. Vietnam is the only one who would be most worried about China especially now.
They don't need to worry about VIetNam, our army always protect them well, so they just need to do a simple task is supporting Vietnam if war happend.

btw: Mr.Hun Sen having lots of enemies who wanna overthrone him, so, stay with VIetNam he will always in safe , who knows CHina wanan overthrone him like Mr. Mubarack in Egypt or not :azn:
It's not about China being a protector. Thais are not at war with anyone so there is no need to worry about the unnecessary. The only one looking for support, protector and somewhere to hide is Vietnam, because they are right next to China and the relationship aren't so good lately.
The world is very dangerous now, and see , how many time coups happend in Thailand already ??and Mr. Thaksin surely doesn't want his country in chaos for so long like that, so colaborate with VietNam to keep Thailand away from chaos is the best option , CHina can not help Thailand avoid the chaos untill now:azn:
Obambam said:
The source aren't even credible and if countries aren't able to compete and keep up or find ways of making money, should they just give up? Thailand is doing very well for themselves and is one of the most popular tourist locations in Asia.

I think the most sensible thing to do is to all sit down talk and find ways to cooperate. All these talks about wars are simply not realistic. I think I said it awhile ago, we can wait and it will not happen. Because now is not 30 years ago and making money is more important to both neighbouring countries
So you can come to Thailand foreign ministry to ask :azn:

ah Yes, of course Mr. Thaksin wanna sit down and talk with Cambodia-VietNam and find ways to cooperate to make ASEAN get Stronger as NATO :P
"People in Thailand are worried," said a former foreign ministry diplomat, placing down his glass of red wine.
 
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China does the same for charity to a friendly nation I suppose.

Something which India is reluctant to do for their communist counterpart. Is it because they dislike commies or they simply cannot trust them?

Well anyway India might be the same India to you , China might be a fairy land to you or we might have brought you down with sheer aggression if we were possibly strong and over powered in accordance to you.

To me China is indeed more of a fairy land than India is and for you it would be the later.

But doesnt the word Attitude play a major role in the earth to rotate and the people who dont disturb it?

Earth was never at peace not since to begin with. The only thing that matter is power. When you have the power you will automatically find peace, else you get trampled on.

India and China. We have a possible common factor which keeps us on the needle which is the Economy. If any among us fails to get good with it, then can a possible aggression start. Believe me neither you nor I know what awaits us.

That is why nuke is so important. Lets hope neither you or I will get to see the unlikely event that awaits us.
 
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Don't be too humble, if you support me enough I will fight the Yuon til the last breath. From that you must learn from Turkey, they're rough!!!

Friendly attitude cannot be used to treat a hostile nation such as Vietnam. I would beat out the **** of a little punk no matter what will happen later!!!



India is not only support Vietnam but also the anti-china terrorists around the World!!!

How about a real damn war to destroy the two hostile evils to make them back to 70s??? You may have a little losses both in economy and national image but that would not prevent you to redevelop your country. War is terrible but a necessary if there are no choices, you bomb those little punks to 70s making you more powerful in World political affairs. Plus, after war you can request them pay back to you the war fees with 20 times of the realistic numbers because they have lost the war. A country with huge potential like China, I think you will recovery quickly!!!
CHina is preparing a war with USA to take control of Pacific ocean and influent in Europe , she will have more benefit than keeping hostile attitue with small VIetNAm.She will not care much about what Vietnam is doing bro.and of course , we will not dare to make trouble with her dream :azn:

CHina is thinking for the greater future to be No 1 in the world, fighting with VN will only bring her down in the future :azn:
 
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Something which India is reluctant to do for their communist counterpart. Is it because they dislike commies or they simply cannot trust them?


Communism for your information is followed strictly in several parts of India, there are many communist followers, India being a democracy has option open for people to not only elect the govt but also the form of govt they need. We have no reluctance to anything but relationships.


To me China is indeed more of a fairy land than India is and for you it would be the later.


No, for me its the former.

Earth was never at peace not since to begin with. The only thing that matter is power. When you have the power you will automatically find peace, else you get trampled on.


Power is an overwhelming factor in peace but when not in, power has little to do with the settlement. Power what we measure or denote with is often not enough to approximate it.

That is why nuke is so important. Lets hope neither you or I will get to see the unlikely event that awaits us.

Nuke would rule the earth for not more than a decade from now.
 
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We always have lots of money from Laos-Viet bank with CHina's donation :lol:

Unfortunately, its not enough to sort out your country's economic problems. :lol:

India and Japan should not stand alone to fight with CHina, so it'd better for India-VietNam-Japan stand together to tie up the defensive line, and India-Japan seem very interesting about it , you can not do anything to break it :azn:

They never did, but nothing changed China is still growing and Japan is still hurt by the recession and doesn't have a military. The defensive line of North Korea, China and Pakistan is very interesting too and all three has nuke boom!

They don't need to worry about VIetNam, our army always protect them well, so they just need to do a simple task is supporting Vietnam if war happend.

Supporting Vietnam against China is no simple task. It's a matter of if they want to see their country's social and economic structure continue to move in the right direction or to destroy it in favor of a Vietnam war against China. Chances are, they will simply give you verbal support meanwhile maintaining a neutral stance. I think they also trust Vietnam's capability, they know Vietnam is very strong and can handle China alone, so no worries. :azn:

btw: Mr.Hun Sen having lots of enemies who wanna overthrone him, so, stay with VIetNam he will always in safe , who knows CHina wanan overthrone him like Mr. Mubarack in Egypt or not :azn:

He will just have to go when his time is up, otherwise he would be considered a dictator right? I am sure he is very safe already and Vietnam cannot protect him unless they meddle with Cambodia's internal affairs and make Cambodia their vassal state. If that is the case, then people should question their friendship and motives.

The world is very dangerous now, and see , how many time coups happend in Thailand already ??and Mr. Thanksin surely don't want his country in chaos for so long like that, so colaborate with VietNam to keep Thailand away from chaos is the best option , CHina can not help Thailand avoid the chaos untill now:azn:

Coups can happen to any country, but it all depends on the support. See how quickly the Red party regained power because of people's support? It is unlikely to happen anytime soon because it would seriously disrupt Thailand's economy. I am sure they don't want to see riots every year. Vietnam couldn't stop the coup last time so what makes Vietnam think they can support Thailand or prevent it from happening again?

So you can come to Thailand foreign ministry to ask :azn:

I have been to Thailand many times, and from personal experience I already know how much Chinese are respected over there and how influential we are compared to Vietnam. However, I will not stop one from hoping :azn:
 
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Communism for your information is followed strictly in several parts of India, there are many communist followers, India being a democracy has option open for people to not only elect the govt but also the form of govt they need. We have no reluctance to anything but relationships.

Unfortunately they are not very well liked by Indians and India's general attitude towards communists are very telling. I am just amused at the extent of India's willingness to help certain communists outside but chose to fight the ones inside.

No, for me its the former.

That to me was a pleasant surprise.

Power is an overwhelming factor in peace but when not in, power has little to do with the settlement. Power what we measure or denote with is often not enough to approximate it.

Important fact to take note is. This world is and will never be fair, so you either have power be safe or you don't. Alternatives would be to cooperate. You simply cannot challenge the unthinkable. Misery often awaits the ones that opposes.

Nuke would rule the earth for not more than a decade from now.

That is not for you or I to decide. For as long as it remains, it will continue to serve its purpose, which is to deter.
 
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Unfortunately they are not very well liked by Indians and India's general attitude towards communists are very telling. I am just amused at the extent of India's willingness to help certain communists outside but chose to fight the ones inside.

Again "Attitude" , there are people who get provoked and get inspired by it and implement it on the weak and helpless which is not good to upkeep the law and order of the country. On the other hand, there are people who restrict there belief to themselves and have there status lifted in the society.


That to me was a pleasant surprise.

No it is, China is more developed and planned than India. Its a fact which does not need a debate.

Important fact to take note is. This world is and will never be fair, so you either have power be safe or you don't. Alternatives would be to cooperate. You simply cannot challenge the unthinkable. Misery often awaits the ones that opposes.

Really?? Glory has been achieved by only those who chose to create there own path.

That is not for you or I to decide. For as long as it remains, it will continue to serve its purpose, which is to deter.

Well, Certainly not you and I but some one there who for sure is.
 
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