Gripen, Rafale, Typhoon On Malaysian MRCA Wishlist

[Zarvan]

BAE Systems submitted a leasing proposal for the Eurofighter typhoon in March 2014.
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Malaysia is in the final stages of studying companies that meet the Royal Malaysian Air Force's (RMAF's) multirole combat aircraft (MRCA) requirement to replace its ageing MiG-29 fighter aircraft.

"We are now in the final stages of studying which of the companies are able to meet with our requirements and the decision to be made is not for a short term, RMAF chief, Tan Sri Roslan Saad was quoted as saying by Malaysia Digest during the RMAF 58th anniversary at Kuantan Air Base Tuesday.

"Our focus is on a multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA) capable of performing various roles, among others, the role of air-to-air combat and air-to-surface attack," he said.

Asked whether the RMAF would be purchasing new aircraft, he said the air force was now identifying several types of fighter aircraft among them the Gripen, Rafale and Typhoon.

Saab has offered leasing its JAS 39 Gripen C/D multirole fighter to the the Malaysian government instead of outright sale to cut costs.

BAE systems submitted a leasing proposal for the Eurofighter typhoon in March 2014. Malaysia in 2014, which had wanted to buy 18 combat aircraft by 2015, said it was choosing between Boeing’s F/A-18, Rafale, Gripen and Typhoon which is built by BAE, Airbus and Italy’s Finmeccanica.

The MRCA programme has been delayed continually in recent years due to economic constraints in Malaysia. The fleet of Russian MiG-29N 'Fulcrum-A' fighters were originally scheduled to be retired by late 2010.

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/16...phoon_On_Malaysian_MRCA_Wishlist#.V1lx0CNRXqA

 

[C130]

F/A 18 Advance Super Hornet makes the most sense to me.

buy a few Growlers for EW/SEADs as well

 

[randomradio]

Any aircraft that has commonality with the IAF. So they should wait for IAF to pick one or two other aircraft first.

 

[SAS]

F/A 18 Advance Super Hornet makes the most sense to me.

No offence but, European jets are better.

 

[C130]

No offence but, European jets are better.

they are better but they are also more expensive as well

the F/A 18 can do 90% of what the Eurofighter and Rafale can do but for half the cost.


sounds like they want 18 birds. so they can buy 18 Typhoon w/ weapon/service package for $5 to $6 billion or they could buy 36 F/A 18 Advance Super Hornets for the same price or less

 

[SAS]

they are better but they are also more expensive as well

the F/A 18 can do 90% of what the Eurofighter and Rafale can do but for half the cost.


sounds like they want 18 birds. so they can buy 18 Typhoon w/ weapon/service package for $5 to $6 billion or they could buy 36 F/A 18 Advance Super Hornets for the same price or less

I think Tranche 3A (American equivalent of E/F types) Typhoons are about £70 million a piece whereas F-18E/F are about $60 million?

But yeah, I was only taking the mickey. It all boils down to the role these birds will play.

Clearly they're looking for a multirole aeroplane and not an air supiriority one so, F-18 does make more sense.

We don't have Union Jack so, *Humms 'God save the Queen'*.

 

[randomradio]

I think Tranche 3A (American equivalent of E/F types) Typhoons are about £70 million a piece whereas F-18E/F are about $60 million?

But yeah, I was only taking the mickey. It all boils down to the role these birds will play.

Clearly they're looking for a multirole aeroplane and not an air supiriority one so, F-18 does make more sense.

We don't have Union Jack so, *Humms 'God save the Queen'*.

The Malaysians buy whatever India buys.

 

[C130]

I think Tranche 3A (American equivalent of E/F types) Typhoons are about £70 million a piece whereas F-18E/F are about $60 million?

But yeah, I was only taking the mickey. It all boils down to the role these birds will play.

Clearly they're looking for a multirole aeroplane and not an air supiriority one so, F-18 does make more sense.

We don't have Union Jack so, *Humms 'God save the Queen'*.

you also need to take into account the pound is stronger than the dollar


so F/A 18= $70 million and Eurofighter= $100 million by your number, but I believe it's more like $140 million each going by the Kuwait deal not including the service contract which would bump that number up to more like $250 million or $300 million each


heck Malaysian can just buy 18 F/A 18 and buy 4 or 5 E-2D to go with them, and possibility MQ-4C Tritons.

18 F/A 18 Advance Super Hornets w/ 10 year service= $190 million each=$3,420,000,000
288 AIM-120D= $350,000,000
144 AIM-9X= $72,000,000
108 AGM-84N Harpoon Block II+= $160,000,000
1000 JDAM and PAVEWAY kits= $25,000,000
324 Brimestone Missiles= $32,500,000

5 E-2D= $1,000,000,000
10 MQ-4C=$1,200,000,000

that's a little more $6.3 billion dollars

not sure if Europeans could match that bang for buck with Typhoon,Rafale, and Gripen..

 

[mike2000 is back]

Our Typhoons should certainly bag this deal. As they are the best of their class.
Our defence giants and government seem to be optimistic about this deal indeed.



BAE Systems outlines Typhoon offset package for Malaysia
Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
18 April 2016

A Royal Air Force Typhoon of 3 (F) Squadron Eurofighter Typhoon over the Petronas towers in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, in 2013. Source: BAE Systems


BAE Systems remains committed to offering the Eurofighter Typhoon to meet the Royal Malaysian Air Force's (RMAF's) multirole combat aircraft (MRCA) requirement despite continuing delays in the programme.


John Brosnan, the managing director of BAE Systems' Asia business, told IHS Jane's on 18 April at the Defence Services Asia (DSA) exhibition in Kuala Lumpur that Typhoon is positioned to meet the RMAF's requirement to replace its ageing MiG-29 fighter aircraft and address intensifying strategic concerns in the region.

David Cameron arrives in Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia July 2015, Britain has been keen to sell Eurofighter Typhoon military jets to Malaysia (PA)


He added that he expects the MRCA programme to progress in the near future, and that BAE Systems is aiming to secure the deal through a comprehensive local industrial partnership supported, possibly, by UK finance.

"The MiG-29 will need replacing," he said. "The threats are out there, and the [RMAF] needs an aircraft. Its [Boeing] F/A-18 Hornets and [Sukhoi] Su-30s are getting older too. If you order aircraft today it takes two or three years before you get them so the decision would have to be made before too much longer, I would say."

He added, "A key element with the Typhoon is that it will be supported here in Malaysia. We will have a maintenance, repair, and overhaul facility with a local partner, probably a joint venture but certainly an industrial partnership that will support the aircraft."

Brosnan noted that while localised production would not make economic sense for the MRCA programme, which will encompass the supply of 18 aircraft, the Typhoon offer could be supported by finance extended by the UK government. "Clearly, if we can spread payment plans over three periods rather than one, that is likely to be of interest," he said.

Elaborating on the point, Alan Garwood, BAE Systems' group business development director, told IHS Jane's that UK finance deals are becoming an increasingly popular method of supporting UK defence exports to countries facing economic constraints.


http://www.janes.com/article/59595/dsa-2016-bae-systems-outlines-typhoon-offset-package-for-malaysia

So we simply offer the best deal for malaysia.

 

[UKBengali]

If Malaysia wants the best air-to-air fighter, then it can only pick the Eurofighter.

 

[Blue Marlin]

the typhhon is in a strong position, they are taking a leaf out of saabs book. they will be leasing the jets at an affordable cost and at the end of the lease they can buy them out right. so you have the most advance jets in its class at a very good price and malaysia does not need to fully commit to them and they can buy them at the end of the lease term. bae's terms are very flexible here. we have another good chance.
@Vauban has india signed for them rafales yet its been 4 years

 

[C130]

If Malaysia wants the best air-to-air fighter, then it can only pick the Eurofighter.

best air to air fighter

not according to the India and her Su-30MKI

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian-air-forces-top-guns-score-wins-in-the-uk-1204336

 

[UKBengali]

best air to air fighter

not according to the India and her Su-30MKI

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian-air-forces-top-guns-score-wins-in-the-uk-1204336

Eurofighter has superior avionics and far more engine power per unit weight that it will easily beat the SU-30MKI.

 

[Blue Marlin]

I think Tranche 3A (American equivalent of E/F types) Typhoons are about £70 million a piece whereas F-18E/F are about $60 million?

But yeah, I was only taking the mickey. It all boils down to the role these birds will play.

Clearly they're looking for a multirole aeroplane and not an air supiriority one so, F-18 does make more sense.

We don't have Union Jack so, *Humms 'God save the Queen'*.

the tranch 3a cost £85 million
as for the uk flag emogi here

 

[C130]

Eurofighter has superior avionics and far more engine power per unit weight that it will easily beat the SU-30MKI.

ummm I dunno know about that give me some numbers