Green light to the sale of two Fincantieri Fremm military ships to Egypt

[MaRv]

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[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

I am amazed to see that Egypt now has billions of dollars to spend on defence when only 2 years ago they had bread riots in the country when they raised price of bread. May be they should also reduce the price of bread by half if they have too much money now. Does Egypt have any neighbors threatening that it needs so much arms Egypt is now Zionist's boot licker and guard dog of Gulf states.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt-bread-riots-protests-erupt-after-subsidy-cut-hits-poor

It's probably because their fauji companies are professionally-run profit-generating corporations, unlike Pakistan's army-run businesses.

 

[The SC]

Lmao, Typhoons, F-16s, Rafales, Su-35, MiG-35

Egyptian Air Force is a shit show.

Maybe but no one knows why Typhoons.. still there might me many reasons.. like the Rafale Deal for more aircrafts has stalled.. and many other possible reasons.. but it not totally stupid..it might be to put pressure on France too..because the negotiations with Italy are mostly naval..

 

[The SC]

Lmao, Typhoons, F-16s, Rafales, Su-35, MiG-35

Egyptian Air Force is a shit show.

It is more like a nightmare for the ones who want to confront all these different jamming technologies, missiles, tactics, capabilities and much more.. this is the positive side of diversification..as for maintaining all these different platforms.. Egypt ha been already doing it with efficiency for the last 40 years..The only new comer if it comes will be the Typhoon.. but then it will be easy to train Egyptians on its maintenance in KSA and Italy.. Most Egyptians prefer more Rafale fighter aircrafts though .. but no one really knows why the Typhoon is on the table.. Still.. it is also one of the best 4.5 generation fighters.. so that is that..

 

[XTQ1999]

It is more like a nightmare for the ones who want to confront all these different jamming technologies, missiles, tactics, capabilities and much more.. this is the positive side of diversification

nightmare for who? the closest rivals of Egypt are Turkey and Israel, Turkey has 200+ BVR capable fighters and a powerful economy, if these relations improve with US, which I think they will with recent tensions with Russia in Syria, Turkey will get an additional 100 F-35s, and additional 12 B versions for its LHD. Israel already has more than enough F-35s to pretty much wipe out Egyptian Air Force. There is no positive side to diversification, get a platform that is ahead of others and stick to it.
An Air Force with a 100 Rafales will be much more capable than an Air Force with 4 different platforms adding up to 100 fighters.
Another thing to consider Typhoons and Rafales cannot effectively communicate with Su-35s and MiG-35s

as for maintaining all these different platforms.. Egypt ha been already doing it with efficiency for the last 40 years

and you know that how? Egypt doesn't make the readiness of its air force public in comparison to US, so its pretty much impossible to know how prepared the Air Force is in maintaining such diverse fleet unless you are high up in the chain of command and actually receive such reports.

 

[The SC]

nightmare for who? the closest rivals of Egypt are Turkey and Israel, Turkey has 200+ BVR capable fighters and a powerful economy, if these relations improve with US, which I think they will with recent tensions with Russia in Syria, Turkey will get an additional 100 F-35s, and additional 12 B versions for its LHD. Israel already has more than enough F-35s to pretty much wipe out Egyptian Air Force. There is no positive side to diversification, get a platform that is ahead of others and stick to it.
An Air Force with a 100 Rafales will be much more capable than an Air Force with 4 different platforms adding up to 100 fighters.
Another thing to consider Typhoons and Rafales cannot effectively communicate with Su-35s and MiG-35s



and you know that how? Egypt doesn't make the readiness of its air force public in comparison to US, so its pretty much impossible to know how prepared the Air Force is in maintaining such diverse fleet unless you are high up in the chain of command and actually receive such reports.

Rafale without scalp and meteor will be the same as the Egyptian F16 story.. so that is why Egypt has stalled the Rafale deal.... Typhoons can replace that and with good numbers too.. because Italy will give it is own made missiles..And the Rafale deal is not dead yet.. Egypt can goo back to order more after France is done with the Indian and Qatari orders.. by that time the French scalp will be available and the Meteor is not even a problem now.
As for Egypt's air force readiness you can check the number of exercises they do all the time.. that is a good indication..
Egypt has defeated Usrael fully backed by the US..with Mig-21.. mind you..and beware!

 

[The SC]

Official:

https://www.sassate.it/difesa-fincantieri-marina-fremm/

 

[The SC]

FAC 60 Fast Attack Craft

Fast Attack Craft feature operational capabilities that are comparable to those of larger units. The Stealth hull and topside provide space for a wide selection of different Combat Systems. These ships have extremely low Radar Cross Section and infrared signature.

main characteristics
Length overall
60.00 m
Length between perpendiculars
58.00 m
Beam
9.00 m
Depth
5.50 m
Design displacement
600 - 650 t
Speed (max/range)
30 / 15 kn
Range
1,500 nm
Endurance
14 days
ENERGY AND PROPULSION SYSTEMS
Propulsion system
4 x DE / 4 x FCPP
Generating sets
3 + 1 Emerg.

Crew
Accomodation
25 - 30 people
combat system
1 76 mm SR main gun (stealth version)
1 Radar/EO Fire Control System
1 3D Surveillance Radar + Identification Friend or Foe
1 Combat Management System with Data Link
1 Navigation system
1 Navigation Radar with LPI component
1 Radar Electronic Support Measures
1 Ship to Ship Missile (2 x 2)
1 Ship to Air Missile (2 x 3)
1 Anti-Air Warfare Decoy Launching System (2 launchers)
2 12.7 mm Machine Guns
1 Data Distribution Unit
1 External Communication System
1 Internal Communication System
1 EW System (RESM/CESM, RECM)

 

[Alithemoor1]

Egypt buys FREMM Frigates without EW System and without A70 VLS to fire Cruise Misssile


in 5-6 years Turkish Navy

1 Amphibious Assault Ship TCG ANADOLU
1 Electronic Warfare Ship TCG UFUK
4 OHP class Frigates
4 modernized OHP class Frigates
4 modernized MEKO-200 Track-II class Frigates
4 ISTIF class Frigates
4 ADA class Corvettes
10 New Type FACs
8 Type209 class Submarines
6 Type214 class Submarines

220+km ATMACA anti ship missile with land attack capability
800-1400km GEZGIN Naval Cruise Missile
RAMJET powered supersonic anti ship missille
Supersonic anti ship Ballistic missile

This is a thread about Egypt you Turkish turd. Go back to kissing Erdogan's ***.

 

[Zapper]

India should offer Egypt the newly developed Nilgiri class frigates that are under construction for the IN at various Indian shipyards

 

[Total Destruction]

India should offer Egypt the newly developed Nilgiri class frigates that are under construction for the IN at various Indian shipyards

project 17A?

 

[Zapper]

project 17A?

Yeah, INS Nilgiri is the first of Project 17A which has recently been launched and is currently undergoing installation of sub-systems and weapons. Six more are under construction in Mumbai (MDL) and Kolkata (GRSE) with one more

They're primarily armed with IWI-DRDO's MRSAM and Brahmos AShCM along with MF-STAR AESA radar which IN uses across all it's recently inducted platforms but we can integrate any missile and sub-system per the customer's requirements

 

[The SC]

Yeah, INS Nilgiri is the first of Project 17A which has recently been launched and is currently undergoing installation of sub-systems and weapons. Six more are under construction in Mumbai (MDL) and Kolkata (GRSE) with one more

They're primarily armed with Barak-8 and Brahmos along with MF-STAR AESA radar which IN uses across all it's recently inducted platforms but we can integrate any missile and sub-system per the customer's requirements

Egyptian armed forces showed interest in the Brahmos..but might get the Onyx from Russia if they offer a JV to Egypt ..

 

[Zapper]

Egyptian armed forces showed interest in the Brahmos..but might get the Onyx from Russia if they offer a JV to Egypt too..

Most components in the Brahmos have been replaced with indigenous ones with "seeker" and "booster" being the most recent ones and after MTCR, India has been inducting the extended range Brahmos which all use these indigenous components. We're also on track to develop a much longer range, Brahmos mini (for fighter jets) and a hypersonic version in the long run, with higher % of Indian components which could all be potentially inducted into the Egyptian armed forces while Onyx is a dead cow

While Egypt has Russian weapons systems like the recent orders of Mig-35 & Su-35, there's still a potential risk to face CAATSA which could be leveraged by ordering Brahmos. Also, Russia is keen to export Brahmos over Onyx

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-for-brahmos-missile/articleshow/61774751.cms

https://www.army-technology.com/news/india-tests-brahmos-missile-indigenous-seeker/

 

[The SC]

Most components in the Brahmos have been replaced with indigenous ones with "seeker" and "booster" being the most recent ones and after MTCR, India has been inducting the extended range Brahmos which all use these indigenous components. We're also on track to develop a much longer range, Brahmos mini (for fighter jets) and a hypersonic version in the long run, with higher % of Indian components which could all be potentially inducted into the Egyptian armed forces while Onyx is a dead cow

While Egypt has Russian weapons systems like the recent orders of Mig-35 & Su-35, there's still a potential risk to face CAATSA which could be leveraged by ordering Brahmos. Also, Russia is keen to export Brahmos over Onyx

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-for-brahmos-missile/articleshow/61774751.cms

https://www.army-technology.com/news/india-tests-brahmos-missile-indigenous-seeker/

Egypt Eyes Russian-Indian BrahMos Cruise Missile

Egypt is showing an increasing interest in the BrahMos, a medium-range ramjet supersonic cruise missile developed by India and Russia. According to a Twitter report by Livefist, an Egyptian delegation visited the BrahMos stand at DefExpo 2018.

Egyptian interest in the missile began somewhere in 2016, the Financial Express reported. According to the Brahmand website, Egypt's Chief of the Armed Forces Armament Authority met with CEO the MD of BrahMos Aerospace during his visit to the BrahMos pavilion at DefExpo in Chennai
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The BrahMos is a medium-range ramjet supersonic cruise missile that can be launched from submarine, ships, aircraft, or land. It is the product of BrahMos Aerospace, a joint venture between the Russian Federation's NPO Mashinostroeyenia and India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

The missile has a flight range of up to 290 km and can reach a speed of 2.8 Mach. According to The Diplomat, the extended-range air-launched variant of the BrahMos, designated BrahMos-ER, will purportedly be capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 800 kilometers.

https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/33831