You clearly don't understand what "Sharia" actually is. If you did, you wouldn't have a problem with it.
Sharia means something like 'path', you only answert to Allah and for example, for drinking alcohol, you can get 80 lashes or even death.
Thus, I do have a isseu with Sharia, even more so when people pretend it to somehow be compatible with the west.
There is a fine line between criticizing and SLANDER. Learn the difference.
I know the difference, I have a feeling quite a few of the more conservative muslims don't.
And by the way, even 'insulting' is part of freedom of speech (like Charlie Hebdo), don't like it? Leave.
Who is suggesting that you change your life?
Our rules are the highest in the hierarchy, Salafists don't respect that, making exceptions for them is a change of life, it would even be considered throwing away our own norms.
I never said "evil western countries" so don't quote that.
You did imply that when you're blaming the radicalization solely on on said countries and refusing to call the lack of the will of assimilating of some muslims also a cause.
Yes, a racist population is a cause for radicalization, whether you wish to accept it or not the facts are indisputable. Islamaphobes like Geert Wilders are the reason for your increasingly radicalized population. That's a fact, deal with it.
The KKK and white supremacists wielding guns are the reason why the black panthers exist.
One extreme breeds another.
I don't disagree with that, that is indeed
a cause of radicalization. Majority is not racist, just like the majority of muslims aren't terrorists either. Another big cause of radicalization is the refusal to assimilate, salafism is responsible for that, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia4Belgium
There you go, they called themselves 'salafists' they are one of the biggest reasons so many vunerable youth radicalized.
Wrong, secularism has absolutely no bearing on the success of a country.
Really, there are plenty secular western countries who are succesfull, you can count the succesfull non-secular countries on 1 hand (when you compare them to western countries).
So it's suddenly pretty clear you know nothing about European history. Welp, don't complain when another terrorist attack happens in Belgium. By refusing to accept and get rid of the cause of problems, don't be suprised when that problem pops up again.
Really, don't have most European countries have a 'Christian history', because we have said history, we are more used to it, then it would only make sense that Christianity would be more compatible than Islam (I never actually said that Chirstianity
is compatible, which it isn't, you're right in that, I said it is still more so than Islam, as no western country was ever Muslim, whith Spain beign a notable exception, but then again, Islam doesn't seem to be influencing them all that much either.
You should pay closer attention to what I write. Perhaps I was too unclear, if so, I hope I have cleared things up a little now.
Please go back to school and research human ecology and realize that every society has another society inside it.
I know all too well that everyone has their own culture, but if you live in our country you answer to our laws, salafists clearly don't respect that, that's what I meant with creating your 'own society'.
So speaking a language that he is more familiar with is suddenly disrespecting a country?
He was in the country for 10 years, no one expects a tourist to speak our own language, but if you live in said country for 10 years you should speak the language even a little.
Perhaps you should read more carefully instead going into a little hissy fit, like you did earlier when you said I should "go back to school".
"Wahabbism" is a completely different thing from Salafism and "Wahabbism" isn't a real thing It's mainly used as a derogatory term.
'Salafist' and 'Wahabi' are used interchangeably here, but if it makes you feel better, I'll only use the term 'Salafist' from now on.
If I would call a Muslim person a Salafist, I would use it as an insult anyways, like the term ' uber conservative' or even 'fascist' is used.
Western society is majorly detached with itself, majority of western (belgian in particular) new generation that i know is atheist. So your argument that EU is christian and it's compatibility with islam is not a valid argument.
Never really made that argument, what I was trying to say is that Christianity is more compatible than Islam, because most countries are (were) Chirstian, not Muslim.
States of europe have no religion, young lads have all the other ideas except chritianity. So the debate of religion/sect is not the issue here. It's xenophobia, islamophobia, anthropophobia that creeps in.
No the states are secular in the first place, there's freedom of religion, but that law>any religion.
There we go, of course it is 'xenophobia' and whatnot that causes radicalization, but of course none of the Muslim have done nothing wrong thmeselves, nooooo, not at all, it's all the fault of the so called 'xenophobes', they definitely exist, like Wilders or Dewinter, but they are in the minority, no one denies that, same goes for the Muslims...
It's a viscious circle really, (Some) Muslim (falsely) percieve us to be all 'racists' and then start detaching and radicalizing, which Salafism has a major contribution to, on the other side, because this happens, (some) local poeple have the (false) sentiment that all Muslims are terrorists and whatnot.
Majority of belgium is stuck between wallonia and flanders tussle; ik spreek geen nederlands and je ne parle pas français issue. And here you are talking about foreigners not speaking "your" language! Which one? Locals (white belgians) don't like speaking each regions language and don't like each other.
In the Walloons, there are people who speak French, in Flanders there live people who speak Dutch. The language barrier is definitely a issue, but Flemish learn French at school. The issue between Flanders and Walloons is al lot more complex; it's a lot more than the 'Ik spreek geen Nederlands' bs.
I expected you would know that, professor, clearly you are ignorant on Belgium, like you accuse me to be ignorant on this issue, please stop acting like a hypocrite.
At least I admit I don't know everything, you don't. Perhaps you should do something on your superioity complex, like I should go to a university and not a 'hogechool'.
And then the immigrant belgian issue comes, where shall i start congo? or other african belgians?
No one is pretending that there aren't trouble with any minority group, but there sure are a lot less trouble with the Congelese.
This is a multifaceted societal cum cultural issue.
True, I never siad it wasn't. This particular article is about a Salafist Imam and the 'Muslim' problem in extention, not about the Congolese or any minority like the Hasidic Jews for that matter.
We shouldn't deviate.
Actually real islam is compatible for people living in the west.And rights and duties of said countries do not interfere with real islam.People can be good muslims and good citizens of those countries at the same time.
Never really denied that, what you say is true, People can perfectly be muslim or Christian and be a good citizen, the trouble only start to arise when you do not respect the laws of the country.
Everyone try to shove down his beliefs in others throat or want others to live like him should simply leave and should not be allowed to visit that country again.
Completely agree.
