Good things of Bangladesh Awami League

[livingdead]

Nobody mentioned improved relation with India as success..
and not able to help rohingyas is failure... not success.. they made some tough decision..

 

[eastwatch]

1. you are right
2. BNP started the process, awami league got the verdict, in fact bnp did most of the work.
3. navy yes, army yes but air force hell no..we bought bynch of junk 'stop gap' f 7 bgi

#2) BNP did not even completed the preparation of the necessary documents to take the issue to the UN arbitration, let alone it started the process. Please check the records.

 

[ExtraOdinary]

Bold foreign policy, also focus on economy (achieved 6% growth consistently even when India and China slowed down) , improved HDI.

 

[eastwatch]

Nobody mentioned improved relation with India as success..
and not able to help rohingyas is failure... not success.. they made some tough decision..

AL ways to improve relationship with India is a little out of touch with the reality that India constantly withholds our legitimate water unilaterally. So, the relationship is not a permanent one, and it cannot be called a success.

 

[rubyjackass]

Rohingyas should have been allowed.We allowed them twice before which didn't cause much problem. We forced fellow muslims to death trap. As a muslim I simply can't accept that and feel really ashamed.

Rohingyas will get hurt more if BD allows them inside. As it is they are viewed with suspicion because of the separatist groups they have(some of them want to join Islamic BD). If BD hosts a few of Rohingyas, the rest who stay back in Myanmar will be in even more trouble.

 

[LaBong]

Rohingyas should have been sheltered for humanitarian reasons, but the thing is if bd starts sheltering more and more Rohingyas that will only encourage Myanmar govt to expel more.

As far as relationship with india is concerned, I think some of hasinas good initiatives - like border demarcation and exchange of chitmahals etc were sabotaged by mamata Didi for her own myopic populist vision, I hope now when mamata isn't in a position to arm twist center, this old baggage will be sorted out.

BD have good relation with China as well, I'd not comment on relationship with Pakistan although I do think both countries should leave the past behind.

I think the major success of present government is very good performance at various social indicator and eradication of acute poverty. Also so far it seems relentless for trying the war criminals although the process should have been more transparent like how Israel dealt with nazi war criminals they managed to capture in open and fair tribunals.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Luffy bhai,on the matter of rohingas: its not easy to make such decisions based on religion only.as a country to be strong and united we need to make some hard choices ,this is one such.look what happened the left over PK desendant s in BD.NA PARI GILTE,NA PARI FELTE.They are also Muslim.but that does not justify their living and segregation with our ppl.they are still our nations burden.And if allowed sasme will happen with the rohingas.

The Rohingya issue was not an easy matter. Accept the influx and increase the burden on the nation, or leave them out there at the mercy of the raging seas.

An ethical dilemma indeed.

However, I think they should have at least accepted the first wave of refugees fleeing the violence. It was a humanitarian matter. Suffice to say, Myanmar still burns in Muslim vs. Buddhist violence.

 

[Zabaniyah]

#3:Advancement of arms for army,navy,air force.

Hmm...the army's 3rd generation tank evaluation and procurement program started off back in the BNP administration.

It'd similarly apply to navy and air force. Suppose the air force's current modernization program is on now, it'll still go on even if BNP comes to power. So I wouldn't say that whatever party is in power would necessarily take credit for those!

 

[UKBengali]

Hmm...the army's 3rd generation tank evaluation and procurement program started off back in the BNP administration.

It'd similarly apply to navy and air force. Suppose the air force's current modernization program is on now, it'll still go on even if BNP comes to power. So I wouldn't say that whatever party is in power would necessarily take credit for those!

When do you think an order would be placed for 4th generation fighters?

It seems to me that the Awami League is focusing on the navy primarily and then the army. Air-force only got 16 outdated F-7BGI.

 

[arp2041]

THE BEST THING THAT I SEE IN THE AL IS THAT HER LEADER'S NAME IS HASINA!!!!!

THIS SHOWS HOW BEAUTIFUL THE PARTY MUST BE

 

[Zabaniyah]

When do you think an order would be placed for 4th generation fighters?

It seems to me that the Awami League is focusing on the navy primarily and then the army. Air-force only got 16 outdated F-7BGI.

According to our air chief, the order for 4th generation planes should materialize within 13-15 years since 2011.

So that is the only source we can count on as far as your question goes. They are still evaluating the candidates. These things take time, and not something that can be done quickly.

India's MMRCA program for example started off way back in 2001 if I'm not mistaken. With Rafale taking the cake, there are still issues that need to be worked on so that its production and service are to fully materialize.

One can't ignore the navy though. It's a very important arm. The F-7BGI's are a stop gap, and last to roll off Chengdu's production lines. So we won't be seeing them - ever.

RIP F-7 production.

 

[UKBengali]

According to our air chief, the order for 4th generation planes should materialize within 13-15 years since 2011.

BD cannot wait till 2025 to get 4th generation fighters in quantity.

We need them quicker - 40-50 aircraft by the end of the decade at the latest.

Suppose it all comes down to funding as the BD defence procurement budget looks set to be eaten mainly by the navy for the foreseeable future.

The Awami League were right to focus on the navy as this needs to be made into a decent force to secure BD's interests in the Bay of Bengal.

Even if it is to support the BD Navy with air-cover in the Bay of Bengal, an aircraft like the Su-27/30 would be the perfect choice. So air-force modernisation is urgently needed!

 

[Maira La]

BD cannot wait till 2025 to get 4th generation fighters in quantity.

We need them quicker - 40-50 aircraft by the end of the decade at the latest.

Suppose it all comes down to funding as the BD defence procurement budget looks set to be eaten mainly by the navy for the foreseeable future.

The Awami League were right to focus on the navy as this needs to be made into a decent force to secure BD's interests in the Bay of Bengal.

Even if it is to support the BD Navy with air-cover in the Bay of Bengal, an aircraft like the Su-27/30 would be the perfect choice. So air-force modernisation is urgently needed!

It's not a stop-gap measure like the media is saying.

Ex Air Chief Ziaur Rahman, under pressure to purchase modern equipments and aircrafts for the BAF, opted for the traditional procurement route (F-7 as usual) to avoid getting into political scandals like his predecessors in BAF (and BN).

The money spent (not too much according to some) could be saved for future procurements.

 

[Zabaniyah]

It's not a stop-gap measure like the media is saying.

Ex Air Chief Ziaur Rahman, under pressure to purchase modern equipments and aircrafts for the BAF, opted for the traditional procurement route (F-7 as usual) to avoid getting into political scandals like his predecessors in BAF (and BN).

The money spent (not too much according to some) could be saved for future procurements.

How can anyone forget the MiG-29 scandal?

BNP even tried to sell them off once purely out of poolitics.

 

[UKBengali]

It's not a stop-gap measure like the media is saying.

Ex Air Chief Ziaur Rahman, under pressure to purchase modern equipments and aircrafts for the BAF, opted for the traditional procurement route (F-7 as usual) to avoid getting into political scandals like his predecessors in BAF (and BN).

The money spent (not too much according to some) could be saved for future procurements.

Well it was around 150 million dollars for 16 F-7BGI's.

BD urgently needs 4th generation fighters as it is totally outclassed by even Myanmar who have around 30 Mig-29s. I don't see how 8 Mig-29s and the 16 F-7BGI's would have a hope against these.

An urgent order for 16-24 4th generation planes need to be put in now for delivery by 2015/2016. Money needs to be found somehow.