Good news on Kashmir likely before LS polls in India: Zardari

[Spring Onion]

Good news on Kashmir likely before LS polls in India: Zardari
9 Sep 2008, 1722 hrs IST,PTI


ISLAMABAD: Suggesting that there could be forward movement on resolving the Kashmir issue soon, Pakistan's new President Asif Ali Zardari on Tuesday said there will be "some good news" before the general elections in India slated for next year. ( Watch )

"Insha Allah, we will have some good news" on Kashmir before the general elections in India, Zardari said at a joint press conference with Afghan President Hamid Karzai after being sworn-in as Pakistan's 12th President.

He said the PPP government will consult all political forces in Pakistan, both inside and outside Parliament, to forge some kind of a strategy to resolve the Kashmir issue.

This will be taken to the Kashmir Committee in Parliament, Zardari said, adding the work done through back-channel diplomacy will also be part of this.

Good news on Kashmir likely before LS polls in India: Zardari-Pakistan-World-The Times of India

 

[Spring Onion]

Any idea what is on his mind ???

 

[Always Neutral]

Any idea what is on his mind ???

Must say he seems to be more optimistic than the rest world including the Kashmiris.

Regards

 

[Spring Onion]

Must say he seems to be more optimistic than the rest world including the Kashmiris.

Regards

Optamism on the basis of what ???

He says it will be resolved soon and he also saya that the work done through back-channel diplomacy will also be part of soultion to the issue.

Now what according to him could be the solution ???

 

[maqsad]

I think he will give India some big part of Jammu in return for some smaller pieces to merge with Pakistan and then officially recognize a new border with India.

 

[Spring Onion]

I think he will give India some big part of Jammu in return for some smaller pieces to merge with Pakistan and then officially recognize a new border with India.

That would be a disaster for Kashmiris.

Pluse what you mean by smaller pieces??
Kashmir Valley ??? or he is going to beak the valley into more pieces.?

 

[Awaaz]

We should never give an inch of kashmir to india and never stop fighting for the rest of kashmir that india occupies.

Till last drop of blood we should fight for kashmir, india should allow the people of kashmir to have a referendum to allow them to choose whom they wish to be with.

 

[maqsad]

That would be a disaster for Kashmiris.

Pluse what you mean by smaller pieces??
Kashmir Valley ??? or he is going to beak the valley into more pieces.?

What do you think, India will just give every piece of Kashmir away so easily? The only thing India has any need from pakistan is recognition of a border which includes occupied Kashmir. Otherwise they can just keep occupying Kashmir so what they will do is find areas which have the most hindus in them and partition those off and also take some empty land around those areas to give their military an easy area to defend and then kick many muslims out from that area and sign a treaty with pakistan for new national borders and finish the kashmir issue forever. And many many more thousands of Kashmiris will be killed when they move from their houses to pakistan, it will be like a mini-1947.

 

[maqsad]

We should never give an inch of kashmir to india and never stop fighting for the rest of kashmir that india occupies.

Till last drop of blood we should fight for kashmir, india should allow the people of kashmir to have a referendum to allow them to choose whom they wish to be with.

They will never give a referendum are you crazy? If they held referendums then next Khalistan would want a referendum. What they will do is make a deal with Zardari for him to take control of some little areas and make them part of pakistan. In return Zardari will recognize a new border of Kashmir and give some of it away to India, permanently.

 

[Awesome]

They will never give a referendum are you crazy? If they held referendums then next Khalistan would want a referendum. What they will do is make a deal with Zardari for him to take control of some little areas and make them part of pakistan. In return Zardari will recognize a new border of Kashmir and give some of it away to India, permanently.

So in other words Zardari's going to ask for 10% of Kashmir?

Classic.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

AA lol well said!

 

[Myth_buster_1]

AA lol well said!

 

[Spring Onion]

What do you think, India will just give every piece of Kashmir away so easily? The only thing India has any need from pakistan is recognition of a border which includes occupied Kashmir. Otherwise they can just keep occupying Kashmir so what they will do is find areas which have the most hindus in them and partition those off and also take some empty land around those areas to give their military an easy area to defend and then kick many muslims out from that area and sign a treaty with pakistan for new national borders and finish the kashmir issue forever. And many many more thousands of Kashmiris will be killed when they move from their houses to pakistan, it will be like a mini-1947.

I know that Sir India is not going to give even one piece. I am asking do you think Zardari is going to get away with that ????


Dont you think it will lead to mass protest and chaos in Pakistan on streets.

 

[maqsad]

I know that Sir India is not going to give even one piece. I am asking do you think Zardari is going to get away with that ????


Dont you think it will lead to mass protest and chaos in Pakistan on streets.

Yes he might get away with it. Right now India is under pressure because of the uprising so this is the only time they are willing to seriously consider a final solution. BTW Pakistan gave away a piece of Kashmir to China and India also lost a big piece of Kashmir to China...do you see any rioting in the streets over that? Do you even see a mention in newspapers about it? The trick is to keep stuff like that away from the public by hiding it. It won't happen all at once but he will make some deal with Delhi which will be executed in 4 or 5 parts. Instead of one big backstab to Kashmiris he will stab them quietly 4 or 5 times instead. Then he will get GEO, ARY, PTV etc to spread lies about each part to keep the Pakistani public fooled and even some of the Kashmiris fooled.

Now you will ask me but why should India give away an inch of Kashmir when they have 700,000 troops there and their military is getting richer and richer every year? Why? Well I will tell you why. Because Mushy started a plan which Zardari is going to finish also. Zardari will use tricks to start a (fake preplanned)war with India and then a cease fire with India and then the USA will come in to negotiate the ceasefire. Of course the USA will say hey you guys you live and die for Kashmir and your main reason for nukes is India so why don't we make a deal--you give up nukes and in return you get some of Kashmir and also a permanent border agreement and then there will be no more Kahsmir issues, no more indo-pak wars and no more need for nukes. So then Zardari will say OK and sign the ceasefire and peace treaty together with India and the UN and agree to give up nukes in a few years if India meets the agreement for Kashmir. Now this could also be why Mushy got Zardari out of Jail and into power. Because Mushy by himself is not able to do something so treacherous, because the military will not let him do it so this is where Zardari comes in--for the endgame of betrayal and treachery.

Now if this happens it will not be the end at all because as soon as the nukes are gone in a couple of years suddenly India will say Pakistan is breaking the peace treaty because RAW will blow up some buildings in India and Indian occupied Kashmir. Then, Indians will get ready to do cross border invasions and there will be no nukes to deter them.

 

[Rohit]

Kashmir is legally ours because of the IoA.

I hope he gives back P-O-K and settles the issue once for all.