'God Will Provide', Believe 3 Pakistani Men Who Sired 96 Children

[El Sidd]

I feel like if you could start writing in a straightforward manner instead of being poetic things could come across more clearly.

Also clealry many with this same faith have procreated like rabbits and then complain for a life of mediocrity.

Sir I have provided you enough answers already.

A) it balances out the population protecting human species. Its natures self defense mechanism.

B) it is his choice and his kin.

God if any will ask him first and he won't ask me if i end up paying 2.5 percent dutifully.

C) it goes against exact wording of one particular book and I haven't grown enough balls to go against that. If you have you can form a government which will ban more than 2 kids or have a bank do a case study first regarding how many kids the couple is likely to afford. Like a credit rating system.

And mediocrity?

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

Sir I have provided you enough answers already.

A) it balances out the population protecting human species. Its natures self defense mechanism.

B) it is his choice and his kin.

God if any will ask him first and he won't ask me if i end up paying 2.5 percent dutifully.

C) it goes against exact wording of one particular book and I haven't grown enough balls to go against that. If you have you can form a government which will ban more than 2 kids or have a bank do a case study first regarding how many kids the couple is likely to afford. Like a credit rating system.

And mediocrity?

Well to start off i dont think any protection of human species is needed. If anything overpopulation is killing the planet.
And ofcourse its his choice and his children and hence its his responsibility but having 30 children is not the way especially when you cant provide for them . Do you think this man has educated all his children ? Or that he alone will be able to arrange for the dowries of his daughters and their marriage expenses ? Ofcourse no one can stop him but people need to advised against this nature. Allah has promised us that children who come into this world bring their rizq with them. But he has also given as common sense. Had all this not been true Africa would be the most prosperous continent on earth.

 

[Spring Onion]

My bad must have missed the part of Islam where one's customs are exempt from being Part of the religion. As I said (I love the idiots that take what's being said by THE ALMIGHTY out of context to justify their desires or needs and ignoring the rest because that doesn't fit their agenda).

DO NOT TWIST FACTS KINDLY just to suit your own thinking.

Islam negated all kinds of inhuman customs simple as that . And in case of Islam Almighty Allah has already laid down rules and regulations for everything.

For example the family planning is already permissible in Islam when the mother are asked to feed their babies for specific years during which pregnancy does not take place even science says so.

Individuals have the right to chose his or her partner no doubt, but when individual multiplies by 100s and can't provide for them, then they become state problem, you might be familiar with the term empty hands are devils playground

Sorry STATE in Pakistan does not fulfill responsibilities. We and such poor persons also pay taxes even on smallest item such a mobile recharge card and that too , very heavily but still state does not facilitate us so no it is not a state problem in this case.

And thus his unflinching faith that God will.

Now you can ask God who will put food on his table and not me.

My apologies if you did not understand my food street answer as a human. My fault.

As a Muslim after so much deliberation and observation now I firmly believe yes God/Allah will provide and does provide rizq.

And no matter how much we try one cannot get more than what is destined for him or her.

 

[El Sidd]

Well to start off i dont think any protection of human species is needed. If anything overpopulation is killing the planet.
And ofcourse its his choice and his children and hence its his responsibility but having 30 children is not the way especially when you cant provide for them . Do you think this man has educated all his children ? Or that he alone will be able to arrange for the dowries of his daughters and their marriage expenses ? Ofcourse no one can stop him but people need to advised against this nature. Allah has promised us that children who come into this world bring their rizq with them. But he has also given as common sense. Had all this not been true Africa would be the most prosperous continent on earth.

You clearly care little for evolution.

And please read the book before talking about common sense. It has the exact answer for you.

And i am not even religious but i chose to read.

He is likely to give knowledge to them and not education and it counts little to you and me.

 

[Spring Onion]

You clearly care little for evolution.

And please read the book before talking about common sense. It has the exact answer for you.

And i am not even religious but i chose to read.

He is likely to give knowledge to them and not education and it counts little to you and me.

Sidd when they send their kids to technical schools to learn plumber work, electrician skills, carpentering, etc etc in the west we call it skill learning when we in subcontinent send our kids to learn all these we are termed as cruel and labeled as child labour supporters.

The only difference is here due to bad economy we do not have such sophisticated schools but local workshops.

In the west when young kids work at stores as sales persons or perform other such small tasks as part time job it is said they are looking after own self when in subcontinent young kids do that then it is called child labour.

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

You clearly care little for evolution.

And please read the book before talking about common sense. It has the exact answer for you.

And i am not even religious but i chose to read.

He is likely to give knowledge to them and not education and it counts little to you and me.

Evolution insists on the survival of the fittest and having no education and spending your entire life on your fathers farm doesn't give this children alot of chance. How good of a life do you think these children will have knowing just one skill and how well will these children provide for their own children ? Unemployment is at an all time high and the countries resources are going down at an alarming rate. Its estimated that the earth cannot sustain more than 10 billion people and we're already at 7.6 bil and if everyone took this approach we'll be seeing starvation pretty soon.

Is it not more virtuous to provide a good life for 4 or 5 children than having 80 with an extremely mediocre life ?

 

[El Sidd]

DO NOT TWIST FACTS KINDLY just to suit your own thinking.

Islam negated all kinds of inhuman customs simple as that . And in case of Islam Almighty Allah has already laid down rules and regulations for everything.

For example the family planning is already permissible in Islam when the mother are asked to feed their babies for specific years during which pregnancy does not take place even science says so.



Sorry STATE in Pakistan does not fulfill responsibilities. We and such poor persons also pay taxes even on smallest item such a mobile recharge card and that too , very heavily but still state does not facilitate us so no it is not a state problem in this case.



As a Muslim after so much deliberation and observation now I firmly believe yes God/Allah will provide and does provide rizq.

And no matter how much we try one cannot get more than what is destined for him or her.

Doesn't have to be Muslim faith. Being a human in itself will tell you that

Evolution insists on the survival of the fittest and having no education and spending your entire life on your fathers farm doesn't give this children alot of chance. How good of a life do you think these children will have knowing just one skill and how well will these children provide for their own children ? Unemployment is at an all time high and the countries resources are going down at an alarming rate. Its estimated that the earth cannot sustain more than 10 billion people and we're already at 7.6 bil and if everyone took this approach we'll be seeing starvation pretty soon.

Is it not more virtuous to provide a good life for 4 or 5 children than having 80 with an extremely mediocre life ?

Buddy if you choose this way of understanding life or its quality then no wonder only 1 percent of humans hold wealth more than 60 percent of the world.

And as someone from Punjab it is quite ironic to see you think lowly of the farmers. Since Pakistan is an agriculture based economy.

Shirley you must understand humans cannot define quality of life for other humans.

 

[Spring Onion]

Doesn't have to be Muslim faith. Being a human in itself will tell you that

The Subject of Quran is "Insan" Human not Musalman

So it is the same thing being Muslims is being Human as per Quran

Evolution insists on the survival of the fittest and having no education and spending your entire life on your fathers farm doesn't give this children alot of chance. How good of a life do you think these children will have knowing just one skill and how well will these children provide for their own children ? Unemployment is at an all time high and the countries resources are going down at an alarming rate. Its estimated that the earth cannot sustain more than 10 billion people and we're already at 7.6 bil and if everyone took this approach we'll be seeing starvation pretty soon.

Is it not more virtuous to provide a good life for 4 or 5 children than having 80 with an extremely mediocre life ?

what is a mediocre life?

BTW do you know that kids both daughters and sons of wealthiest or rather filthy rich in Islamabad, Pindi, Lahore are involved in sex business for earning money to fulfill their lavish life style or out of habit. They charge per night spent in big known hotels. It is now an old news. The methods must have been much polished now

All life is mediocre.
Just a coincidence nothing else. A chance one in some billions.

And i shizz you not I don't care how they manage. I am not bothered unless they break the law or are reported for that.

Actually my point is not their character or activities my point is as per the other member's defination these high class kids do not have a mediocre or for that matter ghatiya poor life still they are resort to such activities which BTW are against the law at least in Pakistan so what is the use of not having mediocre life or for that matter having a rich life style ?

 

[Fledgingwings]

Are you quoting happy feet 2 ?

Nope! it actually is hurting after reading all this.

 

[RoadRunner401]

My words.

I love the idiots that take what's being said by THE ALMIGHTY out of context to justify their desires or needs and ignoring the rest because that doesn't fit their agenda. THE ALMIGHTY also said not to take on another wife, if you cannot provide for the first one plus you must have her (wife) permission to marry another, I am willing to bet mullah forgot that part of the religion

To which you replied and I quote

Since the men involved are from my belt or familiar to ours so let me add something . In these cases or in other such cases more than the religion it is the customs that are at work.

And then 360° Turn and blaming me for your own words

DO NOT TWIST FACTS KINDLY just to suit your own thinking.

Islam negated all kinds of inhuman customs simple as that .

What's wrong with this picture; are you bloody for real!!

 

[Eagle_storm]

Will someone post the thread

Four indian rape a pregnant mother.

 

[Soumitra]

In the west when young kids work at stores as sales persons or perform other such small tasks as part time job it is said they are looking after own self when in subcontinent young kids do that then it is called child labour.

the difference is when in the west they work part time in shops and restaurants they are doing to earn some extra pocket money while in sub continent they are forced to do it to support their families becaue the family income is low

 

[Manama]

the difference is when in the west they work part time in shops and restaurants they are doing to earn some extra pocket money while in sub continent they are forced to do it to support their families becaue the family income is low

This ^

 

[Kabira]

the difference is when in the west they work part time in shops and restaurants they are doing to earn some extra pocket money while in sub continent they are forced to do it to support their families becaue the family income is low

+1

child labour is huge social problem in poor countries, cannot be compared with teens working in west to buy latest gadgets

https://twitter.com/x/status/874255711563386880

Almost half of child labour is concentrated in region which make 15% of Pak population.

Sir I have provided you enough answers already.

A) it balances out the population protecting human species. Its natures self defense mechanism.

B) it is his choice and his kin.

God if any will ask him first and he won't ask me if i end up paying 2.5 percent dutifully.

C) it goes against exact wording of one particular book and I haven't grown enough balls to go against that. If you have you can form a government which will ban more than 2 kids or have a bank do a case study first regarding how many kids the couple is likely to afford. Like a credit rating system.

And mediocrity?

What kind of liberal are you? If Pakistan acted on child labour laws then most of problems associated with poverty will go away. Parents would no longer breed just so their 8 years old could work and provide them. And in process ruin child life for ever.

 

[El Sidd]

+1

child labour is huge social problem in poor countries, cannot be compared with teens working in west to buy latest gadgets

https://twitter.com/x/status/874255711563386880

Almost half of child labour is concentrated in region which make 15% of Pak population.



What kind of liberal are you? If Pakistan acted on child labour laws then most of problems associated with poverty will go away. Parents would no longer breed just so their 8 years old could work and provide them. And in process ruin child life for ever.

I don't know which kind of liberal. Maybe orange.

And i am a philosophically liberal not political