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The release on Wednesday of dramatic new data pointing to the existence of the Higgs boson "God particle" sent a special flutter of pride, mixed with frustration, through India's scientific community.

The "Higgs" of Higgs boson is well known to refer to Peter Higgs, the Britishresearcher who in 1964 laid much of the conceptual groundwork for the presence of the elusive particle.
What is largely unknown, at least to non-specialists, is that the term "boson" owes its name to the pioneering work of the late Indian physicist, Satyendra Nath Bose.

Born during British colonial rule in 1894 in Calcutta (now Kolkata), Bose was a lecturer at both the universities of Calcutta and Dhaka.

In 1924, he sent a paper to Albert Einstein describing a statistical model that eventually led to the discovery of what became known as the Bose-Einstein condensate phenomenon.

The paper laid the basis for describing the two fundamental classes of sub-atomic particles -- bosons, named after Bose, and fermions, after the Italian physicist Enrico Fermi.

While several Nobel prizes have been awarded research related to the concepts of the boson, Bose himself was never honoured by the Nobel academy.

Archan Majumdar, an astrophysicist at the eponymous Satyendra Nath Bose National Centre for Basic Sciences in Kolkata, said Bose's name would be better known if his discoveries hadn't been made during the colonial era.

"If India had been an independent nation he could have got more recognition than he has," Majumdar said.

"Also, if he had the Nobel prize which he deserved more than many others he would have been more known, but unfortunately it didn't happen."

In 1954 Bose awarded the Padma Vibhushan -- India's second highest civilian honour. He died in 1974

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world is searching for "god particle" and here in india we have several self proclaimed "living gods" (asaram, sri sri, ramdev, kripalu maharaj, nirmal baba, nithyanand, lal kitaab amrit........... (the list is long).

did u missed pope ??
 
Actually Stephen Hawking conceded that he lost that famous bet!

Even i thought Higgs Boson will always remain in theory only, cannot be proven or validated by experimentation. Still i'm reluctant to accept it as long as i'm not reading the detailed analysis.

I mean how amusing is this, they're proving the existence of a particle which gives mass to another particle. :D

Does that mean Boson Particle has immensely high density? (this question might sound pretty noob)
 
Even i thought Higgs Boson will always remain in theory only, cannot be proven or validated by experimentation. Still i'm reluctant to accept it as long as i'm not reading the detailed analysis.

I mean how amusing is this, they're proving the existence of a particle which gives mass to another particle. :D

Does that mean Boson Particle has immensely high density? (this question might sound pretty noob)
Density in what sense, in trillions of collision only few hundreds have been found(proposed)...about rest dno
 
Density in what sense, in trillions of collision only few hundreds have been found(proposed)...about rest dno

In one article, i remember. A tea spoon full of neutrons will weigh several thousand tonnes, these are hypothetical questions. Isolating neutrons is not possible, just consider a hypothetical scenario...

A neutron star of of 1.4 solar masses and a radius of 15km would have a mean density of about 2*1017 kg/m3. A teaspoonful (5mL) of material at that density would weigh in at about 109 tons.

That's what i meant.
 
In one article, i remember. A tea spoon full of neutrons will weigh several thousand tonnes, these are hypothetical questions. Isolating neutrons is not possible, just consider a hypothetical scenario...



That's what i meant.
Higgs boson gives mass to these particles, i don't know what gives mass to this boson... When you consider these things (like neutrons, protons etc) other forces become predominant than gravitational force, like weak nuclear forces. That's why we transfer to another frame and this analogy is just to understand how strong these forces are.
 
The 1st one wins..of course..becuz the second one doesn't exist!

The second one gives us inspiration to find the first one. :coffee:

Higgs boson gives mass to these particles, i don't know what gives mass to this boson... When you consider these things (like neutrons, protons etc) other forces become predominant than gravitational force, like weak nuclear forces. That's why we transfer to another frame and this analogy is just to understand how strong these forces are.

That's why i was wondering about it's density compared to other subatomic particles, and i thinking about convergence of Higgs-Boson theory with String Theory, and the String Theory, which seems to describe physics lot better than other theorems, doesn't have any provision for Higgs-Boson Particles.

And if the existence of Higgs-Boson particles is proved, that'll thwart the String Theory. This will give many sleepless nights to Stephen Hawking.
 
'God particle': The Indian connection with Higgs boson - The Times of India


GENEVA: As all eyes today focus on the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, famously known as CERN, Indian scientific and technological contributions are among the many that keeps the world's biggest particle physics laboratory buzzing.

In a 'quantum' leap in physics, CERN scientists today claimed to have spotted a sub-atomic particle "consistent" with the Higgs boson or 'God particle', believed to be a crucial building block that led to the formation of the universe.

There is an intrinsic Indian connection to what is happening at CERN - Satyendra Nath Bose. It is Bose after whom the sub-atomic particle 'boson' is named.

His study changed the way Particle Physics has been studied ever since. The Higgs boson is a particle that is theoretically the reason why all matter in the Universe has mass.

The name Higgs boson came from a British scientist Peter Higgs and Bose. The work done by Bose and Albert Einstein, later added by Higgs, lead to this pioneering day.

"India is like a historic father of the project," Paolo Giubellino, CERN spokesperson had said back in October last year when PTI visited the facility.

At the core of the CERN, spread over two countries as it is situated near the Swiss-Franco border, is the 27-km long tunnel, over 70 metres beneath the ground, where the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) or commonly referred to as the Big Bang experiment was conducted last year.

The experiment had aimed to recreate the conditions of the Big Bang, when the universe is thought to have exploded into existence about 14 billion years ago.

The CERN runs a number of experimental projects and over 100 Indian scientists are working round
the clock.


'God particle': The Indian connection with Higgs boson - The Times of India
 
The release on Wednesday of dramatic new data pointing to the existence of the Higgs boson "God particle" sent a special flutter of pride, mixed with frustration, through India's scientific community.

The "Higgs" of Higgs boson is well known to refer to Peter Higgs, the Britishresearcher who in 1964 laid much of the conceptual groundwork for the presence of the elusive particle.
What is largely unknown, at least to non-specialists, is that the term "boson" owes its name to the pioneering work of the late Indian physicist, Satyendra Nath Bose.

Born during British colonial rule in 1894 in Calcutta (now Kolkata), Bose was a lecturer at both the universities of Calcutta and Dhaka.

In 1924, he sent a paper to Albert Einstein describing a statistical model that eventually led to the discovery of what became known as the Bose-Einstein condensate phenomenon.

The paper laid the basis for describing the two fundamental classes of sub-atomic particles -- bosons, named after Bose, and fermions, after the Italian physicist Enrico Fermi.

While several Nobel prizes have been awarded research related to the concepts of the boson, Bose himself was never honoured by the Nobel academy.

Archan Majumdar, an astrophysicist at the eponymous Satyendra Nath Bose National Centre for Basic Sciences in Kolkata, said Bose's name would be better known if his discoveries hadn't been made during the colonial era.

"If India had been an independent nation he could have got more recognition than he has," Majumdar said.

"Also, if he had the Nobel prize which he deserved more than many others he would have been more known, but unfortunately it didn't happen."


In 1954 Bose awarded the Padma Vibhushan -- India's second highest civilian honour. He died in 1974

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Seriously, what BS is that!? Bose was a theoretical physicist. Since when did theoretical physicists get Nobel Prizes just for their theories? Had Bose been alive today when the Higgs-Boson has almost been discovered, then probably he might have shared any Nobel Prize that may have been awarded to the effort. But I still would highly doubt that. Theoretical physicists dont get Nobel prizes. Case in point - Stephen Hawking.

So when did Rabindranath Tagore or C V Raman get their Nobel Prizes? After independence?
 
Seriously, what BS is that!? Bose was a theoretical physicist. Since when did theoretical physicists get Nobel Prizes just for their theories? Had Bose been alive today when the Higgs-Boson has almost been discovered, then probably he might have shared any Nobel Prize that may have been awarded to the effort. But I still would highly doubt that. Theoretical physicists dont get Nobel prizes. Case in point - Stephen Hawking.
When their theories are found correct by experimentation. The theorist and experimenter gets the prize. Noble prize is not given posthumously.
 
Because observable universe seems to be in a constant expansion, it is easy to preposition that the farther back in time you will go the denser universe will be until the point of immense density, so it presumed that outburst of all the matter wasn't a sloth crawl in a park but more like an explosion, oh and the evidence? well how about cosmic background radiation?

Cosmic microwave background radiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

scientist still dont have any idea how vast is universe ... and they are only checking the part they can see through their radio telescopes ... I can put another theory that the observable universe is just a tiny part of whole infinite system ... so this might be a case that this expansion is taking place because of huge gravitational pull from all sides from unknown huge universal bodies that can not be viewed directly or indirectly through current techniques and technologies ... Big Bang is just a theory so is mine..
 
Isnt it Higgs Boson??

Boson from the name Nath Bose who worked with Albert E and also with Higgs??
which is called God particle?
just Higgs or Boson or Higgs Boson??
 
Seriously, what BS is that!? Bose was a theoretical physicist. Since when did theoretical physicists get Nobel Prizes just for their theories? Had Bose been alive today when the Higgs-Boson has almost been discovered, then probably he might have shared any Nobel Prize that may have been awarded to the effort. But I still would highly doubt that. Theoretical physicists dont get Nobel prizes. Case in point - Stephen Hawking.

So when did Rabindranath Tagore or C V Raman get their Nobel Prizes? After independence?

It's ironic that Stephen Hawking is yet to win a Nobel prize, given that his theory of Gravitational singularity of a Black Hole, and black hole radiation has been validated and proved.

Indeed , but please just stay away from Economics and finance. No offence :D :)

Does Amartya Sen ring any bell? :D

Don't stereotype bongs by miscreants of Mamata and other commies.
 

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