GLOBAL JIHAD: A THREAT THAT INDIA AND PAKISTAN CANNOT IGNORE – ANALYSIS

[acid rain]

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then you making another sitaution like currently having in pak in inida

Not likely, only in kashmir because it is a muslim majority state and probably UP and Hyderabad because Muslims there are in vast numbers.

It depends on whether on that collapse, the nuclear weapons are removed or not. If not, then India is in a $hit load of trouble, if removed, then India would welcome the collapse as then disproportionate force can be used by GoI.

They are talking of demilitarization of Gaza, Iraq was effectively "demilitarized" off of any major offensive weapons.

 

[Spring Onion]

How about we nuke whole Ummah ? We shud name it Ghazwa-e-ummah or something like that lol delusional terrorists don't understand India is not Iraq or Libya.

Try it you bharotis cant even fire a missile on ummah

 

[Contrarian]

Are you suggesting GoI is capable of genocide?

No, they are not capable. Not even if GoI wanted to do it.

But the borders can be enforced in a manner that India has hitherto not been able to because of the threat of escalation and war with a nuclear armed country.

 

[Spring Onion]

It depends on whether on that collapse, the nuclear weapons are removed or not. If not, then India is in a $hit load of trouble, if removed, then India would welcome the collapse as then disproportionate force can be used by GoI.

so far no nukes have been used by militants. India will be in shit load even if nukes are removed after no nukes are used in Afghanistan .

there are many players and they will love to see India raped in case of such scenario

 

[Contrarian]

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then you making another sitaution like currently having in pak in inida

Do you mean having a lawless land like Afghanistan because of which Pakistan has to suffer.
I dont think so.
Pakistan is unwilling to use extreme force on the durand line and seal it because of tribal families that lie on either side of the durand line.

India will have no such compunctions on its border with Pakistan. Besides, Pakistani Punjab and Sindh have always had a settled people, not tribals.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Do you mean having a lawless land like Afghanistan that Pakistan has to suffer because of.
I dont think so.
Pakistan is unwilling to use extreme force on the durand line and seal it because of tribal families that lie on either side of the durand line.

India will have no such compunctions on its border with Pakistan. Besides, Pakistani Punjab and Sindh have always had a settled people, not tribals.

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disproportionate force can be used by GoI.
my commets was refenre to your this comment ....
using jiahd... relgion for destrction for nationla gain will lead to BIG mess...
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Durad line..
using afg as strategic depth costed pak dearly..
now they are taking step or think to have fense border...
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our problem is state sposeed terrosisma // jihad in kashmir and in india
if they can close that
we are not much concern with what they do wiht durad line ...
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[HariPrasad]

Let the Jihadis come to India. The world will be free from Jihadis very soon.

 

[SQ8]

No, they are not capable. Not even if GoI wanted to do it.

But the borders can be enforced in a manner that India has hitherto not been able to because of the threat of escalation and war with a nuclear armed country.

So India will be willing to kill innocents before proven guilty?

 

[Contrarian]

So India will be willing to kill innocents before proven guilty?

I think you and I are talking about different things.

Under the assumption that there are no nuclear weapons - regardless of whether Pakistan as a full fledged state exists or not - India will then go very aggressive on border management.

How exactly do you define innocents in this scenario?
I said India will be able to enforce the border with extreme prejudice and force under the scenario we are considering. Something it can not do right now because GoI does not want to get into escalatory war with a nuclear armed country.

Consequently, IA is not tasked officially to go and kill those who run camps in Azad Kashmir. Which is why some IA units were tasked to lay traps inside Azad Kashmir areas that border Kashmir around passes - from where terrorists entered Kashmir.

 

[SQ8]

I think you and I are talking about different things.

Under the assumption that there are no nuclear weapons - regardless of whether Pakistan as a full fledged state exists or not - India will then go very aggressive on border management.

How exactly do you define innocents in this scenario?
I said India will be able to enforce the border with extreme prejudice and force under the scenario we are considering. Something it can not do right now because GoI does not want to get into escalatory war with a nuclear armed country.

Consequently, IA is not tasked officially to go and kill those who run camps in Azad Kashmir. Which is why some IA units were tasked to lay traps inside Azad Kashmir areas that border Kashmir around passes - from where terrorists entered Kashmir.

I am referring to the scenario where militants essentially take over spaces of Pakistan much like they did in Iraq. People from those affected regions may flee wherever they can. Will India cooperate with Pakistan in such a scenario or only ensure that the military propagation continue and let/acquiesce to militants executing innocent civilians fleeing the combat zone if they decide to head east to escape them?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

I am referring to the scenario where militants essentially take over spaces of Pakistan much like they did in Iraq. People from those affected regions may flee wherever they can. Will India cooperate with Pakistan in such a scenario or only ensure that the military propagation continue and let/acquiesce to militants executing innocent civilians fleeing the combat zone if they decide to head east to escape them?

In such a scenario I believe that the GoI will be stupid to allow those militants to take control of an inch of Pakistani soil. Remember, history has proven that Pakistan is the entry point for India's invasion

 

[Contrarian]

I am referring to the scenario where militants essentially take over spaces of Pakistan much like they did in Iraq. People from those affected regions may flee wherever they can. Will India cooperate with Pakistan in such a scenario or only ensure that the military propagation continue and let/acquiesce to militants executing innocent civilians fleeing the combat zone if they decide to head east to escape them?

You have left out a whole lot of details on which any GoI will base its decision.
1. For example - have the nuclear weapons been taken out by US/China/International Consortium or secured by the remnant Pakistani Govt.

2. Or are they fair game in their silos with the militants running a race to get to them first.

In case where nuclear weapons have been removed from the situation(point 1), GoI under BJP will be indifferent to Pakistan and seal the borders essentially acquiescing to civilian executions by the terrorists.

GoI under Congress will allow all refugees but not cooperate with Pakistan/minor cooperation in order to prevent complete State collapse.

All the while both making statements supporting Pakistan.

In case where there is a possibility of nuclear weapons falling in the hands of the militants(Scenario 2), any GoI would support Pakistan as much as possible in whichever way required.
At best if GoI feels opportunistic, BJP may make some demands in return for support, Congress may or may not. But regardless, both will support the legitimate Govt of Pakistan to prevent a complete State collapse which allows nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists.

Essentially our best and only aspiration would be to keep Pakistani Punjab and Sindh safer. Because these areas are contiguous to India. Beyond Indus, India wont care much.

 

[HariPrasad]

I am referring to the scenario where militants essentially take over spaces of Pakistan much like they did in Iraq. People from those affected regions may flee wherever they can. Will India cooperate with Pakistan in such a scenario

I wish that it never happen. However, whenever India has try to build a good relation with Pakistan, Pakistani army has always sabotaged the peace initiative. Now there is almost a consensus in Indian political and military circle that Pakistan army and ISI will never allow the relations to improve. All our peace initiative are going to remain superficial. We have to be prepared for back stabbing. In this sort of scenario, Whether India will help or not will purely. depend on the evaluation plus and minus of helping the Pakistan and will not be out of any friendship (My guise) .

history has proven that Pakistan is the entry point for India's invasion

It was a different scenario then when foreign Invader usd to come via Hindukush. In modern age people will attack by sky and not via Hindukush.

 

[B+ Dracula]

Brig Sahab want Pakistan to fight for India for FREE......O God Never...Ever
America Paid us BILLIONS $ in Soviet Era to fight their War, and Brig Sahab by Blackmailing Pakistan want us to FIGHT FOR FREE
Severe Banya mentality........NEVER NEVER NEVER

 

[Screambowl]

the more India talks about it , more it will get indulged. Just ignore it in public forums and leave that to security forces.