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You mean to say that was a typo or you dont want to explain???sorry i cannot.....
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You mean to say that was a typo or you dont want to explain???sorry i cannot.....
barring Pakistan.......all other major asians nations such as India,China and Russia are in a very gud position to beat Italy in a conventional warPakistan&India or any other Asian, Far Asian nation can't really fight a conventional war with Italy. Pakistani military is not able to move forces to Italy, even if had, no logistics, she can use nukes (I'm not sure wheater the missiles have that range), but nuking Italy comes with consequences. Italian Navy has bluewater capabilities, their air force can also go there. But again South Asia will be their tombs as they'll have no logistical support and Pakistani military would defeat them there. Today's world is run by alliances. if the aggressor is not them, or one of them go against each other, ranking isn't really important for NATO countries. Ex: I don't even know the ranking of Latvia and Lithuania, but they are NATO members whom called an urgent meeting regarding their security, in North Atlantic Council, tomorrow. See it's really not much important. Also Pakistan has nuclear bombs, I'm sure our friends will not hesitate to use them if it was the last option.
look man, millitary machine is like iron if you don't use it time by time it will get rust ....there is no sure short measurement with which we can say who is number 1 2 3 etc.....but we can have an idea given the recent past millitary history of that country, pakistan has been in war for last 40 years and has hell lot of strategy experience now compared to italy...weapons, surely italy has superior weapon.....intelligence....have you ever heard of italian intelligence, but surely of ISI....war gives you experience of how to survive....with the passage of time italian and most of the eurpoe,s millitary is becoming Mummy daddy millitary.......they have not expoerienced war, their population is not ready for war...they do not support war... on the other hand pakistani population gives finger to every one continiously.You mean to say that was a typo or you dont want to explain???
So Afghanistan should be in top 10,if we go by your logic.???look man, millitary machine is like iron if you don't use it time by time it will get rust ....there is no sure short measurement with which we can say who is number 1 2 3 etc.....but we can have an idea given the recent past millitary history of that country, pakistan has been in war for last 40 years and has hell lot of strategy experience now compared to italy...weapons, surely italy has superior weapon.....intelligence....have you ever heard of italian intelligence, but surely of ISI....war gives you experience of how to survive....with the passage of time italian and most of the eurpoe,s millitary is becoming Mummy daddy millitary.......they have not expoerienced war, their population is not ready for war...they do not support war... on the other hand pakistani population gives finger to every one continiously..........when you come to most powerfulll militaries of the world with fighting capabilities then the scenerio changes dramatically, but when you take just weapons into accout then you get this list.....once again we cannot say who is supperior, untill we are actually in war....so this list is absolute bullshit except top 3.
this list is about indiviual capabilities....not about fighting with alliance.....if we consider that then, india will go 7 or 8 steps down and pakistan may come 3 or 4 steps up but still below to india.......and i have given the scenario of pak and italy comparison alone....nobody elsePakistan&India or any other Asian, Far Asian nation can't really fight a conventional war with Italy. Pakistani military is not able to move forces to Italy, even if had, no logistics, she can use nukes (I'm not sure wheater the missiles have that range), but nuking Italy comes with consequences. Italian Navy has bluewater capabilities, their air force can also go there. But again South Asia will be their tombs as they'll have no logistical support and Pakistani military would defeat them there. Today's world is run by alliances. if the aggressor is not them, or one of them go against each other, ranking isn't really important for NATO countries. Ex: I don't even know the ranking of Latvia and Lithuania, but they are NATO members whom called an urgent meeting regarding their security, in North Atlantic Council, tomorrow. See it's really not much important. Also Pakistan has nuclear bombs, I'm sure our friends will not hesitate to use them if it was the last option.
lol,so you cant accept the strength of India's military and ranking.this list is about indiviual capabilities....not about fighting with alliance.....if we consider that then, india will go 7 or 8 steps down and pakistan may come 3 or 4 steps up but still below to india.......and i have given the scenario of pak and italy comparison alone....nobody else
every nation on earth has an army, there is a difference between a country ready for war and a country,s population ready for war......a country loses war when it,s population stops supporting it......and population ready for war is just one factor of many others....it does not make one,s millitary superior...it,s just a millitary backing for long term war.....that,s it.... because if your population does not support you, you cannot fight a long time war...So Afghanistan should be in top 10,if we go by your logic.???
And your logic about population not ready for war is all bullshit to say the least,Thats why Nations have something called army.
go play some where else boy, i was talking about pak and italy, and you took india in it..... i said india will be down because allainces changes everything.....the whole scene but it seems that you cannot understand it.....so best of luck to you being a 4th number.loxlol,so you cant accept the strength of India's military and ranking.
At worst India should be at 8th position and at best Pakistan should be at 13 position.
If you think otherwise then explain me.
Now dont start giving excuses of civil war in Pakistan,here we are talking of military's strength and not overpowering another country.
Population supporting or not has nothing to do with a war and ther support can be easily gained by propoganda and media.every nation on earth has an army, there is a difference between a country ready for war and a country,s population ready for war......a country loses war when it,s population stops supporting it......and population ready for war is just one factor of many others....it does not make one,s millitary superior...it,s just a millitary backing for long term war.....that,s it.... because if your population does not support you, you cannot fight a long time war...
barring Pakistan.......all other major asians nations such as India,China and Russia are in a very gud position to beat Italy in a conventional war
You have summed it pretty well.No they're not. Russia, India, China even Indonesia can strike Italy with air assets. But do you really believe that they could make it back to home after the strike? Or NATO&US would allow and Indian surface combatant to pass through Suez Canal if the fleet aims to attack a European country? How many "hours" can a country from Asia (expect for China and Russia) last a war in Medditearian against Italy even without NATO assistance? The same for Italy, if they had gone to Asia, so does Turkey. It's not because how mighty they are. It's just that Asian (not RF&PRC) countries are not capable of conducting combat operations in Meddittearian, getting beaten by geographics. No logistics, no victory. That's the backbone of overseas operations worldwide.
o dear, what you was wating above was not US diplomatic cables....it was a neutral source, perhaps a think tank...
look man, millitary machine is like iron if you don't use it time by time it will get rust ....there is no sure short measurement with which we can say who is number 1 2 3 etc.....but we can have an idea given the recent past millitary history of that country, pakistan has been in war for last 40 years and has hell lot of strategy experience now compared to italy...weapons, surely italy has superior weapon.....intelligence....have you ever heard of italian intelligence, but surely of ISI....war gives you experience of how to survive....with the passage of time italian and most of the eurpoe,s millitary is becoming Mummy daddy millitary.......they have not expoerienced war, their population is not ready for war...they do not support war... on the other hand pakistani population gives finger to every one continiously..........when you come to most powerfulll militaries of the world with fighting capabilities then the scenerio changes dramatically, but when you take just weapons into accout then you get this list.....once again we cannot say who is supperior, untill we are actually in war....so this list is absolute bullshit except top 3.
every nation on earth has an army, there is a difference between a country ready for war and a country,s population ready for war......a country loses war when it,s population stops supporting it......and population ready for war is just one factor of many others....it does not make one,s millitary superior...it,s just a millitary backing for long term war.....that,s it.... because if your population does not support you, you cannot fight a long time war...
go play some where else boy, i was talking about pak and italy, and you took india in it..... i said india will be down because allainces changes everything.....the whole scene but it seems that you cannot understand it.....so best of luck to you being a 4th number.lox
No they're not. Russia, India, China even Indonesia can strike Italy with air assets. But do you really believe that they could make it back to home after the strike? Or NATO&US would allow and Indian surface combatant to pass through Suez Canal if the fleet aims to attack a European country? How many "hours" can a country from Asia (expect for China and Russia) last a war in Medditearian against Italy even without NATO assistance? The same for Italy, if they had gone to Asia, so does Turkey. It's not because how mighty they are. It's just that Asian (not RF&PRC) countries are not capable of conducting combat operations in Meddittearian, getting beaten by geographics. No logistics, no victory. That's the backbone of overseas operations worldwide.
look man, millitary machine is like iron if you don't use it time by time it will get rust ....there is no sure short measurement with which we can say who is number 1 2 3 etc.....but we can have an idea given the recent past millitary history of that country, pakistan has been in war for last 40 years and has hell lot of strategy experience now compared to italy...weapons, surely italy has superior weapon.....intelligence....have you ever heard of italian intelligence, but surely of ISI....war gives you experience of how to survive....with the passage of time italian and most of the eurpoe,s millitary is becoming Mummy daddy millitary.......they have not expoerienced war, their population is not ready for war...they do not support war... on the other hand pakistani population gives finger to every one continiously..........when you come to most powerfulll militaries of the world with fighting capabilities then the scenerio changes dramatically, but when you take just weapons into accout then you get this list.....once again we cannot say who is supperior, untill we are actually in war....so this list is absolute bullshit except top 3.