Given a chance, Kashmiris would like to break away: CIA

[Always Neutral]

Taking cheap shots are we?

Come On Mr MM, you must be as disappointed as me for being rejected as citizens of the most democratic DIMENSIONATED place in the world ? Come have pint with me in the worlds greatest Dictatorship called UK second to North Korea.

 

[Marathaman]

Come On Mr MM, you must be as disappointed as me for being rejected as citizens of the most democratic DIMENSIONATED place in the world ? Come have pint with me in the worlds greatest Dictatorship called UK second to North Korea.

Yeah...it is very disappointing....especially since I apparently don't even have the right religion for it...

Its amazing what people can convince themselves to believe....

 

[haviZsultan]

Well the Pathans I am speaking about are muslims from Gujarat whom you did not help to escape but who played for India and cost Pakistan the world cup and me a lot of money.

Escape who? Well were Hindu exteremists or some feared gangsters after them?

Oh i see what you're talking about! Well, until they want to escape we can't just pull them out of India and bring them to Pakistan... . Why would Irfan Pathan and his family want to escape when he has a good enough career and good life? I am talking about those muslims who are oppressed in India and of their wish to escape to Pakistan! If Pathan ever reveals that he is unhappy in India then we will readily take him in... Happy?

Strange you thought it fit to bring in Irfan Pathan into the conversation... Lost you money too? No that is'nt true! You lost money because you are living in a dictatorship... the governement snatches what you earn...

 

[haviZsultan]

Yeah...it is very disappointing....especially since I apparently don't even have the right religion for it...

Its amazing what people can convince themselves to believe....

It does'nt matter what your religion is... There are Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Bhuddists all living peacefully... well you're talking like you really want to come! Are you oppressed in India too?

I am sure you are dissappointed... but what if you have a disease and spread it here too!

 

[Marathaman]

It does'nt matter what your religion is... There are Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Bhuddists all living peacefully... well you're talking like you really want to come! Are you oppressed in India too?

I am sure you are dissappointed... but what if you have a disease and spread it here too!

I'd love to come man...I'm tired of being oppressed by Hindus extremists for being atheist...what with Pakistan being the safe haven for all oppressed people of the world and all..the shining beacon of tolerance in a world full of prejudice....

 

[haviZsultan]

I'd love to come man...I'm tired of being oppressed by Hindus extremists for being atheist...what with Pakistan being the safe haven for all oppressed people of the world and all..the shining beacon of tolerance in a world full of prejudice....

Sure man you're always welcome to come! Yes indeed! We are an ever-tolerent society you see! Come over! No problem! We will give you a Pakistani passport... Ever seen Harcharan Singh with all those ladies from the army huddled around him? Thats how we treat minorities...

lol... Well those in India who do come to Pakistan do see it that way! They see Pakistan as their only hope in a cold, unkind world... their situation would not be such if India had treated them as equals and protected them from injustice and oppression... Anyway... if these people continue seeing Pakistan as a safe-haven it is India that is losing out!

 

[Shivakumar]

Escape who? Well were Hindu exteremists or some feared gangsters after them?

Oh i see what you're talking about! Well, until they want to escape we can't just pull them out of India and bring them to Pakistan... . Why would Irfan Pathan and his family want to escape when he has a good enough career and good life? I am talking about those muslims who are oppressed in India and of their wish to escape to Pakistan! If Pathan ever reveals that he is unhappy in India then we will readily take him in... Happy?

Strange you thought it fit to bring in Irfan Pathan into the conversation... Lost you money too? No that is'nt true! You lost money because you are living in a dictatorship... the governement snatches what you earn...

You have said that all minorities are unhappy with India. Then how come the Pathan is happy in evil Hindu India? Then who are those oppressed muslims? Can you give their names?

 

[haviZsultan]

You have said that all minorities are unhappy with India. Then how come the Pathan is happy in evil Hindu India? Then who are those oppressed muslims? Can you give their names?

Woah, "evil hindu India"? Is that how you guys refer to India? Now I never said Evil Hindu India... so you're trying to tell me that you want me to refer to India by that name... Salim says India is a "jungle of man-eating tigers" and now you are telling me "India is evil hindu India"? Are you implying that George Bush forgot to add India to the axis of evil???

Well did'nt Sania Mirza say that there was bias by the selectors and stuff when she first started tennis? Actually you're right... muslims in India do not speak openly about their discontention and the discrimination they face! Just ask organizations that help move muslims in India to Pakistan about who the oppressed muslims are... my family and freinds would be an example of oppressed muslims in India because they are sick of the constant bullying and discrimination they recieve from "Evil Hindu India"...

Unfortunately, there would be too many to mention... Well, what about Mohammed Akbar the dude who came to Pakistan and started a business in Pakistan and is living well in Lahore after shifting from India in 2004 because of your hatred and biases?

I dunno why you want to deny all this... What do you gain by denying this exept personal satisfaction??? You know its true anyway...

 

[Marathaman]

Woah, "evil hindu India"? Is that how you guys refer to India? Now I never said Evil Hindu India... so you're trying to tell me that you want me to refer to India by that name... Salim says India is a "jungle of man-eating tigers" and now you are telling me "India is evil hindu India"? Are you implying that George Bush forgot to add India to the axis of evil???

Well did'nt Sania Mirza say that there was bias by the selectors and stuff when she first started tennis? Actually you're right... muslims in India do not speak openly about their discontention and the discrimination they face! Just ask organizations that help move muslims in India to Pakistan about who the oppressed muslims are... my family and freinds would be an example of oppressed muslims in India because they are sick of the constant bullying and discrimination they recieve from "Evil Hindu India"...

Unfortunately, there would be too many to mention... Well, what about Mohammed Akbar the dude who came to Pakistan and started a business in Pakistan and is living well in Lahore after shifting from India in 2004 because of your hatred and biases?

I dunno why you want to deny all this... What do you gain by denying this exept personal satisfaction??? You know its true anyway...

Dimension yaar....take a break...we kno u have a big crush on Sania but still...control yaar control....

BTW...who is this Mohd. Akbar?

 

[Shivakumar]

Unfortunately, there would be too many to mention... Well, what about Mohammed Akbar the dude who came to Pakistan and started a business in Pakistan and is living well in Lahore after shifting from India in 2004 because of your hatred and biases?

Who is Mohamad Akbar? The world knows who the Pathan is? So, you have no proof for your claims that others can verify? Simply repeating one thing in your every post will not make it a truth. Why don't you come up with some neutral source to prove your claims?

 

[haviZsultan]

Who is Mohamad Akbar? The world knows who the Pathan is? So, you have no proof for your claims that others can verify? Simply repeating one thing in your every post will not make it a truth. Why don't you come up with some neutral source to prove your claims?

Thats the problem!... There aren't enough people reporting the sucess stories in Pakistan... even I did a search on internet and found nothing about Mohd Akbar... The Sufferers Witness helped him shift to Pakistan from IOK in 2004. He was first based in Karachi doing some small job as a guard, then a carpenter but then he shifted to Lahore and started a textile company again with the help of Sufferers Witness I guess it must be known as Mohammed Akbar textile mills or something... I'll have to have the records from these Organizations to speak to such an audiance who simply wants to deny...

Is'nt it well-known in India that some if not many muslims are discontent? Then why unnecessarily deny this fact?

I don't understand why you people have to be Khalifa's? Did you guys convert and become muslims yesterday or do you guys have muslim family in India that you waved goodbye to when you converted to your respective religions? If no then why deny it from the ones who do and know how these muslims feel? My family tells me about the discrimination and unequal treatment themselves! Now do you think they will go around on the streets saying all this? Will they go around on the streets saying that you are dscriminating against them and treating them badly? Ofcourse not!

If you actually do accept the fact that muslims are often treated unfairly and there is discrimination against them then you should also accept that there are people who do shift to Pakistan out of these unhappy muslims because they either feel that the Indian government is ignoring them and does'nt care about them or because the police and civil services aren't protecting them from aggression!

 

[Marathaman]

What sort of discrimination? Can you elaborate?

 

[haviZsultan]

Dimension yaar....take a break...we kno u have a big crush on Sania but still...control yaar control....

BTW...who is this Mohd. Akbar?

I do? You're talking like you're about to send her to me as a token of goodwill... do you usually present gifts like those? Do you have harems in India?

 

[Shivakumar]

Again you come up with a story without any proof. How should we believe it. If there are lots of muslims moving to Pakistan as you said, then post some proof from neutral sources.

What are the discriminations does the muslims suffer here?

Oh! No muslims are allowed to be prime minister or president by the constitution.

 

[Shivakumar]

I do? You're talking like you're about to send her to me as a token of goodwill... do you usually present gifts like those? Do you have harems in India?

Now you want Sania too?! Forget it. You get neither Kashmir nor Sania. We have no idea of sending her to hell.

Thank God. Sania is not a Pakistani. If she were a Pakistani, she would have been beheaded or bombed for wearing a short skirt while playing tennis. Wow! Pakistan is a safe haven for muslims.