Ghaher 313 fighter

[The SC]

Thats not intake but red "chek" band.

If u had half of brain u would realize:

1) That intake cant be behind a compressor.
2) That pin size intake is joke.
3) That whole this "plane" is joke.

Those are intakes (air ducts), you like it or not.
Miss brainless, the Qaher-313 has too intakes and too air ducts (air intakes too).

 

[500]

I still cant understand why a Subsonic airplane which its main operation would be CAS , need Large intake or high attack angle .

by the way its clear that the mockup is a rushed work and a little on shitty side , but the concept is proven for a Subsonic jet. but f you want break mach 1 then the situation will be a little tricky

This from Bird of Pray article in Wiki . as you see the design is stable enough not to need computer to fly

For subsonic its wing has too small wingspan and unnecessary high sweep and width.

Also such a small plane could not carry any serious weapons internally.

And stealth shape of this plane is wrong too anyway.

Simple F-5 is better for CAS thanks to 2 engine configuration.

 

[The SC]

F-5E
Length: 47 ft 4¾ in (14.45 m)
Wingspan: 26 ft 8 in (8.13 m)

F-20
Length: 47 ft 4 in (14.4 m)
Wingspan: 27 ft 11.9 in / 8.53 m; with wingtip missiles (26 ft 8 in/ 8.13 m; without wingtip missiles)

Seaqueh
Length: 15.89 m
Wingspan: 8.13 m

YF-17A
Length: 56 ft 0 in (17.0 m)
Wingspan: 35 ft 0 in (10.5 m)

F-18C/D
Length: 56 ft (17.1 m)
Wingspan: 40 ft (12.3 m)

F-35A/B/C
Length 51.4 ft (15.7 m) 51.3 ft (15.6 m) 51.5 ft (15.7 m)
Wingspan35 ft (10.7 m)35 ft (10.7 m) 43 ft (13.1 m)

F-22A
Length: 62 ft 1 in (18.90 m)
Wingspan: 44 ft 6 in (13.56 m)

Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi says Iran’s new domestically-designed and developed fighter jet, Qaher-313 (Conqueror-313), is ‘super advanced’ and capable of ‘evading radars.’


Speaking on the sidelines of its unveiling ceremony on Saturday, Vahidi said the aircraft had a “very low radar cross section” and was capable of conducting operations at low altitudes.

The Iranian defense minister noted that highly-advanced materials and electro-ionic systems had been used in the structure of Qaher-313, adding that the aircraft was capable of carrying advanced armaments.
Qaher-313 can take off and land on short runways and it has easy maintenance, Vahidi said.

The newly-unveiled Iranian military aircraft is said to be similar to the US-built F/A-18, although its appearance is like F-5E/F Tiger II.

The new single-seat bomber has been manufactured based on state-of-the-art technologies and modern defense achievements.

In recent years, Iran has made great achievements in its defense sector and gained self-sufficiency in essential military hardware and defense systems.

Azarakhsh (Lightning) is Iran’s first domestically-manufactured combat jet.

Saeqeh (Thunderbolt) fighter jet is a follow-up aircraft, derived from Azarakhsh. Iran unveiled its first squadron of Saeqeh fighter bombers in an air show in September 2010.

PressTV - Iran’s super advanced Qaher-313 can evade radars: Defense minister

Its dimensions should be in between those of the F-5E, F-20, and Seaqueh. IMO, since Iran is not into the habit of releasing technical details about its systems.

 

[rmi5]

For subsonic its wing has too small wingspan and unnecessary high sweep and width.

Also such a small plane could not carry any serious weapons internally.

And stealth shape of this plane is wrong too anyway.

Simple F-5 is better for CAS thanks to 2 engine configuration.

That's right. Qaher has an awful design. It is too fat, so it would have a lot of drag, and huge fuel consumption. based on it's small size, it cannot carry much fuel either. so it's range would be very limited. wing span of Qaher is too small as well. so, it cannot have good turns and would lose any dogfights, as well. It's obviously not suitable for CAS either. again it's wing span is very small, it cannot carry much weapon, ... to understand it more easily, a good CAS aircraft is something like A-10, while the design of Qaher is completely opposite to aircrafts like A-10. In sum, this design is not useful for any mission, including air to air combats, CAS, ...

 

[Falcon29]

That's right. Qaher has an awful design. It is too fat, so it would have a lot of drag, and huge fuel consumption. based on it's small size, it cannot carry much fuel either. so it's range would be very limited. wing span of Qaher is too small as well. so, it cannot have good turns and would lose any dogfights, as well. It's obviously not suitable for CAS either. again it's wing span is very small, it cannot carry much weapon, ... to understand it more easily, a good CAS aircraft is something like A-10, while the design of Qaher is completely opposite to aircrafts like A-10. In sum, this design is not useful for any mission, including air to air combats, CAS, ...

I'm sure the real size is larger than mockup.

 

[rmi5]

I'm sure the real size is larger than mockup.

So? it means that it would be fatter, then more drag, more fuel consumption, and then the range would be limited again. Size is definitely one of its problems, but not the only problem.

 

[Hack-Hook]

That's right. Qaher has an awful design. It is too fat, so it would have a lot of drag, and huge fuel consumption. based on it's small size, it cannot carry much fuel either. so it's range would be very limited. wing span of Qaher is too small as well. so, it cannot have good turns and would lose any dogfights, as well. It's obviously not suitable for CAS either. again it's wing span is very small, it cannot carry much weapon, ... to understand it more easily, a good CAS aircraft is something like A-10, while the design of Qaher is completely opposite to aircrafts like A-10. In sum, this design is not useful for any mission, including air to air combats, CAS, ...

a shark also is fat and I assure you it don't have so Mich drag
And not all aircrafts in that role looks like a-10

 

[500]

I'm sure the real size is larger than mockup.

If u increase size of a plane 2 times then weight increases 8 times, wing area only 4 times and wingspan only 2 times. Thus bigger planes needs even bigger wings.

Look at subsonic CAS aircaft wings:

Now look at Qaher-313:

Its the opposite to the above.

 

[atatwolf]

You can't judge from a mockup... You don't think patience is the only option!?

If it is a mock up what is it doing in the airport

A year ago all you Iranians were spewing fire out of your behinds when somebody told you it was a fake jet.

Now when you are seeing everybody is making fun of you, you say it is a mockup...... LOL

Also Iran official statements said it was final product. Not a mockup. Just be sincere for once.

Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi says Iran’s new domestically-designed and developed fighter jet, Qaher-313 (Conqueror-313), is ‘super advanced’ and capable of ‘evading radars.’

Past tense.

Iranians on this forum also said it was final.

Now they changed their mind and making stuff up it is just a mockup. NO, it is the final product.

Also there are huge flaws with design and structure. Even if you find an engine, it will never fly.

Garmin navigation. You can buy that off ebay

And look at the sign "danger" hahaahahahaahaha

 

[Irfan Baloch]

If it is a mock up what is it doing in the airport


Iranians on this forum also said it was final.

Now they changed their mind and making stuff up it is just a mockup. NO, it is the final product.

Also there are huge flaws with design and structure. Even if you find an engine, it will never fly.

Garmin navigation. You can buy that off ebay

And look at the sign "danger" hahaahahahaahaha

look at the "dangerous" finishing along the edges

looks like the glue is already giving up under the weight of the Ayatollah's spiritual power

If u increase size of a plane 2 times then weight increases 8 times, wing area only 4 times and wingspan only 2 times. Thus bigger planes needs even bigger wings.

Its the opposite to the above.

of course when it runs on mind control and will power (bull shiite)

 

[The SC]

Let say this was the mock up of the real thing. And it is not intended for exports but rather for very specific missions around the Area., They have decided that there is no need for too many sophisticated avionics, since the missions will require total silence, hence the most practical and cheapest complementary avionics were added for their lower electronic emissions.
The rest of it is still sound too, like the composite materials for the airframe, and the air-ducts on the top back to cool down the engine as stealthy features. The design has proven to be sound to fly, and very efficient at that.

 

[The SC]

If it is a mock up what is it doing in the airport

Look at the proportions with humans and the truck !?

This is an F-18 with a closer look

Or the F-5

 

[giger]

why you think Iranians should use your design standards because you are high tech !
are you high tech ? then if you are , what are you searching for ? something new in a third world country's industry

Perhaps if there where not an idiot like hitler you were flying with balloons by thanks to german industry you have jet engines

 

[applesauce]

it seems you still cant read , its my answer to the a query about the issue


then you come and claimed this

which was wrong at the time of retiring the airplane we were not in the market for spare , as we had our reverse engineering program on the plane and even we show the restored planes that even if we bought all spare of USA army we could not restore those planes as our F14-A have parts that your F14-D lacks

iran cannot officially be "in the market" for f-14 parts as that is not legal according to US law

however it is proven that iran tried to get a hold of f-14 parts even before the planes were retired in the US as shown by the articles, this continued to happen after the planes were retired, this concern plays a major part in the decision to shred the jets. which is what im saying, and yes we all know iran has manage to keep the plane working and some part and pieces must have been sourced domestically, i never diagreed with that.

 

[Hack-Hook]

iran cannot officially be "in the market" for f-14 parts as that is not legal according to US law

however it is proven that iran tried to get a hold of f-14 parts even before the planes were retired in the US as shown by the articles, this continued to happen after the planes were retired, this concern plays a major part in the decision to shred the jets. which is what im saying, and yes we all know iran has manage to keep the plane working and some part and pieces must have been sourced domestically, i never diagreed with that.

no evidence of that only your speculation .
and let me correct you the sanction barred USA individuals sell those things to Iran by definition it cant stop Iran trying to acquire them if they want and even by that according to your articles these incident belong to the times before retirement of the planes. so the shredding was due to the fact that some senators feared that Iran might seek those parts not due to the fact that Iran tried to acquire them .