Germany pulls out from Incirlik

[Trango Towers]

Germany would be the new superpower of the 21st century g.

yes and sri lanka could be then next india

 

[That Guy]

EU wont be around in the long term?what a dream. that wont happen.

We're already seeing fractures within the EU, and demands by even pro-EU parties for major reforms. Take Emmanuel Macron, he's pro-EU, but even he has promised his people that he'll demand the EU change a number of its policies.

Nationalism is on the rise in a number of EU nations, border control and immigration have become a hot topic, and with the recent terror attacks, that sentiment is only going to go up.

I honestly think, if the EU is to survive, it must decentralize some of its powers. It must become a mainly economic union, instead of a political one, that means the EU parliament must either be dissolved, or reformed.

yes and sri lanka could be then next india

Actually, Germany has a really good chance of becoming a future super power. Their economy is not only strong, but making major strides, and Germany already dominates Europe, both economically and politically. With the recent cooling of relations with the US, which has led to Germany rethinking its defense and trade policies, Germany could end up as the sole continental power left in Europe, with the UK, France and Italy acting as nothing more than opposition.

Germany is already being called the de facto free world leader, since Trump came to power, ruining the US's relations left and right.

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

yes and sri lanka could be then next india

you will laugh now but wait until Germany integrates Europe and form a continental military. you will wake up one day having to go to a German language course.

I honestly think, if the EU is to survive, it must decentralize some of its powers. It must become a mainly economic union, instead of a political one, that means the EU parliament must either be dissolved, or reformed.

NO!! United States of Europe is the future.

 

[Timur]

you will laugh now but wait until Germany integrates Europe and form a continental military. you will wake up one day having to go to a German language course.


NO!! United States of Europe is the future.

you mean United States of Germany.. they prepare themselves for that role, they made nationalism strong in germany again...in my youth it was almost impossible to say that you are nationalist or just waving the germany flag.. now they turn themselves in that what they denied 25 years ago..

"never again", "germany will never make or participate in an offensive war.." I laughed in the past now I laugh again and I also see their future crystal clear..

Actually, Germany has a really good chance of becoming a future super power

future super power.. yes an economy power but not military power.. the europeans will never forget what the germans did.. and they will never want germany in that position again..

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

future super power.. yes an economy power but not military power.. the europeans will never forget what the germans did.. and they will never want germany in that position again..

They are not going to have any choice. Germany became the main economic force without anyone noticing. Now it calls the shots in EU and thanks to Donald Duck it will also be the military power in EU because without US, Europe will have nowhere to look for security but Germany. It will happen quietly step by step. You will go to sleep one day and find out that Germany has become the superpower when you wake up.

you mean United States of Germany.. they prepare themselves for that role, they made nationalism strong in germany again...in my youth it was almost impossible to say that you are nationalist or just waving the germany flag.. now they turn themselves in that what they denied 25 years ago..

"never again", "germany will never make or participate in an offensive war.." I laughed in the past now I laugh again and I also see their future crystal clear..

Same goes to Japan. I would never have supported anyone other than US to maintain the rule based global order but looking at them ******* shit up and electing some incompetent orange baboon shows that they are not reliable. At least Germans keep some maturity even at the worst times.

 

[Bismarck]

What about you(Germany)?
Are you fighting ISIS or Turks?


Hmmmmm..... interesting news, will be interesting to see if relations will improve politically between both sides.

You don't understand my point. To be clear: fighting pkk does not mean fighting any ethics like Kurds. Same goes for daesh. Fighting daesh does not mean fighting arabs.

About your question. We don't fight daesh really. It's more gesture of solidarity with France. We are more obsessed with Turkey than anything else now.

If you accept Germany is part of nato then why should Turkey block Germany politicians visiting troops in Turkey?

Yes main issue are PKK and US support for PYD.

Report me?did u volunteer to be pdf police? [emoji14] Relax bro.

Visiting of Bundeswehr soldier are irrelevant. Just a political show. We have a military commissioner who is responsible for those soldiers.

A funny thing is, even Claudia Roth, a member of left party "Die Grünen" wants to visit our soldiers in Turkey. There is nothing more than Bundeswehr which are hated by "Die Grünen".

Btw, our mission, reconnaissance by Tornados is absolutely worse irrelevant.

 

[xenon54 out]

A funny thing is, even Claudia Roth,

She knew she would be the last German to be allowed into Incirlik.

 

[That Guy]

future super power.. yes an economy power but not military power.. the europeans will never forget what the germans did.. and they will never want germany in that position again..

They may not have a choice, but luckily for them, economic power is going to be the main way that future super powers are made.

NO!! United States of Europe is the future.

Good luck convincing sovereign countries to give up that sovereignty.

 

[925boy]

As you lay your bed, so you lie in it. Turkey has chosen to "lie" with NATO....so Turkey has to accept everything that comes with such sensitive intimate relationships. Is Turkey really ready to split with NATO? My gut tells me no....and NATO/US probably knows that.

 

[-SINAN-]

.so Turkey has to accept everything

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

They may not have a choice, but luckily for them, economic power is going to be the main way that future super powers are made.


Good luck convincing sovereign countries to give up that sovereignty.

Why do you have 2 conflicting opinions in one post? You answered your own question. Big fish eat the little fish. They don't have a choice! Deal with it.

 

[That Guy]

Why do you have 2 conflicting opinions in one post? You answered your own question. Big fish eat the little fish. They don't have a choice! Deal with it.

They're not mutually exclusive. I honestly don't believe there is a future for the current version of the EU, but I also believe that Germany will dominate Europe. Europe =/= EU.

What is likely going to happen is, once the EU either becomes irrelevant, or dissolves, individual European nations will directly sign economic and trade deals with Germany, giving Germany a great amount of influence in Europe.

I hope that explains my view. Outwardly, it may seem contradictory, but in context, it is perfectly rational.

 

[Timur]

Claudia Roth,

that terrorist turkhating woman should not be able to enter turkey.. she is one of the worst.. crying in diyarbakir this is kurdistans capital and participating in gezi terrorist operations in istanbul harming our country.. letting her in is an its an act of betrayal in my eyes...

 

[Targon]

that terrorist turkhating woman should not be able to enter turkey.. she is one of the worst.. crying in diyarbakir this is kurdistans capital and participating in gezi terrorist operations in istanbul harming our country.. letting her in is an its an act of betrayal in my eyes...

Keep calling half of the country terrorist. Best policy ever. You can be sure that you are uniting our people with your views.

 

[Adıvar]