Germany pulls out from Incirlik

[tesla]

adios amigos

 

[925boy]

Are you (US) fighting ISIS or Arabs?

Imo US fights ISIS when it is not compliant...but when isis complies then US leaves them alone and also ignores GCC support for them also. US fights non compliant arab regimes too. Whats your point though?

 

[925boy]

So are the rumors that Turkiye is preparing to get out of NATO true?

- Turkiye requesting SCO membership
- Turkiye repairing its relations with Russia and procuring S-400s
- Turkiye opposing Saudi led Islamic Military Alliance
- Saudis cancelling the $2 billion warships deal with Turkiye
- Turkiye kicking out US, UK and Germany out of NATO bases in Turkiye

Turkey is just behaving like big kid ehose a brat when he doesnt get what he wants.

 

[mike2000 is back]

So are the rumors that Turkiye is preparing to get out of NATO true?

- Turkiye requesting SCO membership
- Turkiye repairing its relations with Russia and procuring S-400s
- Turkiye opposing Saudi led Islamic Military Alliance
- Saudis cancelling the $2 billion warships deal with Turkiye
- Turkiye kicking out US, UK and Germany out of NATO bases in Turkiye

LOL Where do you get your infos?

 

[tesla]

Turkey is just behaving like big kid ehose a brat when he doesnt get what he wants.

nato is a joke organization which everybody fighting eachother lol

 

[mike2000 is back]

Turkey is just behaving like big kid ehose a brat when he doesnt get what he wants.

No need to insult a country as a whole because they took an action that some of us might not like. At the end of the day it's a about strategic interests and diplomacy.

Yes main issue are PKK and US support for PYD.

As I said, it's all about strategic interests, be it Turkey,U.S, Russia, U.K or any power for that matter. Nobody should be blamed here, each is only after their own selfish interest(which is normal in geo politics)

 

[OguzSenturk]

If you accept Germany is part of nato then why should Turkey block Germany politicians visiting troops in Turkey?

I didn't even talk about visiting issue, but the illogical position of the German troops in İncirlik base I think you didnt even read my comment you replied. Again; İncirlik is Turkish Army base, it is not a NATO base. It is up to us if we decide authorize one country to put their troops in our military base. If it was a NATO base, then NATO states wouldnt have to ask for permission.

Now, if you actually read my comment, any problem?

 

[StraightShooter]

LOL Where do you get your infos?

I can post links for each of my statements. Which one do you doubt?

 

[blondeturkish]

germany wasn't even doing a thing. they were there just to show of. i even heard majortiy of their hardwares had technical problems and couldn't do their job. and how on earth can you be so confident to not want to share inteligence with us? when you are operating in our airbase.i guess thats the German arrogance they used to talk about.

 

[StraightShooter]

Turkey is just behaving like big kid ehose a brat when he doesnt get what he wants.

Every country looks after its interests but what is interesting to me as an outsider to middle east is that a clear realignment is taking place.

Ottoman empire and later Turkiye were called "Sick man of Europe". But seems like Turkiye has been sick and tired of carrying this title and started looking for other options.

Leader of the Sunnis title has already been taken by the Saudis while Iran is the leader of the Shias hence Turkiye has no major role to play in the Islamic world. Hence they are looking east and trying join SCO. This means that they need to get closer to Russia and China and away from NATO & EU.

germany wasn't even doing a thing. they were there just to show of. i even heard majortiy of their hardwares had technical problems and couldn't do their job. and how on earth can you be so confident to not want to share inteligence with us? when you are operating in our airbase.i guess thats the German arrogance they used to talk about.

Does Turkish forces operate any German equipment?

 

[blondeturkish]

Every country looks after its interests but what is interesting to me as an outsider to middle east is that a clear realignment is taking place.

Ottoman empire and later Turkiye were called "Sick man of Europe". But seems like Turkiye has been sick and tired of carrying this title and started looking for other options.

Leader of the Sunnis title has already been taken by the Saudis while Iran is the leader of the Shias hence Turkiye has no major role to play in the Islamic world. Hence they are looking east and trying join SCO. This means that they need to get closer to Russia and China and away from NATO & EU.



Does Turkish forces operate any German equipment?

yes they do. why do you ask?

 

[StraightShooter]

yes they do. why do you ask?

I wanted to know which German equipment was bad and which were good.

 

[blondeturkish]

I wanted to know which German equipment was bad and which were good.

i didn't say german equipment were bad did i? what the German army suffers are lack of funding. they have a couple of aircraft in Incirlik, and all of them had technical problems one after the other.

 

[StraightShooter]

i didn't say german equipment were bad did i? what the German army suffers are lack of funding. they have a couple of aircraft in Incirlik, and all of them had technical problems one after the other.

No. My point was how will Turkiye rearm itself with non-NATO alternatives?

S-400s is just one part of the puzzle. Fighters, Ships, Subs, Tanks all need to be looked at before it could move away from NATO. This may take a decade to achieve.

 

[GOLDENEAGLE1]

Turkey asked german airforce to share those images made from their intelligence planes and they refused

Something fishy there, i wouldnt be surprised if they gather intelligence on turkish troops and pass it to pkk etc