Germany approves extradition of Iran diplomat over 'bomb plot'

[nahtanbob]

You are assuming these atrocities will only affect one generation. It doesn't work like that. Son learns from father. Sons seek revenge for their murdered families or fathers. When it starts it can go for ever. Look at your first nations. Why most of them are addicted and miserable? They used to be proud and hardworking before white people screwed them. Misery can run through generations, so can grudge and atrocity.

USA stopped weapons pipeline in 1988. If the Afghans are still fighting they are others who joined the party

 

[Yaseen1]

u.s is airlifting isis in afghanistan from Syria and iraq

USA stopped weapons pipeline in 1988. If the Afghans are still fighting they are others who joined the party

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

I don't know why the US should have given up an ally like Shah of Iran? most western wannabe with the plans to buy billions $ worth of weaponry from them a true buffer against soviet union (F-14 was sold to Iran to counter Soviet fighter jets, RF-4C to gather intelligence) by all those secret CIA projects in Iran from "Dark Gene" to "IBEX"? 5 AWACS were ordered to deliver , 70 more F14s , 160 F16s with training program, possible F15 purchases 4 Kidd-class destroyer and would list go on and on ... the true friend of israel (the only one) while the US was fighting in Afghanistan and just had lost Daoud Khan and entire Afghanistan ..
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And who says Saudi needed Iranian revolution to buy more weapons while they were doing it?
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And there were enough conflicts to guarantee free flow of weapons in this region:
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While there was risk to lose Iran to Soviet Union .. which meant access of it to Persian Guld, losing Afghanistan and Persian gulf ... whenever they wanted him he was there, in Zafar in Vietanam , in Afghanistan .. a good boy.

I don't know why people portray the Shah era as era of Khershaye mehraboon as if people were in paradise?

I didnt.

Khomeini secret contact with cia and us administration:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadeloupe_Conference

Believe me, politics is not that simple (black and white). Also interesting:
http://www.payvand.com/news/06/mar/1090.html

One thing we both agree, Shah had some wrong policies, but loved Iran from heart unlike khomeini.

 

[Tokhme khar]

The Shah failed because he treated his people as if they were some fucking Western European Secular folk.......lol......The arrogant out of touch with reality fool that he was totally forgot that most of the Iranian people are muslims! Shoving western neoliberal values down the throats of his humble nation produced a disaster! This also takes us to the other major issue that Mr Shah had was his total lack of legitimacy. Which his behavior aggravated! In the end he publicly apologized and quietly left because he knew he had been rejected by the masses.

P.S. Being wishy washy for the return of the monarchy in Iran has a snowballs chance in hell of ever returning in Iran. It ain't happening!

I didnt.

Khomeini secret contact with cia and us administration:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadeloupe_Conference

Believe me, politics is not that simple (black and white). Also interesting:
http://www.payvand.com/news/06/mar/1090.html

One thing we both agree, Shah had some wrong policies, but loved Iran from heart unlike khomeini.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

The Shah failed because he treated his people as if they were some fucking Western European Secular folk.......lol......The arrogant out of touch with reality fool that he was totally forgot that most of the Iranian people are muslims! Shoving western neoliberal values down the throats of his humble nation produced a disaster! This also takes us to the other major issue that Mr Shah had was his total lack of legitimacy. Which his behavior aggravated! In the end he publicly apologized and quietly left because he knew he had been rejected by the masses.

P.S. Being wishy washy for the return of the monarchy in Iran has a snowballs chance in hell of ever returning in Iran. It ain't happening!

Although shah was a practising shia muslim who visited mecca and Iran-loving nationalist in heart and although during his rule many many mosques were built, westernization policy was one of his biggest mistakes. He was naive in that regard.

We've our own culture, apart from what Islamists and pro-west folks and leftists (all of them globalist forces) try to shove down our throats. These anti-Iranian models are to be rejected because we've our own Iranian alternative. Monarchists can't be trusted and we don't need seyd shazde reza diba the arabophile traitor as king, we already have arabophile seyd ali as king and these kings will all eventually be rejected since they're barely Iranian in sense of ethnicity, how they act and how they feel.

All of the monarchists are either infiltrated or traitors including seyd shazde reza diba. Even shah would reject them if he was alive. For example shah hanged separatist soviet spy ghazi mohammad, however the so called monarchists are walking hand in hand with kdpi, komoleh. No to traitor descentants of pahlavi, no to descentants of traitor qajars, no to arabophile descendants of mo in Iranian governing bodies.

 

[Arminkh]

USA stopped weapons pipeline in 1988. If the Afghans are still fighting they are others who joined the party

Officially, yes they stopped it. Unofficially? God knows. By the way, they make money from sales of opium and now can buy their own arms.

 

[BATMAN]

You’re an idiot that’s why you can’t get it.

I insulted German filthy politicians who support terrorism in other countries.

But u insulted an entire army and country and families of dead Indian soldiers.

But... I'm targeted in Pakistan irrespective.... weather, i insult Indian army or not.
I didn't meant to hurt you but Indian army is indeed rapist and abusive army... they use gun to rape women and children, it's a fact.
India army itself fake killing of their own soldiers, don't feed them properly and use Muslims as human shields.
I thought its public knowledge and you know it.

Now Angela Merkel can be anyone, but this hand position suggest nothing. However it does suggest what you are!

 

[Tokhme khar]

Mate, no offense, but we ain't turning Zoroastrian either. You seem to be stuck in some sort of apocalyptic scenario. Don't know what your issues/ situation is.

P.S. Iran is now a muslim country for over a millennia! What part of this reality is difficult to understand? Dumping this identity is almost impossible. You are one of only handful of people on this dead end crusade. I understand Islam is struggling, and has been that way for the last 300 odd years, and its prospects look bad, but we ain't as yet walking out on it. If you believe we will walk out on Islam, then good luck to you!

Although shah was a practising shia muslim who visited mecca and Iran-loving nationalist in heart and although during his rule many many mosques were built, westernization policy was one of his biggest mistakes. He was naive in that regard.

We've our own culture, apart from what Islamists and pro-west folks and leftists (all of them globalist forces) try to shove down our throats. These anti-Iranian models are to be rejected because we've our own Iranian alternative. Monarchists can't be trusted and we don't need seyd shazde reza diba the arabophile traitor as king, we already have arabophile seyd ali as king and these kings will all eventually be rejected since they're barely Iranian in sense of ethnicity, how they act and how they feel.

All of the monarchists are either infiltrated or traitors including seyd shazde reza diba. Even shah would reject them if he was alive. For example shah hanged separatist soviet spy ghazi mohammad, however the so called monarchists are walking hand in hand with kdpi, komoleh. No to traitor descentants of pahlavi, no to descentants of traitor qajars, no to arabophile descendants of mo in Iranian governing bodies.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Mate, no offense, but we ain't turning Zoroastrian either. You seem to be stuck in some sort of apocalyptic scenario. Don't know what your issues/ situation is.

P.S. Iran is now a muslim country for over a millennia! What part of this reality is difficult to understand? Dumping this identity is almost impossible. You are one of only handful of people on this dead end crusade. I understand Islam is struggling, and has been that way for the last 300 odd years, and its prospects look bad, but we ain't as yet walking out on it. If you believe we will walk out on Islam, then good luck to you!

No offense at all mate, we ain't talking about suddenly turning back to zoroastrianism or whatever other religion. We're just talking about not shoving a certain religion into peoples throats. People should be free to chose their religion. If certain ideology/religion is constantly force fed to us, it will work the opposite.

Well said, last 1000 years Iran turned into a muslim majority country. we've reached the peak of islam inside Iran now with 98% being born as muslim. After the peak there will be the valley. And thanks to media and internet and education level, this will happen. It can be a long and slow proces, but it's already started. We saw this proces with religion (in this case christianity) in Europe.

We're nationalists, that's our "issue" and some don't like it. But we exist inside Iran and we don't comprpmis with islamists and communists as long as they don't compromis with us. They have their say in last 40 years. Islam has been very safe in Iran (not struggling) until internet and smartphones and flow of information became available for almost all Iranians. Major cultural change will not happen in short term, it can take 250 years. There is a start, there is a base, there is a movement, although blocked by pan-islamists, but the blockade will be defeated eventually.

About the political situation and economy in todays Iran, I'm 100% against revolution (chaos) and I'm 100% pro change/improvement from inside of the country by Iranians without any foreign interference.

My personal situation is very good (health, family, finance), everyday I enjoy life. I'm what we in persian language call "Irangara" and many are like me.

 

[Tokhme khar]

I won't and can't argue with you on your points.......but just keep in mind, we as nationalists have to support the republic. That is where it ends. All Iranians are nationalists. We won't exist if we ain't an empire.......our history is a testament to this. Mullah's are no different!

They will be thrown out if they deviate from this Pan-Persianism. Not that hard to see. Evidently (in that regard) they accomplished far more than the Shah or the MEK would've ever dream't off.

No offense at all mate, we ain't talking about suddenly turning back to zoroastrianism or whatever other religion. We're just talking about not shoving a certain religion into peoples throats. People should be free to chose their religion. If certain ideology/religion is constantly force fed to us, it will work the opposite.

Well said, last 1000 years Iran turned into a muslim majority country. we've reached the peak of islam inside Iran now with 98% being born as muslim. After the peak there will be the valley. And thanks to media and internet and education level, this will happen. It can be a long and slow proces, but it's already started. We saw this proces with religion (in this case christianity) in Europe.

We're nationalists, that's our "issue" and some don't like it. But we exist inside Iran and we don't comprpmis with islamists and communists as long as they don't compromis with us. They have their say in last 40 years. Islam has been very safe in Iran (not struggling) until internet and smartphones and flow of information became available for almost all Iranians. Major cultural change will not happen in short term, it can take 250 years. There is a start, there is a base, there is a movement, although blocked by pan-islamists, but the blockade will be defeated eventually.

About the political situation and economy in todays Iran, I'm 100% against revolution (chaos) and I'm 100% pro change/improvement from inside of the country by Iranians without any foreign interference.

My personal situation is very good (health, family, finance), everyday I enjoy life. I'm what we in persian language call "Irangara" and many are like me.

 

[WordsMatter]

Finally some justice... prosecute the terrorist and hang him. That's the fate these terrorists deserve.