German Navy Commander: We, India and Germany need Russia against China

[INS_Vikrant]

Engineer another Sino-Soviet split?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Oh,please,stop pretending that US government care about the people of other countries like cuban or uyghurs.You just don't,all you care is your own interest. US People don't even bother to put on masks to save your own people.

Please stop pretending a country like China cares about the people in other countries.

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Salaam

I don't know what is going on but I can't quite understand why Russia is treated as an enemy by the West when Russia isn't a serious contender for the position the USSR held i.e a counter to the West. China, on the other hand, is most certainly becoming not just a contender despite still not being fully at its peak.


It may be that the US wishes to influence the EU using the Russian threat since the EU hardly seems interested in 'containing' China or at least to the degree the US wants them to. Maybe the EU going it's own way is seen by the US as greater threat to their sphere than pushing Russia into the Chinese camp.

After all, if Russia and the EU were to reconcile, the biggest loser would be the US as it would lose much of its influence over the EU. In fact, an independent EU would be competitor of the US as opposed to a partner as it is.

I'm likely wrong but I feel it may be a part of it. How big a part? who knows.

 

[Globenim]

yeah,The people. Did US care about what cuban think and want when cuban missile crisis happened? Do US care about that guantanamo bay is actually belongs to caban,the people?

U.S. Americans (as if anybody expected that) didnt care on bit what the "Ukrainian" population thinks about having their politics being meddled with by the USA and minorities in Ukraines population (majority if you only look at East Ukraine before displacement began) being target by far right fascist political parties and neonazi groups funded, backed and trained by the U.S.A. who are targeting native Russian ethnic groups with discriminative laws like banning their native language or straight out targeting them physically, all just to stir up shit next to Russia and enable the installation of a U.S. loyal puppet regime over a neutral party.

We dont even need to extrapolate from other nations that have been abused by the U.S. like Cuba.

The usual mouthbreathers are just trying to deflect and carry water for the U.S. terror regime and parotting their gaslighting and revisionist propaganda to frame it like the U.S. terror regime isnt fully and onesidedly responsible for the escalations in Ukraine while peddling their usual projecting holier than you moral bullshit rethoric as if the U.S.A. out of all textbook villain states in the world ever cared about the wellbeing of foreign nations.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The US will never allow the integration between Russia and Europe.

They need to make Russia an enemy, so they have the excuse to keep controlling Europe like they did to Japan and South Korea.

If they cannot control Europe/Japan/South Korea like slaves, who can keep paying tribute to sustain their mighty dollar?

The dollar gonna collapse overnight without Europe/Japan/South Korea getting financially rip off by the US in perpetuity.

The principle of the US model is to enrich themselves by impoverishing others, and people need to see a broader picture of this.

@Beidou2020 @Stranagor @vostok

 

[Beidou2020]

The US will never allow the integration between Russia and Europe.

They need to make Russia an enemy, so they have the excuse to keep controlling Europe like they did to Japan and South Korea.

If they cannot control Europe/Japan/South Korea like slaves, who can keep paying tribute to sustain their mighty dollar?

The dollar gonna collapse overnight without Europe/Japan/South Korea getting financially rip off by the US in perpetuity.

The principle of the US model is to enrich themselves by impoverishing others, and people need to see a broader picture of this.

@Beidou2020 @Stranagor @vostok

This is why an all out war against the dollar should be a priority for the China-Russia-allies bloc.

You weaken the dollar’s hold over the world, you weaken their spending power on R&D, weapons, foreign aid, etc.

You need money to run an empire, lots of money. Dollar is empire money.

Digital yuan is the key to de-dollarisation.

 

[dBSPL]

This map shows the population density of Russia. In addition, instead of uploading too many maps related to logistics capabilities here, we can say that the density is parallel to this map.

The question is: Germany, France, etc., while the central forces of the EU approach this tension very cautiously, even the US president is commenting on the consequences of the possible invasion of Ukraine in the last instance; Why does Britain pour gasoline on the fire and actually want to attack the wing where Russia is strongest?

I think here, while everyone is focusing on a US-Russia monopoly, we are missing the other supporting players taking positions according to the changing world dynamics in the background.

The French president speaks of the Russian-European alliance, and more fundamentally develops a rhetoric called an independent Europe. Moreover, lately, he has been talking about the protection of French interests in Africa on a national scale, saying 'our future is in Africa'.

A force commander (withdrawn) in Germany talks about supporting Russia to balance China, and that strong Russia can be beneficial. The German state also indirectly prevents the military inventory of the Baltic states from being shifted to Ukraine.

Britain, on the other hand, is trying to detonate the mine between Russia and Europe. They sent thousands of ATGMs, which expiration date will expire in one year, to Ukraine with an international advertising campaign.

If Russia breaks up after defeat in Ukraine and heavy global sanctions, will it break up in favor of Britain? No. So will it work out in favor of Europe? No, on the contrary, the entire cost will go to Europe.

Again, which way is the UK foreign policy and security strategy heading as it diverges from the EU. Whose side are the globalists on?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This is why an all out war against the dollar should be a priority for the China-Russia-allies bloc.

You weaken the dollar’s hold over the world, you weaken their spending power on R&D, weapons, foreign aid, etc.

You need money to run an empire, lots of money. Dollar is empire money.

Digital yuan is the key to de-dollarisation.

The petrodollar was already dead, but the dollar hasn't collapsed yet, because it has pegged to China's producing 5-6 trillion merchandizes, which is 5-6 times bigger than the petrodollar, and it is keep growing.

The US cannot remove China's world factory status, so they have to keep their controlling grip on their vassal states, because China is now by far the biggest trading partner for those countries. If the US can keep controlling these countries, the dollar can keep pegging to China's 5-6 trillion worth of merchandizes annually.

That's why the US won't have the gut to decouple and to kick China out of SWIFT, because it gonna be suicidal for the dollar, and hurting them far more than hurting China.

China wanna find a perfect strategy, because a completely cornered US gonna launch a global nuclear war before it goes down.

 

[Beidou2020]

The petrodollar was already dead, but the dollar hasn't collapsed yet, because it has pegged to China's producing 5-6 trillion merchandizes, which is 5-6 times bigger than the petrodollar, and it is keep growing.

The US cannot remove China's world factory status, so they have to keep their controlling grip on their vassal states, because China is now by far the biggest trading partner for those countries. If the US can keep controlling these countries, the dollar can keep pegging to China's 5-6 trillion worth of merchandizes annually.

That's why the US won't have the gut to decouple and to kick China out of SWIFT, because it gonna be suicidal for the dollar, and hurting them far more than hurting China.

China wanna find a perfect strategy, because a completely corned US gonna launch a global nuclear war before it goes down.

Yes you’re correct. I think CPC want a slow de-dollarisation strategy to not be openly hostile to the empire. As you pointed out, if the empire is cornered and has nothing to lose, then it could cause destruction on a global scale. The empire is run by psychopaths, so even the most extreme scenarios are possible.

The cost of going to war with China must be raised to the absolute highest. Empire might be willing to go to war if the damages they sustain is limited.

This is why China need to rapidly develop the nuclear arsenal both in large number of warheads and advanced delivery capabilities (hypersonic missiles, stealth bomber). Only the destructive capability of nuclear weapons will be a deterrent to the empire. Conventional weapons are important but it can be overwhelmed and don’t have the destructive capability of nukes.

In an all-out-war, end-game scenario, nukes are the ultimate deterrent.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yes you’re correct. I think CPC want a slow de-dollarisation strategy to not be openly hostile to the empire. As you pointed out, if the empire is cornered and has nothing to lose, then it could cause destruction on a global scale. The empire is run by psychopaths, so even the most extreme scenarios are possible.

The cost of going to war with China must be raised to the absolute highest. Empire might be willing to go to war if the damages they sustain is limited.

This is why China need to rapidly develop the nuclear arsenal both in large number of warheads and advanced delivery capabilities (hypersonic missiles, stealth bomber). Only the destructive capability of nuclear weapons will be a deterrent to the empire. Conventional weapons are important but it can be overwhelmed and don’t have the destructive capability of nukes.

In an all-out-war, end-game scenario, nukes are the ultimate deterrent.

Yep, the petrodollar was the old vessel of the dollar, and it was already dead with so many oil producing countries like Russia, Iran, Venezuela are denying the dollar for transaction.

The new vessel of the dollar is the 6 trillion dollar worth of annual products made in China.

China now holds all the cards, and it can dethrone the dollar anytime, but trying to not corner them into triggering a nuclear war.

Made in China = lifeline support for the dollar

Sleepy Joe is incompetent, but he is not suicidally clueless like those trumpers.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Unfortunately for Vice-Admiral wishes of a Sino-Russian split may not happen they way he wishes for given what happened last time

Initially Russian policy after breakup of Soviet Union was to keep Han eyes off Siberia by means of tactical nukes

A PREVIEW OF RUSSIA'S NEW MILITARY DOCTRINE

5. (C) Zolotarev argued that, while the chances of a large-scale war breaking out are remote, China would most likely be the target of any preemptive nuclear strike. Most serious military planners dismissed any threat from NATO long ago, he posited. China still has a mass mobilization army, he said, and the Russian Far East is thinly populated, has little infrastructure, and a small Russian military contingent. With the Russian army restructured to rapidly respond to small-scale wars, the GOR would have to rely on its nuclear deterrent to prevent a Chinese attack. He admitted, however, that by declaring the right to launch a nuclear first strike, Russia appeared to be taking a step back from the spirit, if not the letter of its Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty Article VI commitments regarding nuclear disarmament.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09MOSCOW3138_a.html

But, today thanks to shrewd Putin and a slow-witted Xi. Putin has nicely cultivated Xi as geo-political meat shield against USA. Two Russian enemies wasting themselves at eachother is dream come true for them.

But in the next 2 decades Putin and Xi will be in their late 80s and too old to rule

Now if Putin gets replaced by a Yeltsin or Gorbachev intellectual equivalent and Xi replaced by someone who is little less Han

Chinese leadership will offer another 10 million Chinese women and jump back into the American camp like they did back in the 1970s

Mao offered 10m women for trade with US

1972 visit by Richard Nixon to China

Russia goes back to being enemy number 1 again for USA and alliance with Chinese will be hailed a major diplomatic victory

For India this will be back to cold war era time specifically the decade of 1970-80s where we had to face US+UK and China